Another voice calling for “Romanorum coetibus”

I have often written that the Church of England needs to issue their document Romanorum coetibus, by which they will give a safe-haven to catholic liberals who want to keep their large puppets and pottery, 60’s music and the ordination of women, prayer to the earthmothergoddess… all without the spirit-repressing domination of masculine Rome! And they can use whatever translation they want!

In the Guardian there was this recently:

Why be a liberal Catholic when you could be an Anglican?

What’s the appeal of Roman Catholicism to a fairly liberal person? Why don’t they jump ship? They say they dislike clerical celibacy, which they largely blame for the abuse scandals. Well, there’s a church close at hand that rejects it. They say they want to see the ordination of women. Well, there’s a church close at hand that ordains women (more or less). They say they dislike the church’s intransigence on homosexuality. Well, there’s a church close at hand that has an honest, messy debate about this issue. They say they dislike the church’s legalistic approach to birth control, abortion, and various other moral issues. Well, there’s a church close at hand that rejects such an approach. They say they dislike the church’s authoritarian structure, the monarchical aura of the papacy. Well, you know what.

Why do they stay in a church that is so full of things they dislike, when there is one close at hand that is more or less free of those objectionable things? Presumably they would reply: because, despite everything, the Roman church seems to us the authentic church, and the Anglican church does not. But there is a sector of Anglicanism whose style of worship is scarcely distinguishable from that of Roman Catholicism. Yes, they might reply, but the institution lacks authenticity: it was founded by a randy monarch, and remains confined by its national character. Fair point perhaps, but does it really outweigh the benefits of Anglicanism to a liberal believer? Is this really a reason to stay in an authoritarian, illiberal church – that at least it wasn’t founded by Henry VIII? The man had his faults but he wasn’t Satan.

So what’s Rome’s appeal to these people? Is it that they want the prestige of belonging to an exotically large, old tradition? Do they feel a sort of thrill to be connected with an institution that strikes their friends as baffling, mysterious, romantically gothic? Do they like seeing eyebrows raised at dinner parties, when they state their allegiance?

This might be a factor, but it misses the central point. It seems to me that the central appeal of Roman Catholicism is its bold insistence that Christianity must be embodied in culture. For Catholics, religion is not confined to a carefully demarcated sphere, or to the realm of individual faith: it must be holistic, public, all-embracing – it demands to be known as the meaning of cultural life. By contrast, Anglicanism seems to accept the marginalisation of religion, and seems to approve of liberal culture. Religion is a wonderfully rich bit of culture, Anglicanism seems to say, but it’s just one bit of culture; it knows its place. [It’s the state religion.  Of course it does.] No, says Catholicism: the place of religion is everywhere; its role is to be everything. [Isn’t it interesting that this is the same point that the National Schismatic Reporter made in griping about Pope Francis.  HERE.]

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Benedict XVI was the Pope of Christian Unity.

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Video of Francis and Benedict

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4Jyotq9PZg&feature=player_embedded

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aylAmChAaY&feature=player_embedded

 

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Two Popes meet and Fr. Z spots a good liturgical detail in the chapel

In the chapel where Benedict is hanging his zucchetto these days, and where he and Pope Francis prayed together, I noticed that the Cross is veiled in purple… probably since last Sunday, called 1st Passion Sunday in the older calendar.  The icon of Our Lady should have been veiled too, but that might have freaked out… some people.

No disrespect to Francis, but I had to put the arrow somewhere.

The Ordo for the Novus Ordo also indicates that images can be covered from the 5th Sunday of Lent onward.

 

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On a lighter note, Francis and Benedict … caption call!

"Is that my mail? Hey, thanks!"

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Francis with Benedict – photos

Some pics of the meeting of Pope Francis and Pope Benedict.

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After confessing, a young reader asked priest to use the proper form of absolution…

From a young reader:

I’m a teen going to a Catholic highschool in ____. I’m used to relaxed priests who bend the red and change the black. I usually am charitable and celebrate the basic validity of sacraments I receive from them. But today during our penance service, I confessed my sins before one of the priests, I had a lot of heavy stuff on me, mind you, and he gave GREAT advice to help in the future. I waited for absolution but instead got a totally custom prayer ending in the sign of the cross. Terrified that I just confessed my deep sins and wasn’t going to be able to receive communion the next day at mass, I remembered your advice that the laity have a right to have the sacraments said validly and licitly and to simply ask the priest to use the form. I asked in a soft voice and a smile for him to say the normal prayer and he obliged with no malice and gave me absolution.

I prayed to the Blessed Virgin Mary for this priest and all the people who will not get validly absolved by him. Please pray for him to. But thanks be to God for your counsel through this blog. Keep doing it because I would have never had the guts to ask something like that before reading it here.

My work here is done.

Everyone… GO TO CONFESSION!

You have the right to have the rite… the right rite, not a made up rite.  You can ask for the proper form of absolution.

Fathers, use the forms of sacraments as they are actually printed in the official books.  Reminder your brothers always to use the proper form of absolution.  Encourage them to hear confessions.

