QUAERITUR: Should priests with effeminate manners work to correct them?

From a reader:

I hope you will not take this the wrong way but given certain sad realities of our time, do you think priests who are unusually effeminate in manner (e.g. speech) should work to minimize this aspect of their personality? Just the other day my wife’s friend told her she’s fairly certain her pastor is homosexual, but I have known of him for a number a years and am certain he is a holy, orthodox, priest. In fact, she also related how he alienated a good number of parishioners when he first came to their typically-liberal parish, which I take as a sign of his faithfulness.

Yes.

Alas, I think very few people have a clear understanding of their own quirks of manners and ways.  And this would be an extremely difficult, delicate, dangerous work of fraternal correction, for a priest friend or other to point out these traits.

This is also complicated by the fact that the entertainment industry has relentlessly tried to run down priests and the priesthood, to distort the very concept of priest in the minds of… well… everyone who watches movies and television.

But, yes.  I think a priest who comes to realize that people may be thinking he is homosexual because of his manners and traits of speech should undertake the arduous work to correct them.

I’ll leave the combox closed. People can email comments to me and I will consider them as it may be opportune.

UPDATE 14 Jan:

I’ll make it possible to post comments, but they will all be filtered through the moderation queue. I will probably release only a few, and those well-thought and not repetitive.

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Democrat Catholic Governor of Washington State now supports contrary to nature “marriage”

Over at CatholicVote I saw that yet another Catholic Democrat has abandoned her Catholic identity on what will be the bitterest, and eventually violent, issue of the war on morals and religion in the public square and attacks on the Catholic Church.

The Catholic Democrat Governor of the State of Washington has caved on “same-sex marriage”.

Washington state’s Governor Christine Gregoire, a Catholic and a Democrat, has been talking about her decision to support same-sex marriage marriage as a journey. “I’ve been on my own personal journey with this issue and I think the state has been as well,” she said in a recent interview with Seattle’s PBS station. You can watch the interview here: [A good example of what I call Sin by Struggle.  If you “Struggle” with something, you are exonerated when you go ahead and do what you know is wrong.]

A notable comment from Gregoire:

I’ve sorted out, for me, what was a religious barrier, [The operative word is probably “out”…] to come to understand [What wisdom will she reveal?] as a former attorney general now governor, and a religious person, that I can respect and honor the religious freedom of all the faiths in Washington state to decide whether they want to marry someone or not, but what I cannot accept and promote or tolerate is the state of Washington refusing to issue a license to a couple simply because of their sexual orientation … the journey is over for me, I feel better than I’ve felt in seven years, to be honest with you.  [Well… it’s all about how good you feel about yourself, Governor Gregoire.]

[…]

Gregoire’s journey included a conversation with Seattle Archbishop Peter Sartain, a conversation she called “very good, very respectful, and very appropriate.” Very interesting timing, too. That the chat took place the day before Gregoire’s announcement speaks volumes about its purpose. She wasn’t looking for input or help with discernment; it was an “FYI” call, and nothing more.

[She continues…] I have talked to the Archbishop, I called him the day before I made the announcement, and I’ve talked to my own priest. I have sorted my way through this. I can honor the religious beliefs of my faith [Note that she says “honor”, not “believe”.] and all faiths in Washington state, but as government, as the state, we cannot be in the business of discrimination. [She abandons natural law and her Faith and morphs this into a civil rights issue.]

Gregoire is either oblivious to her obligation as a Catholic holding public office, or she has performed some incredible feats of mental gymnastics to conclude that supporting same-sex marriage doesn’t defy her religious beliefs.

[…]

Read the rest of the vile business over there.

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“FREEEDOOOOOM!”

For the Just Too Cool file, I read on The History Blog that the only surviving documents connected to William Wallace are returning to Scotland.

Included is the Lübeck Letter and is the only surviving document we have that was written by William Wallace himself and it has his personal seal.

"FREEEDOOOOOM!"

Read more over there.

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Will the NeoCat liturgy obtain papal approval?

Sandro Magister reports:

“Placet” or “Non placet”? The wager of Carmen and Kiko

The founders of the Neocatechumenal Way aim to obtain definitive Vatican approval for their “convivial” way of celebrating the Mass. The document is ready. But it could be modified or blocked in extremis. The verdict on January 20

[…]

Read the rest there.

*sigh*

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D. El Paso and Fr. Rodriguez: Fr. Z makes a request.

A diligent reader offered me a text template for when some scandal or outrage takes place:

Everyone-

Yes, I know about _________________ [insert description of scandal or outrage at issue]. You can stop emailing me asking whether I have heard or read about it.

When [unfortunate/ unseemly/ scandalous/ dispiriting] news like this is made public, please remember that, at this time, we do not know all the facts. Until we know more facts about the situation, I think it is best not to comment.

In the meantime, I will be praying for all those involved. I suggest you do the same.

