“Nobody wants to tell the truth! … They say openly if you don’t convert, we’ll kill you. It turns out they actually mean it.”

Here is a cold cup of reality from former Speaker of the house Newt Gingrich for the viewers of CNN on 8 August:

“Nobody wants to tell the truth,” he complained. “The truth is this is a radical Islamist group. They say openly if you don’t convert, we’ll kill you. It turns out they actually mean it. There’s no complexity… The president couldn’t even honestly describe ISIS last night because it goes against his ideology.”

“Nobody in the American State Department, nobody in the White House, not just Obama, but for three or four administrations, we’ve not had the courage to confront how bad this is, and it’s getting worse.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UTjLTI94AY&feature=player_embedded

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21 Responses to “Nobody wants to tell the truth! … They say openly if you don’t convert, we’ll kill you. It turns out they actually mean it.”

  1. TWF says:

    Yes, no one wants to tell the truth. The Liberal Elite bend over backwards to praise and accommodate Islam. I remember when I was living in Toronto last year, there was a big billboard on the grounds of Old City Hall wishing the city a blessed Ramadan. Meanwhile, teachers are being crucified for simply daring to wish a child “Merry CHRISTmas” in public schools.
    There are millions of good, decent Muslim men and women out there, but we can’t turn a blind eye to these dangerous, powerful, radical elements.

  2. Bea says:

    They didn’t believe Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” either.

    The “Who am I to judge?” mentality makes us disbelief evil from anyone.
    Let us pray we won’t find out the truth the hard way.

  3. Hunter Cuneo says:

    I think Newt should go and fight alongside the Kurds since he loves them so much. [?!?] Before the illegal and unjust invasion of Iraq, 500,000 Christians lived there peacefully. Yes, Sadam was evil, but no more than any other modern secular leader. Certainly the pro-baby killing, pro-homosexual Obama is no better.

    To fight a faith, you must have a faith. And unfortunately, America is faithless. [It seems to me that the faithless are fighting the Faith pretty well.]

    You want to defeat the Mohammedans?

    Our government, media, and major institutions must be purged of their Jewish control. [Jews must be “purged”…? You realize that this makes you sound rather like certain other groups, right?] Holy Mother Church must be purged of the homosexuals within who are destroying it. Abolish the effeminate, protestantized new mass, and you will have millions of strong Euro men rallying behind Our Lord and Our Lady and willing to fight to the death!

    Fight under the banner of Christ The King! Not for feminism, democracy, and equality. Only then do you have a chance at defeating the Islamists. Our ancestors did it in 1099.

    But we cannot work alongside the Judeo-Masonic sects and think we can win this fight.

    [Wow. Here’s the deal. Even if many readers here would resonate with the strong imagery of fighting beneath of the banner of Christ the King, and even if we will agree that we need to know and live our Faith better and more clearly in the public square, you risk being labeled as simply nuts, or worse, when talking about “purging Jews”. As a result, who will take you seriously? Anyone have a different take on this?]

  4. Dienekes says:

    Time to read Kipling’s “Gods of the Copybook headings” again.

    [On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
    (Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
    Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”]

  5. Salvelinus says:

    Everyone. “Hunter Cuneo” oboe is well known on other blogs.
    He (or she) is actually no fan of the Catholic church, and certainly not anything resembling the traditional aspects of it.

    Pay no mind to this man/woman (kid?).
    It is classic “let’s post racist anti jew stuff, and I can go around Patheos and complain about the bigoted readership over at father Zs).

    This is a new tactic of the leftwing. The ultimate Strawman
    Beware.

    [Thanks! Sounds plausible.]

  6. Stvsmith2009 says:

    The media isn’t going to report on this, because it would take away from their being the current administrations cheer leaders. They report anything that they think makes the current crowd look good, and ignore anything and everything that is deemed by them as a detraction. It used to be that the media at least tried to deny their bias, now they don’t even bother. It has gotten to the point I wouldn’t believe the media if they said it was raining until I stood outside and felt it running down my back. I think they have lost credibility with the average person a long time ago, and have little to no chance of getting it back.

