ASK FATHER: Home Chapel How To’s – consecrated chalice and paten? Wherein Fr. Z rants

I’ve been getting notes about, and seeing chatter about on the interwebs, people setting up home chapels just in  case.

I think it is good to have one anyway, not just in case.

In any event, while it is relatively easy to acquire the various accoutrement for Holy Mass in the Vetus Ordo (even easier for the Novus), it isn’t always easy to obtain a chalice and paten that are consecrated.

Remember: When some sacred object that isn’t in itself sacred (like a relic) it loses its consecration.   If a previously consecrated chalice is sold, it is “desecrated”, that is, it loses its consecration.  It doesn’t mean that it was defiled in a serious way as in misused.   When you regild (replate) a chalice or paten, it has to be reconsecrated.  If an altar is changed in a major way, e.g., previously fixed down or the mensa was detached for any reason, it must be reconsecrated. So, substantial changes or sales require reconsecration.

I think I have a solution for that.  If you are in a situation where the local bishop has refused to consecrate your chalice and paten with the older form in the Pontifical, you might drop me a line.

And I, frankly, don’t go for the line that all you have to do is use the chalice and paten once for it to be consecrated.   I hold an unconsecrated chalice used for Mass may thereafter be considered sanctified in some way but it is not consecrated. A chalice that is consecrated and then used for Mass is also sanctified. By consecration a chalice is formally, by special rites, set apart for a particular use.

“But Father! But Father!”, some of you are pewling. “This is just merciless nitpicking.  You are nitpicking merciless nitpicker!  You hate mercy and compassion and all those…. those… errrr… things that Pope Francis talks about … like… the Earth’s climate and fairness and … and you hate Vatican II!”

We have to make the distinction.  Qui distinguit bene docet.

And, quaeritur, why not consecrate the chalice with the special rite that Holy Church provides?  Why not?

I’ll tell you “why” since you are asking.

My I rant a little?

One exorcist I have had contact with suggested that multiple problems in the Church result from improper sacred liturgical worship.  Part of the problem is that things being used for Holy Mass (vestments, chalices, candles, linens, etc.) have not been duly consecrated.

What is consecration?

This world, as Jesus said, has its Prince.  The created realm fell in the fall of our First Parents and came under the domination of the Enemy.   Consecration rips things away from the Enemy and hands them over to God alone.  There are consecrated things, places and persons.  Harming them or using them wrongly is not just vandalism or assault or theft, etc.  It is also the sin of sacrilege.  Steal a consecrated chalice and, when you go to confession (if you are lucky) you have to confess not only the theft, but also the sacrilege.

It makes sense that everything used for sacred liturgy should be properly consecrated.

How is it that we lost sight of this?  It makes sense, right?   If I am not in a gulag, I want to do it right… with the right rite.  We are our rites!

Modernism has infected large swathes of the Church, including clergy.  Modernists (whether they know they are or not) reduce the supernatural to the natural (whether they know it or not).

Now think about what it means to say that we don’t have to, under normal circumstances, use blessed and consecrated things for Holy Mass.

Think about the ripple effect that has in the Church.

You might remember a school experience with a wave table, where you create waves of certain frequencies.  Then you create waves with a matching or harmonic frequency from another direction.  They cancel out.

That happens to priests too, by the way.  They get cancelled by priests and bishops who are going the opposite direction.  Believe me.  I know.

Thus endeth the rant.

UPDATE:

BONUS ROME SHOT:

Here is a shot of the late Card. Pell, re-consecrating my chalice from my ordination.  He passed away soon after.  I treasure the chalice and paten, consecrated by two great men, Card. Mayer and Card. Pell.

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Your Sunday Sermon Notes – 9th Sunday after Pentecost (N.O.: 16th) 2024

Too many people today are without good, strong preaching, to the detriment of all. Share the good stuff.

