ASK FATHER: Good sources for chapel veils, mantillas

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

Father – back in 2009, you posted asking for help finding high-quality chapel veils.  Most, if not all of the suggested businesses listed in the answers are closed up, (sad).  Could you post the question again, as I imagine there are new veil-making businesses popping up all the time now with the resurgence of the TLM (happy!).

This is a good question!  Anyone?

Now that the TLM will be under attack or suppressed in some places, I had a little moment of Schadenfreude, picturing the consternation of lib priests and bishops as more and more women started wearing chapel veils and saying the Rosary (the usual accusation) in their Novus Ordo Masses.

¡Hagan lío!

BTW… we should explore St. Paul on the veiling of women’s hair sometime.  There are some pretty deep elements.

 

 

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3 Sept – Feast of St. Phoebe, Non-Deacon

Today there is fervent celebration of the great St. Phoebe, of Romans 16.  She was apparently a wealthy woman of Cenchreae (near Corinth), a friend and supporter (prostatis) of Paul (he had several female patronesses), a “servant” (diakonos – note that the word in masculine form can apply to either sex), and probably Paul’s FedEx guy to Rome with his Letter.

The fervent supporters of the ordination of women – and let’s never pretend that they don’t want ordination to the priesthood no matter how they protest that it’s just about diaconate – claim that this wonderful woman was a sacramentally ordained deacon because Paul uses the word diakonos for her.   They make the entirely unsubstantiated claim that she didn’t just “serve” the Church around Corinth, but she also “preached”, thus making her the equivalent of a real deacon, such as Stephen or Philip.   There isn’t any good reason to connect to Phoebe of Cenchreae to what Paul wrote to Timothy about women (gunaikas) having to be “likewise” worthy as the men should be for diaconal ministry.  All that means is that they shouldn’t be intemperate and or “malicious talkers”, etc.  So, too, Paul would say of everyone.

St. Phoebe is one of those shadowy figures in the New Testament about whom we know far too little.  She is still properly to be venerated as a saint, according to our Catholic tradition.  Our Catholic tradition is to be respected and, we find, our traditions get it right.  Concerning Phoebe, there is nothing in our Catholic tradition to give us serious ideas about her being a sacramentally ordained deacon, like Stephen or Philip.  For Phoebe, the word diakonos meant that Paul honored her as a true servant of the needs of the Church near Corinth at Cenchreae.  An analogy today might be a wealthy woman, very active in the parish, maybe even diocesan committees and projects, whom Father trusts enough even to be an emissary in important matters.

The idea that Paul would get confused about his own teaching that women shouldn’t speak in the assembly and imagine that Phoebe was that sort of deacon is plainly absurd.

Back in 2009 the annual international meeting of scholars of the Early Church and Late Antiquity met, as always, at my school, the Augustinianum in Rome.   The topic that year was “Diakonia, Diaconiae, Diaconato.  Semantica e storia nei Padri della Chiesa.

One of the most important offerings at the conference – I was there – was a paper by a left-leaning Jesuit prof at the Biblicum, Corrado Marucci, “Il ‘diaconato’ di Febe (Rom. 16, 1-2) secondo l’esegsi moderna” in the Acts of that conference published by the Augustinianum in Studia Ephemeridis Augustinianum 117 of 2010, pp. 685-695.

If you look around at Marucci’s previous writings about female diaconate, you might find him supporting a notion that an ordination received by women, called deacons, was “analogous” to male ordination, perhaps sacramental.  That was his position in 1997 in his work “Storia e valore del diaconato femminile nella Chiesa antica” in Rassegna di Teologia 38 (1997), pp. 771-795.    However, by 2009, and the conference at the Augustinianum – I was there – he had changed his tune, backed off that claim rather sharply.

In his 2009 paper, Marucci, summing up the evidence from the Fathers and Church writers up to modern times, notes three possible ways that Phoebe might have been considered to be a deacon.  First, that she had a significant ministerial role which women, especially, were able to carry out.  Second, that there was a more specific ministry for women delineated as deacons.  Third, that Rom 16 is, in fact, a testimony that there was a female diaconate like that of men but in a rudimentary form.

