Small groups as a method of controlling the agenda

I’ll wager that in the readership there are people who are experts on how to hold meetings, how to control the message and direction of meetings, changing minds, creating consensus, etc.    I’ve only read a little about it.  However, I did grow up in Minnesota which has a caucus system for elections.    You learn early that breaking people into small groups into which you have inserted a committed leader who can wear down opposition is key.   There have to be full-koolaid-slaked agents on deck who can – let’s mix the metaphors even more – nip things in the bud.

Why do I bring this up?   This popped into my head as I saw a few picture which have emerged from the Synod on Synodality (“Walking Together on Walking Togetherity”).

A closer view…

Questions come to mind.

First, how much did all that tech cost?!?  That array is at every table?   Isn’t this somehow, along with all the hot air, harmful to the environment?  How much fossil fuel is used to run this stuff?

Next, what sort of massively ponderous process is involved here?   Actually, it doesn’t matter, does it.  It’s all worked out.

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4 October 2023… what a day!

This is the anniversary the demonic idol worship in the Vatican Gardens.  It was 2019…

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Sursum podices!

In another post, I suggest several days of penance and reparation for this and the placement of a idol bowl on the altar of St. Peter’s on 7 Oct 2023.   Please, everyone.

About the opening of “W-T” about “W-T”, be sure to read Robert Royal at The Catholic Thing.

For example:

The deepest question behind all these specific questions remains: What is Synodality? The philosopher Stefano Fontana, speaking at the same conference with Cardinal Burke and our Fr. Gerald Murray yesterday evening in Rome, put forward the thesis that the goal is a Church perpetually in Synodality. That nothing will remain solid; everything will be in constant process of revision to respond to the “times.”

“Synodality,” then, by its nature cannot be defined, not even in the sense of being ambiguous. It will turn the Church into an institution that does not defend and promote the teachings of its Founder, Jesus Christ. A “synodal” Church, which the current pope seeks, will not only be in motion this month and next year, but perpetually. No one today can say what it really means, because it will be in perpetual self-definition.

This is also the day that the new Apostolic Exhortation (Laudato sì 2.0) called Laudate Deum is out, about climate change.  I had it about a week ago and found it tedious and bullying.

For example,

5. Despite all attempts to deny, conceal, gloss over or relativize the issue, the signs of climate change are here and increasingly evident. No one can ignore the fact that in recent years we have witnessed extreme weather phenomena,…. Nonetheless, it is verifiable that specific climate changes provoked by humanity are notably heightening the probability of extreme phenomena that are increasingly frequent and intense.

11. It is no longer possible to doubt the human – “anthropic” – origin of climate change.

[…]

14. I feel obliged to make these clarifications, which may appear obvious, because of certain dismissive and scarcely reasonable opinions that I encounter, even within the Catholic Church. Yet we can no longer doubt that the reason for the unusual rapidity of these dangerous changes is a fact that cannot be concealed: the enormous novelties that have to do with unchecked human intervention on nature in the past two centuries.

[…]

And this.  Really?

72. If we consider that emissions per individual in the United States are about two times greater than those of individuals living in China, and about seven times greater than the average of the poorest countries,we can state that a broad change in the irresponsible lifestyle connected with the Western model would have a significant long-term impact. As a result, along with indispensable political decisions, we would be making progress along the way to genuine care for one another.

Americans are to blame.  Thank heavens for the Chinese.

And even to doubt the “anthropic origin” of climate change is now double-plus ungood wrong think.

In other news, the Bollettino today indicates that the newly-minted Card. Fernandez, distinguished author, has been appointed as a member of Catholic Education.  If I am not mistaken it was the Congregation for Education that blocked Fernandez from heading up the Catholic University in Argentina waaaay back in the time of Benedict XVI.  A little irony for your Wednesday.

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4-7 October: Pachamama Atonement Days – ACTION ITEMS!

It’s the anniversary of the demonic pagan worship in the Vatican Gardens (4 Oct).  The demonic bowl was placed on the main altar of St. Peter’s Basilica on 7 Oct.

As a priest friend of mine wrote about “atonement” days.

“Kinda like Ember Days, only not.”

Three things.

I invite you to perform some penitential work each day, 4-7 October, in addition to those others you are already doing for the opening of “Walking Together” (“W-T”), which are probably in addition to several others you may have taken on for what’s going on right now.

Dear readers, please.  Daily Rosary right now.  If you are not in the practice, DO IT.  We need you.   Please.  One chaplet daily.

