Salt and Light attacks Card. Burke: sticking to the ideal instead of ministering to people

Life Site has a piece about Salt and Light network’s verbal attack on Card. Burke. HERE

As you may know, Fr. Thomas Rosica, who did some work for the Holy See Press Office during the Synod of Bishops, heads up Salt and Light.

Salt and Light TV slams Cardinal Burke as being in an ‘Ivory Tower’

Lauding the Vatican’s Synod on the Family as “huge” change, a producer from Canada’s Catholic TV network Salt and Light, headed by CEO Fr. Thomas Rosica, has criticized outspoken champion of orthodoxy Cardinal Raymond Burke, suggesting that he is in an “ivory tower” and “sticking to the ideal” instead of ministering to people — such as homosexuals and the divorced — caught up in the “messiness of life.”

“There’s finally [?] a realization that maybe the way we’ve been approaching things doesn’t help, or it’s not taking into account that that’s an ideal and real life is messy and we have to be able to deal with the mess, not the black and white,” said Alicia Ambrosio, producer and host of Vatican Connections on Salt and Light Television, to the host of TV Ontario’s The Agenda program last Friday evening, Oct. 17. (Click here to watch the video)

In responding to questions about the highly criticized synod midterm report, Ambrosio gave no indication that it was deemed totally unacceptable to the majority of the synod bishops. In fact, she talked about it as though the document was still credible and its points worthy of consideration. The interview was undertaken sometime Friday since there were references during the discussion to events on Thursday at the synod and therefore Ambrosio had to be well aware of the furor over the midterm report which began Oct. 13.

Ambrosio said that while there will be no doctrinal change in the Church’s teaching regarding homosexuality and divorce, there already is what she called a “change in tone.” [But by all means talk about Card. Burke that way.]

“A change in — you know what — maybe we don’t have to tell people they’re wrong. Maybe we can work with them and find a way to welcome them into our community, even though they might not be perfect in our eyes. So, that’s going to be huge.” [And what does "welcome" look like?  I think the only thing that is going to matter to them is whether or not they can receive Holy Communion, which has become a sign of "belonging" or "welcome", instead of the Sacrament It is.]

When asked by the host to comment on Pope Francis, Ambrosio called him “realistic” because “he’s the only — not the only — but one of the few popes we’ve had in recent times who has actually worked in the trenches, so to speak.” [Good grief.  And how does she know that?]

Ambrosio said it is cardinals like Burke who have set themselves against the “direction” the pope is trying to move the Church.

“It’s kind of like what you see in politics as well, with left and right. No matter what the other side says, this side is going to freak out. [?] Cardinal Burke comes from a stream that doesn’t believe we should be even having this conversation. [His position can be summed as] ‘this is the truth, this is what should be happening, if you’re not meeting up to the truth, if you’re not living up to this ideal, you’re wrong. And there should be no conversation about how to bend to welcome people in, because then you’re bending on the truth.’”

“So, it’s a mindset. Discussions I’ve had with other journalists and other Catholics – we’re really wondering what’s going to happen to Cardinal Burke and others of his ilk after the Synod, because if this conversation goes down a road that they can’t accept, then what?” she said.

Ambrosio criticized Burke for being “unrealistic.”

“It’s really living with the belief that, ‘this is what we teach, this is the truth. Stick with it, otherwise you’re out. And we shouldn’t be discussing what that truth is because then we’re changing what we are completely.’”

“Just like I could say that Pope Francis is realistic as opposed to progressive, [Ahhhh... that's what Francis is.] I think statements like Cardinal Burke’s are coming from a place of more of being in an ivory tower, you know, living with the ideal,” she said.

The phrase “ivory tower” is typically used pejoratively to indicate intellectuals caught up in rather useless lofty pursuits that makes them disconnected from the practical concerns of everyday life.

Ambrosio also disparaged the previous papacies of Benedict XVI and Saint John Paul II, suggesting that they were out of touch with the faithful.

“The lay people finally [?] feel like their voice is being heard. Their lives are being reflected in what this pope is saying. And that’s huge. So, we’re getting that change from the top down, and from the bottom up. Because now, to be credible to the lay people — to be credible to the faithful — it’s not just about being really holy, and being really prayerful, and giving a good sermon, it’s about walking the walk.”

When asked about what the Synod means for homosexuals being accepted as homosexuals in Catholic parishes, Ambrosio replied: “It means that on the ground level, in the parish, it’s suddenly not going to be acceptable to other faithful, it’s not going to be acceptable to exclude someone who has a sincere thirst for God and who has a sincere desire to practice their faith, but is either in a same-sex relationship or is divorced and remarried. It’s not going to be acceptable to exclude that person anymore. And that’s huge.” [They have a thirst for God!  Who cares if they reject the Sixth Commandment of the Decalogue!]