That said, Marucci observes that, between these three alternatives, there is no unified position among the exegetes of that passage, about the word diakonos in Rom 16, but he, Marucci, said that the substantive diakonos was a title, for a stable function, a ministry that was not just secular or civic (insofar as she was an important person in the community) but also ecclesial, without being able to be more precise about a stable, sacramental function (p. 694).

Marucci said that no scholar of the question had to that time convincingly demonstrated a growth in an ecclesial structure in the period before Romans, and that the attempt to port over the development of various ministries of a much later date (from Protestant origins) gave proof to the scriptural and historical challenges.  He said that there wasn’t a good connection between Phoebe as “deacon” and also the “true widows” of Timothy.  Finally, he said that hardly any of the ecclesiastical authors, Greek or Latin, venture into the “ministry” of Phoebe.  He brought up late Medieval writers, who thought there might have been ordained deaconesses in the early Church, though rare and then vanished. That’s quickly dismissed.  Marucci probably included that for the sake of being thorough.

In short, we should celebrate the Feast of St. Phoebe, whom we might designate as the patron saint of FedEx guys, for probably being the one who carried Paul’s letter to Rome.  She wasn’t a deacon in a sacramental sense, but she did carry out diakonia, true and valuable service to the Church at Cenchreae, just as so many faithful women do now, either women religious or involved lay women, who give so much to the Church of their time, treasure and talent.

What would we do without them?

St. Phoebe, pray for us.

 

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Biden, Abortion and Can. 915

Can. 915.

Bishops…. is it time yet?

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LONDON: 11-19 September – Eucharistic Octave with different Catholic Rites

One of you readers sent me notice about something that will take place at Corpus Christi in Maiden Lane, London.  The programme HERE.

It will be the “London Eucharistic Octave” organized by the parishes of central London.  At the end there will be a Eucharistic Procession (“Meno chiacchiare! Più processioni!”).  You readers helped to raise money for their beautiful canopy.  HERE and HERE

When you look at the schedule, you will find that, at the same Corpus Christi, recently exquisitely renovated, Votive Masses in various Rites, including, the Novus Ordo, the Traditional Roman Rite (apparently now an official separate Rite – but we shall see) the “Anglican” Ordinariate Use, the Ukrainian Divine Liturgy (I lived with Ukrainians in Rome for a while and got to know that; they liked my bass voice), and of course the procession.

What a splendid outpouring of faith.

Pray for good attendance and good weather.

 

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Rome Shot 265

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Wherein a priest alumnus of the North American College responds. Wherein Fr. Z rants.

This is NOT a representation or subtle comment on the writer. Keep reading and you’ll get why there is a picture of a Horned Lizard here.

From an alumnus of the North American College (US seminary in Rome) … edited so that the style of writing can’t be traced to any one priest by those who might recognize it.

As a NAC grad, I read your article [HERE] with interest.

I disagree that a student will get in trouble for googling the Latin Mass and related material.

Things that will get a seminarian in trouble are wearing a cassock, biretta, or bad mouthing Conciliar theology or the Vatican II liturgy in public.

Men who show openly an affinity for pre-Conciliar ‘look’ make formators nervous.

I work with priests who are fans of the usus antiquior.  It’s not their interest in that liturgical form that gets them in trouble.  What gets them in trouble are firm statements on faith or morals.  They are black and white and might polarize the faithful.  What gets them in trouble is a biretta, which can really anger some of the older Vatican II clergy.

Or what get’s them in trouble is their ‘obsession’ with using a one thousand year old document, the Summa Theologiae, as a catechetical resource.

That’s what gets them in trouble.

“What gets them in trouble are firm statements on faith or morals….”

That’s it in one.

Liturgy is doctrine, of course.  And we are our rites.

The enemies of Tradition might not always be very bright or well-formed, but they sense the truth of that connection of doctrine and worship viscerally and they react in nasty ways, rather like the Horned Lizard which literally shoots blood from its eyes as a defensive instinct.

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Yes, experience informs that this is a pretty good analogy.

Birettas and Latin trigger that generation.

They were conditioned in those halcyon days of change and revolution, protests and the “spirit” and liberation, all oozing together in the ambient of the Church and COUNCIL, to the point that they fused into a kind of mythic icon.