Please don’t send me email telling me that the Administrator of the Diocese of El Paso, Bp. Armando Ochoa is reported to be pursuing some kind of legal action against Fr. Michael Rodriguez, who took such a public stand about a moral issue with his local city council.

I know. I’ve already received several dozen notes about this.

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Nigeria: More Christians killed, probably by Islamist terrorist group Boko Haram

From CWN:

Gunmen kill 4 Nigerian Christians

Gunmen on the outskirts of Potiskum, a northeastern Nigerian city of 200,000, have killed four Christians who were fleeing the area in the wake of previous attacks. The Islamist terrorist group Boko Haram is suspected of carrying out the latest attack.

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QUAERITUR: Pastor says he can waive requirement of regularizing marital situation.

From a reader:

I am in the process of converting from the Anglican tradition to the
Catholic Church. The priest of the church where I am taking RCIA has told me that he has the pastoral prerogative to waive the requirement to regularize my marriage to a divorced man. I think this is incorrect, but how do I respectfully disagree with him without seeming priggish and ungrateful? I’m far from an expert on Canon law, but I feel that he is allowing me to sneak into the Church. I want to be
faithful and obedient, and I am not looking for loopholes. Am I being
overly-scrupulous, as my Catholic friends say? Should I start over
with RCIA in the other church in the parish, while simultaneously
submitting to the Tribunal? Or should I continue to attend Mass in
this church but tactfully say “I’m not ready to enter this Easter;
I’ll wait for a declaration of nullity before formal entry into the
Church”. I don’t want to come across as “holier than thou”, but my
conscience is troubled.

Your conscience is rightly troubled.  At the same time you are to be commended for wanting to do the right thing.

There is no “prerogative” that permits a priest to dispense from constitutive law (c. 86), and “one spouse at a time” is certainly constitutive of marriage!

I suggest that you make phone call to the diocesan tribunal and ask for a canonist. Don’t just talk about this with the receptionist.  State that you are planning on becoming Catholic, that your husband was married previously, and that your pastor informed you that he has the prerogative to waive the requirement of regularizing your marital situation.  Tell the canonist of the tribunal that you can’t find any evidence of that in your reading of canon law. That should be sufficient to get the ball rolling.

You are not being uppity to expect the pastor to abide by the law of the Church.

Your actions may also prevent other people – perhaps of less sensitive conscience as you – from being duped.

Be prepared for the possibility that your husband’s prior marriage may not be able to be declared null.

That would be a huge cross to bear, but the truth of the matter is worth knowing as you make your way home to the Catholic Church.

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Green ‘stations’ of the… earth?

Secularists will eventually make environmentalism a key component of their religion.

Do we have to help them? Even as we erode our own Catholic identity?

I read this on the site of the best Catholic weekly in the UK, The Catholic Herald.

Students visit green ‘stations’

Students at a school in West Yorkshire embark on a climate change walk designed with 11 “Stations of the Environment”

Over the past few years, students and staff from St Mary’s Catholic High School in Menston, West Yorkshire, have been involved in a project aiming to raise awareness about the effects of climate change on the world’s poorest people and the impact our lifestyles have on the environment.

To help the campaign, Francis McCrickard of the Myddelton Grange team and Shelagh Fawcett, co-ordinator of Leeds diocese Justice and Peace Commission, came up with the idea of a climate change walk of “Stations of the Environment” about the land surrounding Myddelton Grange Centre.

The result is 11 “stations”, or stopping points, each with a beautifully designed board containing local and global information as well as spiritual reflections. The walk takes people not only on a journey through the extensive woodland and farmland of Myddelton but also on a much deeper journey. Each station gives information about its location but also makes connections with the global reality of climate change and invites a spiritual reflection.

St Mary’s pupils and staff have been involved in the project from the outset. Commenting on the student involvement Shelagh Fawcett said: “It is great to see our young people so passionate about creating a more just world and to witness their creativity in encouraging us all to recognise what we can do to make a difference.”

The climate change walk was officially opened by Kris Hopkins, MP for Keighley and Ilkley, who said: “It was a wonderful privilege to be asked to officially open the walk. The fact that more than 8,000 trees have been planted thus far is a remarkable achievement. They will serve as a great legacy for generations to come and, of course, have a positive impact on the local environment. It was particularly fitting that the opening was timed to coincide with the UN Climate Change Conference in Durban. I am proud that the current Government has committed itself to supporting international development at levels greater than any of its predecessors and, working alongside agencies such as Cafod, much good work is being done.

“I look forward to visiting the walk again in the future and would like to congratulate everyone at Myddelton Grange for what they have achieved.”

It seems to me that using the model of “Stations of the Cross” this was introduces a confusing element in our Catholic identity.

Am I wrong?

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Wherein the reader is directed to click a link and be edified.