Ambrosio agreed with the host near the end of the show that “acceptance” was the first step towards full inclusion of homosexuality within the Catholic Church, but immediately backpedalled, saying that while Church teaching cannot change on divorce or homosexuality, nevertheless, “we are going to see the parish doors open and these people will find a place to live their faith.”

LifeSiteNews asked Ambrosio if it should be sinners who need to change — rather than the Church changing her tone — so that they can live according to God’s ideals as revealed through the Church, but did not receive a response by press time.


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ASK FATHER: The priest changes many things during Mass

From a reader…


In my parish, the priest is a bit of a progressive type (he recommended Fishwrap as a good Catholic website). Anyway, just wondering whether it’s OK that he never says the Nicene Creed (it’s always the Apostle’s Creed), whether getting the congregation to say the Eucharistic Prayer while standing is acceptable, whether he can omit the Mystery of Faith and finally, whether he can omit one of the readings on Sunday as if it were a daily mass for the purpose of shortening the mass at the suggestion of some of the parishioners. I might also add that he doesn’t use the new translation of the mass. He started removing a reading as of this Sunday, 19th Oct. 2014. The rest he’s always done since he came to my parish over 9 years ago. I’ve only recently started learning my faith and following your most excellent blog, and I’ve not got many people to ask. Thanks.

The Apostles Creed is a legitimate option in the Novus Ordo. The Missal says that it may be substituted “especially during Lent and Easter Time.”   However, substitution with the Apostles Creed is not the norm.  It can be done occasionally and for a good reason.

The Athanasian Creed, as wonderful as it is, is not an acceptable substitute at Mass.

The 1953 Jane Froman song is not permitted, even if it’s projected on the back screen and sung by Tom Jones

“Getting the congregation to say the Eucharistic Prayer…”? If he’s trying to do that, he’s flat out wrong. That’s not good at all. The Eucharistic Prayer is reserved to the priest.  

He may not omit the Mystery of Faith. But, come to think of it, if he truly is messing around this much with the liturgy, one might begin to question if the Mystery of the Faith is truly being made present to the congregation.

He may not chose to use the former, flawed translation of the Mass. That’s over and done with now. Using the obsolete translation is not permitted.

The posture of the people – standing, kneeling, sitting – is not up to him to determine. These postures are determined by universal law, sometimes modified by provisions made by the local bishops’ conferences.

You might be better off learning about the faith somewhere else, at some parish where the Church’s liturgical rites are actually observed and where the priest understands his role as servant of the liturgy.

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ASK FATHER: Placement of choir

From a reader…


What does the Church recommend IF there is NOT A LOFT?

I am a music director at a small rural church and ONLY at Christmas and Easter do we have the choir come up during communion and the sing from the corner of the Sanctuary. The Altar is positioned in the center of the Sanctuary with carpet while to the side, in a space 30 feet wide that would even allow a rail to be installed to divide, is where the choir has been in the past. BUT NEVER DURING THE SACRIFICE OF THE MASS.


In small churches certain accommodations must be made.

Perhaps more space could be made in the sanctuary if the altar were to be pushed up against the back wall.   It’s amazing how much space is opened up by getting the table out of the way.

Other options might have the choir sitting in the back row of pews, or taking out the back row of pews and putting in risers.

Or, depending on the quality of the choir, putting them in the parking lot… facing away.

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Michael Voris, Card. Burke… corrections

Get this from Michael Voris:

Michael stood up. Good for him.

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ROME – Day 3: Vestments, cont. Other stuff.

This morning we had Mass at Ss. Trinità dei Pellegrini, the FSSP parish.  They are always welcoming and helpful when priests want to say Mass.

I like the way the amices are done here.  The ribbons can be removed easily, for laundering purposes.  I shall have to have some of these made.


Our altar for Mass, beneath the great painting of the Trinity by Guido Reni.  This is one of my favorite painting in Rome.


I am off to find the trim for the Pontifical vestments this morning.  I’d like to get this project taken care of today, if possible.



Linguine with scallops, zucchini blossoms and saffron.


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22 October: Sts. Nunilo and Alodia! Virgins and Martyrs

The members of the Religion of Peace like to try to kill innocent people on anniversaries, it seems. Today, the Canadian Parliament was attacked. HERE I suspect they weren’t Quebec separatists.