The sight of a biretta, a black chasuble, ad orientem, triggers violent flashbacks, sends them back to their roots of protest and change.

When they see younger priests embracing those things they threw away, literally into dumpsters, they feel threatened and become defensive. Many of them sense in the younger generation’s desire for tradition an implicit attack on their own persons, on their priestly identity (resting on whatever sort of foundation), a criticism of their whole life’s work. So they lash out.

In a sense, they are not wrong that the embrace of Tradition by younger priests is an implicit criticism of their life’s work. That’s because what they strove to build after Vatican II didn’t have the desired effect. In fact, looking around at the Church, on the level of statistics, it was a real failure.

We can blame them and not blame them.  They weren’t and aren’t perfect.  No priests are.  Most of them put their backs into doing what they were told.   The real blame, the blamable blame, lies with a few.

Most of our now older priests were absolutely sincere in what they did. They were good priests and they were formed in their particular time.  But a lot of their work, in the end, didn’t work, objectively.   Yes, yes… there are many factors.  Blah blah blah.  But as bishops and priests go, the Church will go, to the point where St. Jean Eudes’ dire admonishment kicks in.

It stings these older men to suggest that maybe we ought to go back a few squares, and rethink our path.

The younger guys don’t intend to stick a finger in their eye. That’s not their intention in becoming more “trad”.   They just don’t have the baggage of the previous waves of priests. They are simply not as invested in that chimeric ‘spirit’ of the Council and those oh so halcyon days.   Those aren’t their own days!   These are their days!  For them, The Council was just a Council, along with a bunch of other Council’s in a chain of continuity that doesn’t cancel out the value of the previous Councils.  These younger men just want to have their patrimony – all of it, and not just the part that started on 11 October 1962 onward – and get on with things, do their priestly, pastoral work.  They just want to be priests and do things that actually work, not just repeat the obviously failed experiments of the past.

If some few do want to rub it in the face of their older brethren, well… shame on them. Thanks, guys, you few, you unhappy few, for betraying our cause by your willful imprudence.

The vast majority of priests who want Tradition simply want to get on with things, the more the merrier: “Join us, please! We will welcome you. Give us a hand.” Or, at least, “If not, please leave us alone. Don’t mess with our joy.”

I’ve made this comparison before.

Say you are in Chicago and you want to drive to New York. You set out and drive for a long time. Suddenly, thinking you were drawing nearer to Empire State you see a sign saying “Kansas Welcomes You!” What do you do? Do you keep driving in the same direction? Not if you really desire to get to New York. No. Commonsense dictates that you do a U-turn and head the other direction until you start see welcome signs for Eastern states. That’s the smart course. It would be stupid to continue driving in the opposite direction once you know you have strayed. Let’s add to this the fact that you have put on your car a sign, “NEW YORK OR BUST!” You pull into the gas station in Kansas to fuel up and the guy there says, “Hey, didn’t you come in from the East? Buddy, you are going in the wrong direction!” You pay him and start to pull out onto the road, again toward the West. The guy runs out waving his arms, shouting, “HEY! THAT WAY! NEW YORK IS THAT WAY!” But, no. You are on your path.

For these older guys who committed to what they committed in the 60s, 70s, 80s, the sight of a growing congregation at a Traditional Latin Mass is like hot coals on their forehead.  But they’ve got those thinning white-knuckled  hands locked onto the steering wheel and, by gum, they’re not turning the car back.

For this reason, some of them, sad to say, would rather drive off a cliff than turn around.  They would rather destroy a thriving, growing community of happy, zealous young Catholics than let it grow.  Instead of joining them, or at least benignly watching from afar, they’ll run over them with the car on the way to the cliff’s edge.

Because, in the end, it’s all about them.

We can and must act, in charity, in the face of this new round of challenges.

 

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“Oh Lord, please don’t let me be misunderstood!”

UPDATE:

BTW… doesn’t that ACLU graphic remind you of something?

Doctor Strangelove, maybe?


I thought this was an interesting juxtaposition.

Being bullied into being injected with something that isn’t really a vaccine, that does who knows what, is really furthering your civil liberties!   It’s science!

Now Francis, from his recent interview with COPE.

Traditionis custodes was intended to “support and consolidate Summorum Pontificum.”