A reader forwarded me something which was forwarded to him which was reposted by NLM which was from the St. Louis Dispatch, about a church renovation Memphis… Tennessee, not Egypt.

Apart from obvious merits of my sender, or the esteemed talents of his sender, or the praiseworthy characteristics of NLM or the professional achievements of the paper, the curiosity this startling news should arouse in you will be rewarded, should you determine that the aforementioned article is not to be bypassed in favour of any other pressing though ephemeral distraction, with the reading of a succinct paragraph which includes an unlikely triplet of words that could only have been penned by one such as that bicentenarian wordsmith Charles Dickens, perhaps as the introductory title of a chapter:

The pastor, Msgr. John McArthur was very instrumental in the redesign. Victor Buchholz, of the firm of Looney Ricks Kiss in Memphis, was the principal architect.

Believe me when I say that I remain, dear readers, your most humble, devoted, etc.

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SCOTUS unanimous decision upholding religious liberty, “ministerial exception”

My mind returns to the moment in Pres. Obama’s State of the Union Address when he chose to scold the Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States, while they sat and, from decorum and custom, could do nothing to respond.
SCOTUS Supreme Court of the United States

For those of you who are closely following the presidential campaigns, I would remind you of a major point of consideration apart from jobs and the economy:

JUDGES.

On the site of the NYT we find some good news for a change concerning the US Supreme Court and religious liberty:

Justices Grant Leeway to Churches in Job Bias Laws
By ADAM LIPTAK
Published: January 11, 2012

WASHINGTON — In a major religious liberty decision, the Supreme Court for the first time recognized a “ministerial exception” to employment discrimination laws, saying that churches and other religious groups must be free to choose their leaders without government interference.

“The interest of society in the enforcement of employment discrimination statutes is undoubtedly important,” Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. wrote for a unanimous court. [UNANIMOUS!] “But so too is the interest of religious groups in choosing who will preach their beliefs, teach their faith, and carry out their mission.”

The decision gave only limited guidance about how courts should decide who counts as a minister, saying the court was “reluctant to adopt a rigid formula.” Two concurring opinions offered contrasting proposals.  [This is important.  There are shifting tides and sand bars in the matter of how civil courts adjudicate in matters that also concern canon law.  Generally courts don’t want to get involved with internal matters, but times and judicial practices shift around over time.  Card. Burke has done us a real service in sponsoring workshops for canonists and civil lawyers on the interplay of both kinds of law.]

The case, Hosanna-Tabor Church v. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, No. 10-553, was brought by Cheryl Perich, who had been a teacher at a school in Redford, Mich., that was part of the Lutheran-Church Missouri Synod, the second largest Lutheran denomination in the United States. Ms. Perich said she was fired for pursuing an employment-discrimination claim based on a disability, narcolepsy.

Ms. Perich had taught mostly secular subjects but also taught religion classes and attended chapel with her class.

“It is true that her religious duties consumed only 45 minutes of each workday,” Chief Justice Roberts wrote, “and that the rest of her day was devoted to teaching secular subjects.”

“The issue before us, however, is not one that can be resolved with a stopwatch,” he wrote. [NB.]

Instead, the court looked to several factors. Ms. Perich was a “called” teacher who had completed religious training and whom the school considered a minister. She was fired, the school said, for violating religious doctrine by pursuing litigation rather than trying to resolve her dispute within the church.

Chief Justice Roberts devoted several pages of his opinion to a history of religious freedom in Britain and the United States, concluding that an animating principle behind the First Amendment’s religious liberty clauses was to prohibit government interference in the internal affairs of religious groups generally and in their selection of their leaders in particular.

“The Establishment Clause prevents the government from appointing ministers,” he wrote, “and the Free Exercise Clause prevents it from interfering with the freedom of religious groups to select their own.”

[ENTER STAGE LEFT…] The Obama administration had told the justices that their analysis of Ms. Perich’s case should be essentially the same whether she had been employed by a church, a labor union, a social club or any other groups with free-association rights under the First Amendment. That position received withering criticism when the case was argued in October, and it was soundly rejected in Wednesday’s decision. [The best news I have heard in a while.  The Obama administration is trying to undermine religious liberty.  They are pushing “freedom of worship” rather than “freedom of religion”.]

“That result is hard to square with the text of the First Amendment itself, which gives special solicitude to the rights of religious organizations,” Chief Justice Roberts wrote. “We cannot accept the remarkable view that the religion clauses have nothing to say about a religious organization’s freedom to select its own ministers.” [Do I hear an “Amen!” brothers and sisters?]

Requiring Ms. Perich to be reinstated “would have plainly violated the church’s freedom,” Chief Justice Roberts wrote. And so would awarding her and her lawyers money, he went on, as that “would operate as a penalty on the church for terminating an unwanted minister.”

Unanimous decision.

I repeat.

Unanimous decision.

Remember this?

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