Was there a GOOD point made in the sermon you heard at your Mass of obligation for this 9th Sunday after Pentecost, or the 16th Sunday of Ordinary Time?

Tell about attendance especially for the Traditional Latin Mass.

Any local changes or (hopefully good) news?

A couple thoughts about the sign of the cross: HERE  A taste…

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On that Palm Sunday Jesus went to the Temple.  Surely people thought that he was going to take His role as the Davidic priest-king.  There He found the Courtyard of the Gentiles encroached with vendors of sacrificial animals and with moneychangers.  Coins with images couldn’t be used for sacrifices, so they had to be exchanged.  With a whip of cords the Lord drove them out, one of His motives being that the Gentiles were left with no place to worship the one true God.  Commenting on this dramatic moment, St. Jerome (+420) remarked that this was perhaps the Lord’s greatest miracle, considering their numbers and the way enemies were arrayed against Him.  St. Jerome opined that something of His divine authority must have shined forth in that moment which could not be withstood.

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Daily (Venice) Shot(s) 1083 – Feast of the Redeemer

On the third Sunday of July Venetians celebrated the “Feast of the Redeemer” with festivities and fireworks.  They commemorate the end of the terrible plague of 1576 that killed 50,000 people.  To ask for God intervention, in 1576 the Senate built a small wooden church on Giudecca island, the “Redeemer” Church. On 20 July 1577 they celebrated the end of the plague thanking Christ for the grace received.  To cross the Giudecca Canal and reach the Redeemer Church on foot, a bridge of barges was created. For 5 centuries the tradition has carried on and a temporary bridge is made.

A friend is in Venice and sent these. I think they didn’t build the bridge this year.

In chessy news, my guy Wesley So – great today – defeated Fabiano Caruana in the lower bracket of Division 1 to advance against, I think, Magnus who lost in the upper bracket to MVL.  I don’t know what Magnus was thinking: he played on a tablet… in Rapid.  In time trouble, there’s no way anyone can scramble fast enough on a tablet.  In fact in two games when he had a bad position and moving toward time trouble, he just resigned.  I wonder if his heart was in it.   He just had a loss with the death of his mother: R.I.P.  Today at 11 EST it’s Wesley v. Magnus (I hope he sticks to his tablet) and Jan-Krzysztof Duda v. Ian Nepomniachtchi. In the upper bracket we are pulling for MVL to give “Puer” a drubbing.

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Daily Rome Shot 1082 – Happy International Chess Day! CRAZY 9 move game!

CRAZY game yesterday in day 3 of the (mouthful alert!) Division I Winners Quarterfinal match in the CrunchLabs Masters 2024. “Puer” (aka Alireza Firouzja) stumbled into a NINE MOVE LOSS to Fabiano Caruana. The commentators, Rombert Hess and David Howell were musing about a possible line and then Puer did it! Watch this!

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I am off to OTB as soon as I can finish this.

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Interim, motus ad lusorem cum militibus albis pertinent. Scaccus mattus, scilicet mors regis, duobus in motis veniat.

NB: Detineam explicationes in crastinum, ne vestrae interrumpantur commentationes.

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WARNING PSA: I mentioned a few days ago that I had watched some videos of….

I mentioned a few days ago that I had watched some anti-scammer videos – scambaiters.  They are fascinating.  I am interested in these things right now, because I have started to receive scam emails.  They are so lame, but unwary people fall for them.  Also, someone close to me got scammed with a gift card refund ploy.

Today, I saw a video which said that in g**g** searches, the SPONSORED links at the top of the search can be FAKE links pretending to take you to big companies that scammers uses for their nefarious schemes.  Anyone can buy a sponsored link.  That’s what they do.   I have always avoided those, let’s say instinctively.  Instead, I always scroll down to where the sponsored links end.  THEN I go to the sites and go through log in procedures.   I always have two-factor authentication on.  I use super strong passwords like – and this is an example which is not a password to anything I have: Fs]WX<“{E<eZM_]$Y&K{.