Today is the Feast of St. John Paul II. BUT!…

Today, 22 October, is the feast of the glorious martyrs Sts. Nunilo and Alodia!

Nunilo and Alodia were 9th c. virgin martyrs in Huesca, Spain. They were born to a Muslim father and Christian mother. They chose their mother’s Christianity.

As a result of their choice for Christ, the Emir Abd ar-Rahman II executed them as apostates according to Sharia law.  Ah, the Religion of Peace!  The things change…

Oh yes.  Before I forget, it is also the memorial of Bl. John Paul II.

We read about Sts. Nunilo and Alodia also in good old Butler’s Lives of the Saints:

Among the numberless martyrs who in those days sealed their fidelity to the law of God with their blood, two holy virgins were most illustrious.

They were sisters, of noble extraction, and their names were Nunilo and Alodia. Their father was a Mahometan, and their mother a Christian, and after the death of her first husband, she was so unhappy as to take a second husband who was also a Mahometan. Her two daughters, who had been brought up in the Christian faith, had much to suffer in the exercise of their religion from the brutality of this step-father, who was a person of high rank in Castile. They were also solicited by many suitors to marry, but resolving to serve God in the state of holy virginity, they obtaine

d leave to go to the house of a devout Christian aunt, where, enjoying an entire liberty as to their devotions, they strove to render themselves every day more agreeable to their divine Spouse.

Their fasts were severe, and almost daily, and their devotions were only interrupted by necessary duties or other good works.

The town where they lived, named Barbite, or Vervete, (which seems to be that which is now called Castro Viejo, near Najara in Castile, upon the borders of Navarre), being subject to the Saracens, when the laws of king Abderamene were published against the Christians, they were too remarkable by their birth and the reputation of their zeal and piety not to be soon apprehended by the king’s officers.

They appeared before the judge not only undaunted, but with a holy joy painted on their countenances. He employed the most flattering caresses and promises to work them into a compliance, and at length proceeded to threats. When these artifices failed him, he put them into the hands of impious women, hoping these instruments of the devil would be able by their crafty address to insinuate themselves into the hearts of the virgins. But Christ enlightened and protected his spouses, and those wicked women after many trials were obliged to declare to the judge that nothing could conquer their resolution.

He therefore condemned them to be beheaded in their prison; which was executed on the 22d of October, 851, or, according to Morales, in 840. Their bodies were buried in the same place: the greatest part of their relics is now kept in the abbey of Saint Saviour of Leger, in Navarre. Their festival is celebrated with an extraordinary concourse of people at Huesca in Aragon, and at Bosca, where a portion of their relics is preserved.

Someone translated a bit of Memoriale Sanctorum, by St. Eulogius of Cordoba about the saints (Book Two, Chapter Seven: Nunilo and Alodia, virgins and martyrs.)

Also, for a spiffy hymn to the sisters go here.

From the Mozarabic Psalter, pp. 262-263, a hymn to these sister-saints. It seems to follow the St. Eulogius account pretty closely.

Restant nunc ad Christi fidem
virtutis insignia,
que sanctorum rite possint
adsequi preconia,
que unius festa diem
celebrantur gloria.

Now they hold out toward Christ’s faith
The banners of virtue,
Who from the saints were able solemnly
To come as heralds,
Who together on one feast day
Are celebrated in glory!

Adsunt nempe sanctitatis
nobilis prosapie,
Nunilo siquidem virgo,
sanctaque Alodia,
que clarent germanitate,
clarentque martirio.

They are, of course, of holiness.
Of noble lineage,
Nunilo, though only a maiden,
and holy Alodia
who shone in sisterhood,
and shone in martyrdom!

Que ambo inueunti
etatis infantie
martires deo qua fide
dilitescunt domui,
sed Christi accense igne
enitescunt celibes.

Who both from the beginning,
From the age of babies,
Martyrs of God whose faith
they hid in the house,
But Christ, you reckon the fire
the unmarried ones started shining.

Tunc deinde functionem
cuiusdam versipelli
inpelluntur ad conspectum
presidis viam vici
vitam normam confitentes
Christiani dogmatis.

Then from there by the doing
of a certain Deceiver*
they were impelled into the sight
of the governor, in the street by chance;
they confessing to the rule of life
of dogma Christians.

Protinus regi delate
perducuntur pariter
urbis Osce adsistentes
principis presentia;
que interrogate pari
Christum voce clamitant.

Immediately carried to the king,
they are brought together
to stand before the city of Osca (Huesca/Adahuesca)
in the presence of the prince;
How both, questioned,
cry out, “Christ!” With one voice!