And GO TO CONFESSION!

 

 

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Conference in Rome on “The Synodal Tower of Babel” the day before “Walking Together on Walking Togetherity”

For years the Italian (and English) site La Nuova Bussola Quotidiana has been a daily go to. Last night they held a “launch” event at a Roman theatre very near to the place where the “Walking Togetherity” will commence. This was the launch of a new paper monthly. for the launch they had three speakers: my good friend Fr. Gerald Murray (who needs no intro), Stefano Fontana of the Cardinal Van Thuan Observatory, and Raymond Card. Burke (whom I believe you know).

The constant typing of “Walking Together on Walking Togetherity” is a little tedious.  I might start to abbreviate.  “W-T”, perhaps.  The longer form about “walking togetherity” implies a kind of “fraternal” – too sexist? – quality, or direction, which in this case is “forward” – no backwardism here.  It implies the unity of spirit that is found in “friendship”.  Maybe we can sometimes abbreviate the “Walking Together on Walking Togetherity” as “W-T-…”.

There were lots of press.   In the audience I saw all sorts of familiar faces, Joan Lewis, Phil Pullela, Sandro Magister.  I suspect that the smarmy guys from the Pill and Fishwrap were there.

Lots of photo and video media lined up in the back.   Robert Card. Sarah was present.

The conference title was “The Synodal Tower of Babylon”, both because of the confusion of languages and also because of the human-centered nature of the topics and process.

Fr. Murray touched on an important point.   This is supposed to be a Synod (“W-T”) of Bishops, right?   But through some machinations, that do not follow the proper course of liceity, now there are any number of lay people who can VOTE along with bishops.   Fr. Murray talked about how the structure of the Synod (“W-T”) is described by documents.  There were not published any changes that would have altered the structure of the Synod (“W-T”).  It seem that the whole thing could be illegal.

Stefano Fontana, Director of the Cardinal Van Thuan Observatory, addressed the “Hegelian” character of the Synod (“W-T”).  The content of its proceedings can be known only from what it doing.

Card. Burke’s talk in Italian is HERE.

A good point here:

Synodality, an abstract term, is a neologism in the doctrine on the Church. It is well known that the Second Vatican Council wanted to avoid the abstract terms of conciliarity and collegiality, which are not found in the conciliar texts. It is to be assumed that the Council itself would have wanted to avoid an abstract term such as synodality, if it had known it.

In another moment, talking about support structures which assist the Roman Pontiff, especially the Roman Curia, he pointed out that the word “Dicastery” as a generic term, doesn’t sufficiently reflect what should be the hierarchical relationship that the once-“Congregation” should have.  Also, and this was something very serious and noted at the time of the changes to the Curia, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith ought to be placed in the FIRST place.  In fact, I add, it was called “La Suprema” for a reason: its critical importance for the stability and good of the people of God and the salvation of souls.

Burke with my emphases:

It is frequently said that the insistence on the synodality of the Church is nothing other than recovering an ecclesial characteristic always observed by the Eastern Church. I have regular contact with Eastern bishops and priests, both Catholic and Orthodox: they all told me that the way the Synod is organized has nothing to do with Eastern synods. This applies not only to the place of lay people in these assemblies, but also more generally to the way they operate and even the issues they address. There is confusion around the term synodality, which is artificially attempted to be linked to an Eastern practice, but which in reality has all the characteristics of a recent invention, especially as regards lay people.

Such a change in the self-understanding of the Church has as a further consequence a weakening of the teaching on morals, as well as discipline in the Church. I won’t dwell much on these points, which are dramatically known to everyone: moral theology has lost all its points of reference. It is urgent to consider the moral act in its totality, and not only in its subjective aspect. The thirtieth anniversary of the publication of Veritatis Splendor can help us with this. I welcome and encourage the initiatives I have seen on this issue. The commandments of the Decalogue are valid and will remain valid as they have always been in every age, simply because they are inherent in human nature.

Toward the end, Card. Burke touched on criticisms of himself and others who have dared to ask any questions.  He mentioned an article in which some member of the “W-T-F” said:

“We are very sorry, the times of the Church are not those of these brothers! They cannot dictate the Pope’s agenda, also causing wounds and undermining unity in the Church. But we’re used to it by now: they just want to hit Francesco.”