There are even scams which target people who are selling goods online.  They contact to buy, and then send a FAKE paypal email saying they’ve sent the money and then get from you the FedEx tracking for your item.  The fact is, you were never paid, and they got your stuff… which they resell: pure profit.

Friends, if you have elderly family members and friends, TALK TO THEM.  Advise them about strong passwords.

For businesses, btw, FEDERATED has a strong password vault.  Contact them with questions.

Seriously.  I makes me SICK what I have seen online.  It made me furious when someone close to me was scammed, which inflicted terrible shame and guilt.  Thankfully, it was a fairly small scam.  Now that scammers are using the ploy of getting people to withdraw large amounts of cash and going to a cyber currency ATM and send it to their wallet… this is getting serious.  Also, now there are scammers who are imitating scambaiters!

You have to be CAREFUL.   Be alert  – gosh, I’m sorry to say this – if any person you talk to from “support” etc. has a strong non-American accent of any kind, a glancing swipe at correct English, and who seemed tunneled in on a script, telling you repeatedly to do certain things and saying not to pay attention to incoming calls.

Those safety points scratch the surface.

Looking out for you as I know you would look out for me.

 

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17 July – St. Vincent de Paul, confessor… and slave… really

Did you know that Vincent was once an arrogant climber who was ordained at 19 years old?

Did you know that St. Vincent de Paul was captured by pirates and sold into slavery for a couple of years? His last owner was a fallen Franciscan priest who had converted to Islam and had three wives. Vincent converted them and they got back to Europe.

Did you know that Vincent was also chaplain to Henry VI’s wife and a member of Louis XIII’s Privy Council… as was Card. Richelieu? The Cardinal in his finery and Vincent in his grubby cassock from off the street.

Today is the feast of the great St. Vincent de Paul.  Here is his entry in the Roman Martyrology, which really doesn’t say much about him:

Memoria sancti Vincentii de Paul, qui, spiritu sacerdotali plenus, Parisiis in Gallia pauperibus addictus, in facie qualiscumque dolentis vultum agnoscebat Domini sui; ad formam primitivae Ecclesiae instaurandam, clerum sancte formandum et pauperes sublevandos Congregationem Missionis instituit et, sancta Ludovica de Marillac cooperante, Congregationem etiam Puellarum a Caritate.

Here’s my 1st class relic of St. Vincent de Paul.

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Have any of you been affected by the CrowdStrike debacle?

Have any of you been affected by the CrowdStrike debacle?

So far, I have not been.  I’m glad I’m not travelling today and I really feel for those who are.  I read that hospitals have been affected.  May God protect the patients.

Meanwhile, one of the guys in a nerdy signal group I am in posted:

What could go wrong?

Perhaps the one who failed to check the update could get a placement with a detail for Pres. Trump.

Meanwhile….

FEDERATED!

UPDATE:

I priest friend wrote via Signal…

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Daily Rome Shot 1081 – Giving the shirt off my back!

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Meanwhile, from the Babylon Bee

Demon Kinda Bummed To Be Cast Out In English Instead Of The Traditional Latin

FARGO, ND – Local demon Asmodeus has been cast out of yet another church in rural North Dakota after terrorizing the church members for several weeks. Before spreading his charred wings to fly off to the next town, he complained to local reporters that exorcisms just aren’t the same since they started doing them in English instead of Latin.

“Ey there, ya nasty spirit,” began Father Okanoke in his heavy Fargo accent. “What tha heck ya doin’ around ‘ere? This ain’t the appropriate place to be, ya know? Oh geez – better get on out to the next town, ey? I’ll cast ya out, you betcha!”


As the priest held out a crucifix and recited his own folksy version of the incantation, the evil spirit shrugged and shuffled out to the door with his head down.