Pretty much gutting the document and trampling the legitimate aspirations of the most marginalized group in the Church based on who know what survey evidence, is really supporting and consolidating that document.  It’s pastoral!

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Baby, do you understand me now
Sometimes I feel a little mad
But don’t you know that no one alive
Can always be an angel
When things go wrong I seem to be bad
But I’m just a soul whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don’t let me be misunderstood

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Fr. Z’s Kitchen: In honor of St. Stephen

The state of things is so awful that I needed a pick me up. And since recently a few people have really picked me up by sending things from my wish list, including a lot of really good paprika, there was only one thing to do.

It was time to honor St. Stephen of Hungary, whose Feast it is in the ever-living, ever-green TRADITIONAL Roman Calendar that they will never be able to suppress.

Calendar… well.  Calendars can change.  But they won’t destroy the Roman Rite.

I made Paprikás Csirke the other day. Today I made the other famous Magyar dish, Gulyás (Gulash, pronounced GOO-yash) and Uborkasaláta (OO-borkashalata).

First, thank you to the kind soul who sent San Pellegrino Bitter from my wishlist.  Here’s to you, BA!

By the way, when I use something that was sent by a reader, I pray for that kind person.  It is my duty and pleasure.

The mise en place for Cucumber Salad, which is to be eaten along side the Gulyás… to put out the flames, I thinkAgain, this is not the “weak ass” garlic I complained about.  This was sent be a reader who grows it.  It’s another thing entirely.

The recipes agree that the cucumber should be sliced as thinly as possible.  That spurred a hunt for my mandolin through boxes in the garage, in WWII Pacific Theater enemy torture box conditions.  But I found, it, a gift from a friend.  Thanks.

Mix through with salt and press it down to get moisture out.  Later I will still have to pick up the mass and squeeeeeeeeeeeze it for greater effect.   I think I’ll extract the seeds next time before slicing.

While that’s going on, the mise en place of the Gulyás.

The recipe called for hot instead of sweet paprika, used with the cukes.  Note the garlic cloves.   The recipe asked for five, but these are huge and far more effective than the usual stuff just about any recipe written in English could fathom.

Get the onions going…. in the Dutch oven (for the sake of the reader who wanted more Dutch oven meals.    For fat I used salt pork and some left over pancetta, which I left in.

Here’s where I would improve the recipes I looked at.  I would take a page from the French and give the beef, cut into small pieces, a dusting of flour, so that the stew could make its own roux and tighten up a little in the final stages.

What happens to garlic.

Starting to combine.

Next, bell peppers, carrots, tomato, and PAPRIKA, the hot kind.  That’s about a quarter cup.  It turned out to be enough, for sure.  This paprika, a gift from the reader, is not the “weak assed” stuff in the grocery store.

Those carrots needed to be used.  Note the bay leaves.

Meanwhile, back to the cucumber salad.   Combine some sugar, salt, vinegar and minced garlic to macerate.  After a while add a little water and adjust the balance.  Stir through your slices cucumbers and give it dill and sweet paprika.

The result after about an hour of simmering.

Gulyás and Uborkasaláta.

I had a Chilean Carmenere with this.  For dessert… a few peanut M&Ms.

Now, back to office, working chess problems and my daily Hungarian lesson.

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The Superiors™ of “Ecclesia Dei” and the “Smash!” in Houston.

Whew!   A lot of news today. I’ve been bus this morning writing my new weekly column at 1 Peter 5, now happily under new management.

Let’s see a couple things.

First, in the wake of Traditionis custodes, the superiors of the various once “Ecclesia Dei” communities (those religious institutes established by the Holy See for use of the books of the Traditional Roman Rite – and Francis in his latest interview says it is a different Rite and who am I to judge?) met with each other in view of an upcoming meeting in Rome with their now relevant dicasteries, the Congregations for Religious and for Divine Worship.

Frankly, I wouldn’t shed a tear if they – let’s just call them The Superiors™, kinda Motown – collectively boycotted the summons to Rome.  But they won’t.  I predict that they will be petted a little, lulled.  Then an instruction will be issued by Religious that restricts the formation of their new postulants and by Worship telling then that they had better concelebrate or else.  All in pastoral solicitude and citing Francis’ remark that TC was really a fatherly attempt to “support and consolidate” Summorum Pontificum.