This is where Card. Burke showed anger.  What was said by that “W-T” nitwit is as rash as it is blinkered.    The Dubia submitted have to do with the discipline of the Church and with her doctrine, not the person of Francis.   Burke also brought up how Card. Fernandez of “DDF” settled himself in that interview with Edward Pentin on “the doctrine of the Pope” as if the Pope has a “living and active gift” of determining doctrine for the Church, which has never been the Church’s position, as if Popes can make up doctrine and it must therefore be the Church’s from that point onward.

There was a lot more, over the two hours of talks.  Anyway, here are three of my good friends, Fr. Sirico, Robert Royal, and Fr. Murray.  It was a pleasure to see them again.

The walk home on the Via Giulia.

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Fr. Thomas G. Weinandy follows up on his essay four years ago: “Pope Francis and Schism”

I’m still disappointed and annoyed at Fr. Thomas G. Weinandy, OFM, Cap., for the inexplicable and, frankly, ignorant attack on the Traditional Latin Mass some time back, together with two other writers who ought to know better. Many of us still scratch our heads over that. What was the motive? Pressure? Desire to curry favor? It couldn’t have been real knowledge about the issue. Anyway, their attack was completely refuted. Best to leave it behind.

That said, Weinandy has a piece today at The Catholic Thing. In effect, he retraces his steps to 2019 when he wrote a piece called “Pope Francis and Schism”, wherein he predicted dire things for the future and made a statement which surely got him into trouble… (is that why he wrote that attack?)… with the powers that be. Weinandy suggested that Francis was in schism with himself, since he is out of synch with what popes do.

Now, before the “Walking Togetherity” about to slither on its pre-determined way, Weinandy extends his remarks. First he reviews. However he adds this about Americans, whom Francis seems to dislike in general and comment on in sweeping terms of rash judgement.

First, Pope Francis’ dislike for and criticisms of the Catholic Church in the United States have intensified. As I noted in the earlier column, the American Catholic Church is the foremost critic of Francis’ often theologically ambiguous statements. Over the past four years, as Francis’ ambiguities have proliferated, often given in mid-flight and off-the-cuff, so has criticism of his statements and ecclesial policies mounted.

This ever-growing critical response, from multiple outlets and spokespersons, comes not so much from the American clergy, but from the American Catholic laity. In no other country is there such an educated laity, men and women who are faithful to the Church, as in the United States. Francis has found it impossible to respond to this theological and philosophical challenge from American lay Catholics – other than by calling them rigid and backward-looking.

But the American Catholic laity have not been, are not now, and will not in the future be bullied into silence. Such verbal ridicule is merely a sign that this pontificate is not intellectually prepared to engage the issues, and so has already lost the scholarly battle.

This is a good insight.  I like the use of the word “bullied”.

It is interesting that Benedict XVI very much liked Americans and how the American Church had worked within a secular society.

The piece is short.  Go read it.

Finally, this book pertains to the attempt by some to build up the Council by bashing tradition.

Illusions of Reform – Responses to Cavadini, Healy, and Weinandy: in defense of the Traditional Mass and the the faithful who attend it.

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ROME 23/10 – Day 03: Consolations and lots of tomatoes

In the Eternal City today, where there are many wonders and many woes, the sun rose after my egress to church at 07:07 and it will set, upon even more woes, as 18:53. The Ave Maria bell, in a well ordered Vatican should ring at 19:00… but it won’t.

Half destroyed by the trip over the last couple of days, I hit the rack really early and rose punctually at 0400.   With a couple of hours before even thinking about heading to church I got some office said and wrote the post about the Dubia that Card. Duka submitted about Communion for the divorced and remarried.

Heading off for Mass.

It’s going to be pretty dark by the time I get to the end of my time here.

I can’t easily express what a consolation it was to be back in my familiar place, in this good rhythm and with these wonderful people.  At a certain point in Mass, the “Memento of the Living” at which I remembered all my Roman donors in particular, my throat sort of closed up, and it wasn’t in anaphylactic shock.

It was especially poignant because it is the Feast in the Vetus Ordo calendar of St. Thérèse de Lisieux, who has over the decades been so good to me at key moments.

After Mass and more office, I stopped at a side altar and prayed this in regard to the circus about to begin in Rome.

Breakfast with a friend.

In the Campo there’s always so much to please the eye.   I bought some things at my regular stand.  It’s nice that after all this time we are familiar enough that they can pull my leg a bit.  (This isn’t my regular stand, by the way.)

For you who sent donations mentioning flowers I went to Pippo and got some tulips last night and a white rose this morning in honor of St. Thérèse.

If you earmark a donation for flowers, I’ll use it on flowers or, in absence of empty vases (few) on groceries.