Ylico traduntur alme
private custodiam,
ubi quaterdenum tempus
dierum instantie
respuunt promissiones,
respuunt supplicia.

They were handed over on the spot, fed
under private guard,
where for four-tens’ time
of days of approaches
they spit on promises,
they spit on entreaties.

Sed in tali mancipate
dierum articulo
non cessant Christum precantes
ut illis constantiam
passionis atque mortis
largiretur optio.

But enslaved in such a way
for the days I articulate,
they do not cease praying Christ
for that constancy
to suffering and death,
when the choice would be given.

Igitur conpleta dies
inluxit feliciter;
conproducte producuntur
ad form perniciter
sic se ambo exortantes
ad palmam martirii.

Therefore, the final day
lights them with happiness;
They are led forward together
to the forum quickly,
thus both exhort each other
toward the palm of martyrdom.

Percitus litor hostendens
fulgurantes gladium
ubi conprosilit, prima
Nunilo sanctissima
crine sibi inligata
percussa prosternitur.

Hastily the lictor stretching out
his flashing sword
where it springs up, first
the most holy Nunilo
with her long hair tied up,
struck, was prostrated.

Quod cernens germana virgo
protinus Alodia
excipit flexa cerbice
inminentem gladium,
sicque ambe laureate
preveuntur etheris.

Which, seeing, her virgin sister
Alodia at once
pulls out from the bent neck
the sword sticking out;
and thus by it both, laurel-crowned,
come above the upper sky.

Inde tuam omnes sancte
flagitamus gratiam,
ut earum interventu
dimittantur crimina,
vitaque feliciorum
potiamur gaudia.

From there, all your holy
grace we ask earnestly,
so by their intervention
crimes may be dismissed,
and the life of the happy blessed
we may receive in joy.

Procul sit a corde dolum
pellantur lascivia,
caritatis omnis uno
conectamur vinculo,
quo carisma, dona sancti
perfruamur spiritus.

May deceit be far from our hearts;
may wantonness be beaten;
May everyone be one, in charity’s
chain be joined,
that by the charism, the gifts of the Holy
Spirit, we may be delighted.

Gloria patri natoque
semper et paraclito
laus potestas atque virtus,
gratiarum copia,
que deum cuncta fatentur
seculorum secula. Amen.

Glory to the Father, and the Son,
and the Paraclete always.
Praise, power and virtue,
abundance of graces.
May He be acknowledged God,
for ages of ages. Amen.

* versipelli: Deceiver — “versipellis” is literally a skinturner, skinchanger, shapeshifter. It was used figuratively in classical literature as meaning a crafty, deceitful person. In this case, they’re talking about the Devil.

One correspondent wrote:

PS — Probably the most prominent Alodia namesake today is the Filipina cosplayer and (according to that one fan documentary) “Queen of the Geeks”, Alodia Gosiengfiao. The whole phenomenon of a cosplay supermodel cracks me up…. Happy nameday to her, and to all you Alodias and Nunilons!

Mass singing of a contemporary hymn, and an instrumental version, for Ss. Nunilo and Alodia, from Huescar in Spain (a sort of sister city in Granada to Adahuesca, the saints’ birthplace in Aragon, that adopted the saints as their own). These mp3s are zipped up.

More information about Ss. Nunilo and Alodia, from a local Huescar confraternity. This seems to draw from the Aragonese account.

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ROME – Day 2: Vestments edition

This morning the group went off to the Audience and some time in the Museum, both of which I passed.

On my way to meet a priest friend at Gammarelli I stopped at Sant’Eustachio.  Just a nice view, inside a Roman church.  Turning the pulpit into a bookstand was kinda dopey.


We hit some textile shops.  It is cheaper, sometimes at least, to get the fabric at a fabric place and then have the work done at Gammarelli.  I got some spectacular gold silk for a song.  This will save hundreds of euros off the price of the Pontifical set we are making.  I think it’ll be matched with blue trim, if I can find the right stuff.  Thanks to my friend for helping with the acquisition.


Largo Argentina has an archeological site, with Republican temples.  Spiffy.


Time for lunch!

We started with a bowl of ovoli (Amanita caesarea) with shavings of fennel and just a hint of cheese.


We chose a duetto of Rigatoni alls Norcina and Bombolotti all’Amatriciana.



I had to have my requisite saltimbocca.  That duty is now fulfilled.


On the other hand, there was this vestment option.


I am sorry to see the return of this garbage to Roman shops.  Francis Effect, perhaps.

I almost chose this option for the set.


Then there was the Bovine Option.  It is for Wisconsin, after all.


More later.