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Pope Francis visits Benedict XVI

From VIS:

HISTORIC MEETING: POPE FRANCIS TRAVELS TO CASTEL GANDOLFO TO MEET WITH BENEDICT XVI
Vatican City, 23 March 2013 (VIS) – At noon today, the Holy Father Francis travelled by helicopter to Castel Gandolfo to meet and have lunch with Pope emeritus Benedict XVI. Accompanying Benedict XVI to greet Pope Francis on his arrival were Bishop Marcello Semeraro of Albano, Italy, and Dr. Saverio Petrillo, director of the Pontifical Villas.
This is the first time that the Church is experiencing a meeting between the Pope and an Emeritus Pope. [Pope “Emeritus”, perhaps, though that term is to my mind… problematic.  Can we imagine that Boniface VIII didn’t have chat with Celestine?] Even though the two have spoken by telephone several times since Pope Francis’ election as the 266th Pope ten days ago, [“Hello? Yes, good afternoon Your Holiness, this is Francis. How are we today?”… pause… “Yes, Your Holiness.  I renewed my total obedience to Your…”.  “Yes, thank you dear friend.  Could you tell me… if it isn’t too much trouble… where did you leave the garage door opener?”] this is the first time that they are meeting face to face. Although live coverage of the historic event will not be provided, the Press Office of the Holy See has announced that there will be an official photo of the two together in the library of the Castel Gandolfo Apostolic Palace. (When available, the photo will be published on the VIS blogsite at: http://www.visnews-en.blogspot.it/)
After meeting privately and sharing lunch, the Holy Father Francis is scheduled to return to the Vatican this afternoon, again by helicopter.

Oh to be a fly on the wall!

I am listening to Vatican Radio live and coverage of the Pope’s visit to the former Pope.

More, if something interesting comes up.  There is no scheduled appearance of both Popes … together…. wow, that’s weird to write.

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“That’s not the way it is in the Church.”

A quote sent by a priest friend.

“In the state, for example, one day we have the Reagan administration, and the next day the Clinton administration, and whoever comes next always throws out what his predecessor did and said; we always begin again from scratch. That’s not the way it is in the Church.”

Joseph Ratzinger, Salt of the Earth: The Church at the End of the Millennium- An Interview With Peter Seewald (p. 189).

Continuity is key.

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The Way of the Cross – Joseph Ratzinger (Good Friday – 2005)

Here is my reading of the Via Crucis, the Way of the Cross, composed by Joseph Card. Ratzinger, once Pope, now His Holiness Benedict XVI, for the 2005 Good Friday observance at the Colosseum in Rome.

I love the St. Alphonsus Stations, but I think it would be a nice gesture in some parishes to use Papa Ratzinger’s Stations on Fridays this Lent.

The text is English, though I use Latin responses and prayers between the Stations.https://zuhlsdorf.computer/prayercazt/080318_stations_ratzinger.mp3

I appreciate the support you have given to me and to this blog.  This is a token of my esteem.

ALSO: Way of the Cross by St. Alphonsus Liguori (voice and with chant)

 

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Class Act: Pope Francis calls to cancel his newspaper delivery

There is an Italian proverb: Chi fa da sé fa per tre… Someone who does a thing for himself, is as good as three people doing it for him. You do the job when you want it done and better than people who aren’t invested in your task.

Moreover, there are somethings that you really should not task out.

The newly elected Pope went back to his pre-conclave digs, packed his bag, paid his bill…

Now I read at CNA:

Pope Francis surprised the owner of a kiosk in Buenos Aires with a telephone call to send his greetings and explain that he will no longer need a morning paper delivered each day.

Around 1:30 p.m. local time on March 18, Daniel Del Regno, the kiosk owner’s son, answered the phone and heard a voice say, “Hi Daniel, it’s Cardinal Jorge.”

He thought that maybe a friend who knew that the former Archbishop of Buenos Aires bought the newspaper from them every day was pulling a prank on him.

“Seriously, it’s Jorge Bergoglio, I’m calling you from Rome,” the Pope insisted.

“I was in shock, I broke down in tears and didn’t know what to say,” Del Regno told the Argentinean daily La Nacion. “He thanked me for delivering the paper all this time and sent best wishes to my family.”

Del Regno shared that when Cardinal Bergoglio left for Rome for the conclave, he asked him if he thought he would be elected Pope.

“He answered me, ‘That is too hot to touch. See you in 20 days, keep delivering the paper.’ And the rest is, well, history,” he said.

“I told him to take care and that I would miss him,” Del Regno continued. “I asked him if there would ever be the chance to see him here again. He said that for the time being that would be very difficult, but that he would always be with us.”

Before hanging up the phone, he added, the Pope asked him for his prayers.

Daniel’s father, Luis Del Regno, said they delivered the paper to the former cardinal’s residence every day.

On Sundays, he said, the cardinal “would come by the kiosk at 5:30 a.m. and buy La Nacion. He would chat with us for a few minutes and then take the bus to Lugano, where he would serve mate (tea) to young people and the sick.

Among the “thousands of anecdotes” the elder Del Regno remembers is one involving the rubber bands that he put around the newspapers to keep them from being blown away when they were delivered to the cardinal.

At the end of the month, he always brought them back to me. All 30 of them!

He said he gets goose bumps whenever he thinks about Pope Francis’ simplicity.

“In June he baptized my grandson, it was an amazing feeling,” Del Regno said. “I know what he’s like. He’s one of a kind.”

Class.

I am not on board with the jettisoning of meaning-laden symbols, but this sort of thing is, simply put, classy.

This story reinforces the impression I had of Card. Bergoglio when he would stay at our residence (the one he went back to after his election) and would sit and talk with the stable residents.  He was warm, affable, not talkative, but engaged and genuinely interested in you.  And he very much dressed down rather than up.  We can debate the merits of dress and the cardinalatial dignity, but … making the call himself to someone with whom he had that rapport… bring back the rubber bands from the paper to save money… classy.

I may have to start a new post category: Class Act!

On another note, however, I wonder if anyone reading from Argentina can tell us about the newspaper His Holiness chose to read: La Nacion.   Newspapers generally have cultural and political orientations.  What about La Nacion?

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