The Superiors™  issued a joint statement.  It’s quite a read.  Though I heard it through the grapevine from multiple sources, in fraternal good will I mention in chief that you can find the whole thing at Rorate.  HERE

I want to highlight a couple of things.

Francis, in TC, said that the use of the Traditional Roman Rite (apparently now acknowledged as such – who am I to judge, not that it was obvious), has caused widespread division and the people who desire it call the Council into question.  We are simply supposed to accept that premise.   That’s an absurd falsehood, of course, and it grieves me that he has been duped into thinking that it is true.   The Sups™, God bless them, wrote in their Communiqué:

The signatory Institutes want, above all, to reiterate their love for the Church and their fidelity to the Holy Father. This filial love is tinged with great suffering today. We feel suspected, marginalized, banished. However, we do not recognize ourselves in the description given in the accompanying letter of the Motu Proprio Traditionis custodes, of July 16, 2021.

[…]

Have any mistakes been made? We are ready, as every Christian is, to ask forgiveness if some excess of language or mistrust of authority may have crept into any of our members. We are ready to convert if party spirit or pride has polluted our hearts.

[…]

We beg for a humane, personal, trusting dialogue, far from ideologies or the coldness of administrative decrees.

[…]

Pope Francis, “encourage[s] the Church’s pastors to listen to them with sensitivity and serenity, with a sincere desire to understand their plight and their point of view, in order to help them live better lives and to recognize their proper place in the Church.”(Amoris Laetitia, 312). We are eager to entrust the tragedies we are living to a father’s heart. We need listening and goodwill, not condemnation without prior dialogue.

The harsh judgment creates a feeling of injustice and produces resentment. Patience softens hearts. We need time.

[…]

There it is.  “Stop! In the name of love”

As I said when this goat rodeo began, the people now making the harsh administrative decrees have not had any personal contact with the already marginalized community within their flocks that they are now marginalizing even more?

Where’s the Christian charity?  Heck, where’s even basic worldly fairness?

An example of this can be found in the new diktats from Card. DiNardo for the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston sent to me by a priest friend down there.    It’s all online HERE in all its chilling stinginess.    In a nutshell, there were four parishes in the Archdiocese with the TLM with Sunday Masses.  If Papa was a rolling stone, then DiNardo – sadly to say an alumnus of my school in Rome – has done his own roll, and crushed out three of them and also banned all other sacraments with the traditional Rite.

Ken Wolfe at Rorate remarks that:

“[W]hy does Cardinal DiNardo grant permission for protestants to use his cathedral for their “ordinations” but Catholics who attend the traditional Latin Mass cannot worship using the 1962 books at their parish?

“What’s goin’ on?”  That’s a damn good question.

In the past, Card. DiNardo commendably has confirmed in the Traditional Roman Rite and he showed up for the ground breaking of the parish entrusted to the FSSP, Regina Caeli, which has survived today’s pogrom. One might ask, where did our love go?  But, over the span of years since Summorum, how engaged has he been with these people for whom he has the cura animarum.

Cura animarum.

How does TC and the Houston Pogrom contribute to the care of souls?  Really?  If there are some people who have gone astray into some sort of extremism, then doesn’t it behoove the shepherd to go in search of the few? Save them personally rather than through a proxy or an administrative decree?

Pastoral care à la the Cultural Revolution.

CRUSH THE FOUR OLDS!  MISSALE ROMANUM, BREVIARIUM ROMANUM, PONTIFICALE ROMANUM, GRADUALE ROMANUM!

In a time when this particular sector of the Church is experiencing growth and evidencing a vital future, now is when you stomp on it?

Cura animarum.

Build back better!

Scatter the old world! Build a new world!
Dasui jiu shijie! Chuangli xin shijie!

I have a vintage poster of this from that time.  Along with my painting of Bl. Miguel Pro, it reminds me of how fast things can go sideways.   Here it is, still waiting for me to find its wall in my new place.

Sigh.

Let’s lighten it up a little, though the lyrics here seem oddly appropriate to the topic.

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Rome Shot 264

Photo by Bree Dail.

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