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Tag Archives: mutual enrichment
ASK FATHER: Ought we import elements of the Traditional Latin Mass into the Novus Ordo?
From a priest reader…. QUAERITUR: As both the Extraordinary and the Ordinary Forms of the Mass have their own respective set of rubrics (the former being more detailed than the latter), my question relates to those priests celebrating both forms: … Read More
@CCPecknold writes on belief in the Eucharist and Fr. Z rants at length
I need seminarians and young (especially) priests to pay attention to this. Chad Pecknold, contributing editor at the Catholic Herald (where I have a weekly column), is articulate, bring and right. He manifests these attributes much to the dismay of … Read More
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ASK FATHER: Proposals to priests to “enrich” the Novus Ordo from Tradition
From a reader… QUAERITUR: I’ve recently come across an article on NLM titled “A Primer for aTradition-Minded Celebration of the OF Mass.” As you can assume, this article has suggestions for celebrating the OF Mass traditionally. My question is this: which of … Read More
ASK FATHER: Priest plugged Novus Ordo things into a TLM
From a reader… This past weekend I attended a TLM, let’s just say in New England, where a a couple odd things occurred. 1) The priest came out to the lecturn and read the standard NO “Prayers of the People”. … Read More
Wherein Fr. Z rants: Card. Sarah’s proposals for “mutual enrichment”
I mentioned the firehose effect of onrushing news in another post. There are strong debates going on over many important issues right now. One of those which most interests me has been stoked by the 10th anniversary of Benedict XVI’s … Read More
Catholic Herald: Is there really an Old Mass revival?
From the UK’s best Catholic weekly the Catholic Herald, print edition (subscribe HERE). My emphases and comments. Is there really an Old Mass revival? Ten years ago Benedict XVI lifted restrictions on the Old Rite. So what had changed in Britain, … Read More
The effect of lay participation on the souls of priests
Today during Mass I was struck hard with something, which reinforced an observation I read recently in an email. In effect, the priestly writer said that priests, who are under constant and insidious attacks by the Devil, are therefore also constantly at … Read More
More on the “mutual enrichment” theme: West meets East Edition
More about “mutual enrichment” comes from Catholic World Report. First there was a piece Fr. Peter Stravinskas, who made suggestions about how the older, traditional form of Mass should be altered. HERE I think he was wrong in the very … Read More
ASK FATHER: Can priests serve as and vest as deacons in the Novus Ordo?
UPDATE: I’ve received quite a bit of mail about my response. The preponderance says that I was right in my argument, but also that the Caerimoniale‘s directions do NOT prohibit priests from vesting as deacons. Here is an example: When the … Read More
Concerning some bad ideas about how to “enrich” the traditional, Extraordinary Form
UPDATE: Another reaction at NLM. UPDATE: Be sure to read a response posted at CWR by a priest who wrote his thesis on Universae Ecclesiae. HERE ___ Originally Published on: Feb 8, 2017 ___ When I was around the Pontifical Commission … Read More
ASK FATHER: Using the traditional offertory prayers in the Novus Ordo. Wherein Fr. Z rants.
From a reader… I know a who uses the Old Offertory Prayers when he says an Ordinary Form Mass. Is this okay for a priest to do? Is it a liturgical abuse? The legislation which covers the use of the Extraordinary … Read More
Card. Burke on “mutual enrichment”. Fr. Z rants.
When Benedict XVI promulgated his “emancipation proclamation” for the older form of the Roman Rite, his Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum, he wrote about a “mutual enrichment” between the Ordinary and Extraordinary Forms which could take place. For that to happen, … Read More
Brick by brick… it is happening
Over at the excellent Chant Cafe, I found this from a priest contributor, Fr. Christopher Smith. My emphases and comments. I was recently at a Cathedral down South on a weekday and I wanted to celebrate a private Mass. As … Read More
What the Ordinary Form brings to the Extraordinary Form: the question of Mutual Enrichment
Since Universae Ecclesiae has been issued the subject of the “mutual enrichment” of the older and newer, the Extraordinary and Ordinary Forms of the Roman Rite has reemerged. For going on two decades now, I have been saying that – … Read More
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Common Sense and Mutual Enrichment
I have spoken lately of music, that is, the Sanctus divided Benedictus and the silent recitation of the Roman Canon. I even dealt with it in my last PODCAzT (here). With a brotherly tip of the biretta to His Hermeneuticalness … Read More
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QUAERITUR: EF practices in OF, OF in EF
From a reader: I’d value your opinion. I attended Mass today at a parish run by a new, quite traditional community of priests that regularly uses the Extraordinary Form. Today they celebrated a reverent Ordinary Form Mass but the priest … Read More
QUAERITUR: using old Mass rubrics in the new Mass
From a reader: Recently, our apostolate targeted priests to say the Ordinary Form properly as well, and even encourage the use of the rubrics of the Extraordinary Form, in the Novus Ordo. Nonetheless, one of our priest consultants (who is … Read More
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