“Whatever – I’ve been cast out before. Same deal as always.” said the malevolent servant of the Prince of Darkness. “But seriously – what happened to tradition? What happened to respect for the beauty of the ancient rite of exorcism spoken in traditional Latin? English just isn’t the same, you know? Would it kill people to learn a little Latin? Good grief!”

According to sources, the demon will be moving to somewhere he’ll feel more welcome, like Washington D.C.

In chessy news, in the strangely named CrunchLabs Masters on day two Fabi, my guy Wesley, Nepo Jan-Krzysztof Duda, and Dmitry Andreikin advanced to Division 1. This is a 7 day event, with a bracket format in three divisions that would take too long too explain. Suffice to say that if you lose a match, you drop to a lower bracket where you can fight your way back to the upper. This is what Hikaru now faces.

White to move and mate in 2.

NB: I’ll hold comments with solutions ’till the next day so there won’t be “spoilers” for others.

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Meanwhile, the TLM with Archbp. Cordileone at the Eucharistic Congress is jam packed

I’m sure more reports will come in.  I am interested in the sermon, if there is one.

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Daily Rome Shot 1080 – Another book!

How unhinged is the left?

Nice people! Great service!

It’s hard to come up with words about that.

The Biel Chess Festival continues today in Switzerland with various tournaments.  Meanwhile, the strangely named CrunchLabs Masters is on. It’s is the third leg of the 2024 Champions Chess Tour. Magnus MVL and “Puer” are in Division 1. Levon, Hikaru, Fabi and Nepo are also in.  Of course I am glad to see that my guy Wesley So is in Division 1 because of his qualification from the chess.com Classic.  Format is 10+2.  Alas, on the live stream we are subjected to the cranium-etching voice of Tania Sachdev.  Someone needs to give her some sort of filter for her mic to cut down on the upper end.  Good commentary (when not just repeating what the person before said).  Also commenting is Daniel Naroditsky.

Black to move and mate in 4.


1. Nd3+ Kd1 2. Nxf2+ Kc1 3. Nd3+ Kb1 4. Qf1#
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I received a copy of a new book from Sophia Press.

One Lord, One Faith, One Church: An Inconvenient Truth by Jesse Romero and Paul Zucarelli

US HERE – UK HERE

The title trolls Al Gore!

The Introduction states that this book is written for people who have little if any, or even faulty, instruction in the faith. That’s a large target audience! They seek to show that the God initiated the Roman Catholic Church. The Church really is of divine origin… sorry!

I was struck that one of the first questions raised is “Who is Jesus?”

I am reminded of how my old pastor Msgr. Schuler, in view of the hideous St. Paul Seminary of the day and the feckless fruitless vocations efforts of the Archdiocese, made a speech to the local Serra club explaining that at the seminary and chancery they couldn’t answer three basic questions: “Who is Jesus? Who is the Church? Who is the priest?” They couldn’t easily get past the first one. So, how were they to foster vocations to the priesthood?

But I digress. That’s just to show how fundamental the question is.

Other questions are “Why is the Church in Rome?” and “Who is Peter?”

The rest of the book takes a mostly historical journey, well worth reviewing. Review… this is a good point. Even if you know this stuff already, it constitutes a good, dense, review.

This would be a good book for you friends or relatives (or YOU) who have fallen away from the Church into some Protestant sect.

There is nothing in it about the Novus and/or Vetus Ordo. There is very little about liturgy at all, expect for one significant phrase: “To understand the enormity of the Catholic Mass, one must understand that the heavenly liturgy and the earthly liturgy are one and the same.”

You wouldn’t know that from attended most suburban churches, although was you encounter would still affirm the Four Last Things, only differently.

UPDATE:

Many thanks to people who have already sent donations for my stay in Rome in October and into November. I haven’t started the main effort yet, but these thoughtful readers have already chipped in via “wavy flag” and Zelle. Thank you.

VF, JL, MR, DVDH, DC, LG, MMcM, MH, SB, PG, HL, MM, SAS

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