I suspect St. Thérèse might be working on me right now which is both comforting and concerning.   Last August, when I was in Lacrosse for a conference at the Shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe, I ordered a reproduction of the altar painting of St. Thérèse in the Basilica.  I have already those of Miguel Pro and Maria Goretti.   The last I will get will be St. Gianna Molla.  Anyway, it didn’t come and didn’t come and so I called and inquired.   It had to be made and sent from the maker.   It didn’t come and didn’t come.  It arrived the night before I started the first leg of this trip.  Now, my first full day and a beautiful one at that, is her feast.   I stopped thinking that these sorts of “coincidences” were coincidences a long time ago.

St. Thérèse, please intercede for all the priests who will read this today and in days to come.  Thank you for your interventions in times past.  Thank you for what you may be up to now, whatever it is. Keep it up. I need it.

Perhaps more Rome stuff later.

Meanwhile, white to move and mate in 2.

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But WAIT! There’s MORE! Card. Duka of Prague sent DUBIA about Communion for the divorced and remarried. RESPONDED!

The Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, under the new leadership of now-Card. Fernandez, responded to a series of Dubia sent in by Dominik Card. Duka, OP, of Prague on 13 July 2023 about administration of Holy Communion to the divorced and remarried.

The responses in PDF, in Italian, Documento PDF.

This is signed off on by Francis, dated, 25 September 2023.

There is an interesting note at the beginning about how the DDF thought the QUESTIONS were not sufficiently clear.  So they redid them!

Here’s an extreme NUTSHELL summary, not intended to be exhaustive.   I’m sure a full English translation will come out, which will leave people equally confused and in need of explanations.  Boiled down…

  1. Can a diocese establish a different practice from that of the conference?   Priests make up their own minds.  Maybe diocese can have a  policy to help them.
  2. Is the response of the bishops of Argentina, now in the ACTA considered Ordinary Magisterium?  It’s “velut Magisterium authenticum”… “like… as if”.
  3.  Is a decision of the ordinary Magisterium of the Church based on the document Amoris Laetitiae?   Francis said that couples should live in full continence, but if that’s hard in certain cases, after adequate discernment, they can be given Communion.
  4. Is Amoris to institutionalize this solution through a permission or an official decision for individual couples?  They refer to the Argentinian bishops.   Also, Amoris speaks of attenuation of culpability.
  5. Who has to make decisions about couples like this?  Each individual person.  All priests must accompany people in their discernment.
  6. Would it be opportune for these cases to be treated by a tribunal?   Mitis Iudex simplified the process for processes.  But in cases where there is not a declaration of nullity, there is a process of personal discernment.
  7. Should this principle be applied to both parties of a civilly divorced marriage, or distinguish the degree of fault and proceed accordingly?   More discernment.
  8. What about an individual in one of these marriages?  People have to examine their consciences.
  9. Shouldn’t this whole thing be better explained by competent authority (DDF)?  Nope.  The response of the Argentinian bishops is enough.
  10. How to go forward in unity in the Church but also to not make the Magisterium confused?  Maybe local conferences of bishops can establish minimum criteria.

 

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ROME 23/10 – Day 01-02: On the ground and in my digs

I did not see the sun rise or set on the 1st, which would have been the 1st day of my Roman Sojourn.  Thanks to Delta my arrival was delay by a day… a Sunday lost.   This morning the sun rose at 07:06 and it is setting now 18:53.  The Ave Maria bell ought to ring at 19:00.

The airport was not very busy at customs.  I basically walked through with no lines or waiting.   Luggage came quickly.  The taxi line was rather long.

A view of the church where I was ordained, and no woman will ever be ordained, a deacon.

On the ground and with my things at the apartment, I hit the street briefly for a few things, including fixin’s for caprese.

Can’t beat this mozzarella.  The tomato was spectacular.

I’m pretty beat, so I will keep this on the short side.  Hopefully tomorrow I shall spring forth bright-eyed for the Holy Mass to say in the early hours of a lovely Roman day.

Meanwhile, Black to move.

NB: I’ll hold comments with solutions ’till the next day so there won’t be “spoilers” for others.

 

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New “DUBIA” Submitted to Francis about the Synodality (“walking togetherity”), same-sex blessings, ordination of women, shifting doctrine

UPDATE: See below….


New “dubia”, technical questions, have been submitted to Francis by FIVE cardinals, two of them the previous “Dubia Brothers”.