Today the group went to visit, in quite a private way, the barracks of the Swiss Guards.

Some armor.


Some uni’s, ready for consignment.  All the uniforms are tailor made.


Some historic uniforms.


The guys who make the uniforms.  Great guys!


Historic weapons.


Not so historic.  I would have liked a better view, but I didn’t want to freak people out.


These would be true pacifiers.


A rarely spotted coat-of-arms in Rome.

Can you make it out?  Have a try!


I met an old friend for supper.  We caught up on all manner of ecclesial… news… over pappardelle al ragù di cinghiale.


Then past the Pantheon on my way to find a Partagas.


Tomorrow, Mass with the group early at Ss Trinità and then to find the trim for the vestments.



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Oh the humanity!

Okay… we orthodox, faithful, conservative Catholics are the most flexible people around, but this simply needs some sort of intervention.

Michael Voris is in Rome.  He was doing some coverage of the Synod and has stayed also for the trad events coming up.

I am pretty disturbed about something.

A priest friend alerted me to this.  Perhaps he thought I could, I dunno… intervene?

He wrote:

After all the bad news of the last two days; now I have to deal with this!  Will it never end???  Oh, the humanity!

A Searsucker jacket in October, Michael? In Rome?

I’ll never forget seeing in Michael’s office – and I can hardly bring myself to write this – a Richard McBrien book!

Connection?  Is he a crypto-liberal? Who can know for sure.

I’m in Rome right now for a pilgrimage. Last night after a supper with the pilgrimage group, I joined Michael and crew at a restaurant nearby (which I had recommended to them, by the way), for dessert and catching up on news.   I brought up this serious issue.

PS Michael’s a great sport.  Like all faithful Catholics, he has a good sense of humor.  I showed this to him before posting.

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D. Pittsburgh: Extraordinary Form Parish

I firmly believe that when the older form of Holy Mass is celebrated in more places, we will have a sounder basis for the “New Evangelization” called for by our Popes. Thus, celebrations of the Extraordinary Form must not be concentration (segregated, isolated, contained) in one place in a city or diocese.

Also, for all the good work traditional groups such as the FSSP do, the real renewal will begin when diocesan priests learn the Extraordinary Form. There are a lot of challenges to overcome on that score, but that’s what we need.

That said, there is good news in Pittsburgh. Bp. David Zubick establish a personal parish for the Extraordinary Form in Pittsburgh. HERE

Brick by brick.

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Pope Francis, Pope

I have been, frankly, both exhausted and a bit disgusted after the last Synod and I have been trying to have a little RnR.  That doesn’t make for a lot of posting of edgy stuff.

So, here’s a little meat to chew on.

That closing address Pope Francis made to the Synod… interesting, no?  Forget about the part wherein he does a little, what can you call it, name-calling?  About “intellectuals” and “do-gooders”?  No.  What caught my eye is that middle section.

For the last year and a half, His Holiness has been downplaying his image as “Pope”.  He signs his name “Francis” without the other rigamarole which indicated the year of his pontificate.  He is simply been “Francis… Bishop of Rome” rather than than “Supreme Pontiff”.

But in the middle part of the closing address for the Extraordinary Synod, it was all Pope all the time.

And, as I have dared to tell you , [as] I told you from the beginning of the Synod, it was necessary to live through all this with tranquillity, and with interior peace, so that the Synod would take place cum Petro and sub Petro (with Peter and under Peter), and the presence of the Pope is the guarantee of it all.

We will speak a little bit about the Pope, now, in relation to the Bishops [laughing]. So, the duty of the Pope is that of guaranteeing the unity of the Church; it is that of reminding the faithful of  their duty to faithfully follow the Gospel of Christ; it is that of reminding the pastors that their first duty is to nourish the flock – to nourish the flock – that the Lord has entrusted to them, and to seek to welcome – with fatherly care and mercy, and without false fears – the lost sheep. I made a mistake here. I said welcome: [rather] to go out and find them.

So, Francis is more Pope now than before.

I think that, in the wake of the Synod, we may see some exercises of papal power.

How shall they manifest?   I’d like to see Pope Francis summarily reconciled the SSPX.  How about a Pontifical Mass in the Extraordinary Form?  How about … use of the fanon and ferula?  He would wear the items that the Roman Pontiff normally wears in the exercise of his duties.   And these things would now enhance, rather than detract from, his pastoral duties.

Finally, I think that His Holiness is starting to feel – in an intense new way – what it really means to be the Vicar of Christ, the Successor of Peter. His role is, in a special, way to affirm the brethren and the uphold the regula fidei … No. Matter. What.


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