Cardinal Burke’s site: HERE

I predicted this last August. I was also sure about four of the signatories, but one I didn’t guess.

  • Walter Cardinal Brandmüller
  • Raymond Leo Cardinal Burke
  • Juan Cardinal Sandoval Íñiguez
  • Robert Cardinal Sarah
  • Joseph Cardinal Zen Ze-kiun

It is VERY IMPORTANT that Card. Zen signed this.

What happened. The submitted dubia to Francis on 10 July 2023. Francis responded – no – answered on 11 July 2023! Francis did not respond clearly to the questions. They submitted reformulated dubia on 21 August 2023. The reformulated dubia can be answered with a simple “yes” or “not”.

They have not received an answer or responses from Francis.

Therefore, the new Dubia Cardinals are making their dubia public.

Notification to Christ’s Faithful (can. 212 § 3) Regarding Dubia Submitted to Pope Francis

Brothers and Sisters in Christ,

We, members of the Sacred College of Cardinals, in accord with the duty of all the faithful “to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church” (can. 212 § 3) and, above all, in accord with the responsibility of Cardinals “to assist the Roman Pontiff … individually … especially in the daily care of the universal Church” (can. 349), in view of various declarations of highly-placed Prelates, pertaining to the celebration of the next Synod of Bishops, that are openly contrary to the constant doctrine and discipline of the Church, and that have generated and continue to generate great confusion and the falling into error among the faithful and other persons of good will, have manifested our deepest concern to the Roman Pontiff. By our letter of July 10, 2023, employing the proven practice of the submission of dubia [questions] to a superior to provide the superior the occasion to make clear, by his responsa [responses], the doctrine and discipline of the Church, we have submitted five dubia to Pope Francis, a copy of which is attached. By his letter of July 11, 2023, Pope Francis responded to our letter.

Having studied his letter which did not follow the practice of responsa ad dubia [responses to questions], we reformulated the dubia to elicit a clear response based on the perennial doctrine and discipline of the Church. By our letter of August 21, 2023, we submitted the reformulated dubia, a copy of which is attached, to the Roman Pontiff. Up to the present, we have not received a response to the reformulated dubia.

Given the gravity of the matter of the dubia, especially in view of the imminent session of the Synod of Bishops, we judge it our duty to inform you, the faithful (can. 212 § 3), so that you may not be subject to confusion, error, and discouragement but rather may pray for the universal Church and, in particular, the Roman Pontiff, that the Gospel may be taught ever more clearly and followed ever more faithfully.

Yours in Christ,

THE SIGNATORIES

Here’s the FIRST SET from July:  HERE

Here’s the SECOND SET from August: HERE


UPDATE:

And the non answers to the first round of Dubia before reformulation.

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ROME 23/10 – Day -00: 18th Sunday after Pentecost

I’m NOT in Rome, although I should be.   My flight was cancelled after midnight, stranding hundreds in the airport, scrambling to rebook, searching someplace to stay, a ride.  It was horrible.

So…

Here’s a pic from last year…

This image of Mary is in my neighborhood where I ought to be walking today.   It is good to have Mary before our eyes today because, historically the 1st Sunday of October was dedicated to Our Lady of the Rosary, following up on the earlier Feast of Our Lady of Victory instituted by Pius V for the perpetual memory of the Battle of Lepanto.   Since then the calendar has shifted around a bit.   Fr. Hunwicke – pray for him and for his better health! – has a grand post about this.  HERE

Meanwhile, I am angrily disappointed.   And not just at the airline for what they did to us last night.   Alas, I had the misfortune to read an advance copy of the new, soon-to-be-released Laudato si 2.o entitled Laude Deum.    Frankly, I don’t know why I am disappointed.  As that beatitude that didn’t make it into Matthew’s list says, “Beati qui non expectant quia non disappointabuntur.”    

The document is…  well, it sums up with an attack on Americans and praise of China in regard to “emissions” that are – and apparently there is no longer any discussion or doubt to be permitted – killing the planet.  And it’s almost too late!

Brace yourselves.   All this and “Walking together about walking togetherity”.

Can you imagine how unctuous the daily communiques will be from the papalotrous left?

Let’s stay frosty.

Here’s a puzzle.  White to move.  Mate in 2.

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UPDATE

I understand that there was drama at the Catholic Identity Conference. Archbp Viganò was scheduled to speak via video but they cancelled his talk because – as it appears on his website – he was going to state that Francis is not the pope. I read it. Whew.

Pray for the Church my dear friends. Take on some penance.

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