  7. Cafea Fruor says:

    As a woman, I’m not sure what’s worse. Being killed by these ISIL animals or being one of the poor Christian (or other non-Muslim) women sold to them as sex slaves, which is also going on over there but not mentioned with the same horror that martyrdom is. Being killed might be easier. At least it ends sooner, and you wouldn’t have to live day by day with that kind of nightmare or live with the memories of seeing your husbands, brothers, and sons outright killed. I think I’d fear that more than being killed, because there’s more of a chance of giving in to despair or of just giving up and converting if you were subject sexual abuse at their hands. And then, for some of these women, there are going to be children that come out of this, and those children are surely going to be taken from their care and raised to be blood-thirsty just like their ISIL fathers. That would be worse than death, I think. Those poor, poor women. What’s going on breaks my heart, and I pray for them often.

    Actually, I wonder if the fact that these radicals keep their wives under lock and key, abuse them physically and emotionally, and leep them uneducated is how they keep themselves in existence. Motherhood has such a huge, formative impact on culture, and if you basically squash women with fear so that they can’t really exercise proper motherhood, that significantly hurts the children and damages their chances of escaping the same mindset, and your blood-thirsty culture just perpetuates itself.

    Prayer, fasting, and personal holiness. That’s the way to win this. It’s not just ISIL. It’s Satan we’re fighting, and ISIL, Hamas, Boko Haram, secularism, and all their ilk are merely his minions.

  8. New martyrs for the Church:

    Three Assumptionist fathers [kidnapped] Friday, Oct. 19, 2012 by the Ugandan rebels of the Allied Democratic Forces (ADF-NALU) operating in the Congolese province in North Kivu, had been “executed there a few weeks ago.”

    “Fathers Wasukundi Anselme, Jean-Pierre Edmond Kisughu Ndulani and the three kidnapped Friday, October 19, 2012 by Ugandan rebels of the ADF / NALU, were killed there a few weeks ago,” reports Radio Kivu 1 (Goma).

    It states that “they refused to convert to fundamentalist Islam by ADF / NALU terrorists; that is why they were executed while Dr. Paluku Mukongoma died two weeks ago following dysentery.”

    Via http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

  9. Juergensen says:

    The wonder is that the media has not taken this opportunity to destroy George W. Bush for the dumbest comment ever by a president: “Islam is peace” (September 17, 2001).

    For an insightful analysis of what Islam actually is, read “Relentlessly and Thoroughly” by British historian Paul Johnson in the October 15, 2001 issue of National Review. An excerpt:

    “It is widely said that Islamic terrorists are wholly unorthodox in their belief that their religion sanctions what they do, and promises the immediate reward of heaven to what we call ‘suicide bombers’ but they insist are martyrs to the faith. This line is bolstered by the assertion that Islam is essentially a religion of peace and that the very word ‘Islam’ means ‘peace.’ Alas, not so. Islam means ‘submission,’ a very different matter, and one of the functions of Islam, in its more militant aspect, is to obtain that submission from all, if necessary by force.”

  10. Sonshine135 says:

    I have to agree with Newt. We are quite a bit deluded in this country. You hear that ISIS is beheading adults and children, but it isn’t but 6 hours later and we are on to something else. We are also afraid in this country of showing this massacre. Why? One of the most popular shows in the US right now is the very gruesome show “The Walking Dead”, so it couldn’t be anything like decency laws. Give me a break. The pictures of these beheadings were visible only on catholic.com. The media doesn’t show it, because they know it will throw support to Christians, and this is strictly against their Pro-Obama, Anti-Christian agenda.

  11. LarryW2LJ says:

    The problem is that we’ve become so politically correct, and so eager to avoid “offending’ people that we have begun committing cultural suicide in order to accomplish that goal. We would rather avoid the truth than upset someone or some group. Unfortunately our enemy (and they ARE our enemy) have no time or sympathy for such niceties.

    It’s way past time for the grown ups to take control of things. You know, the people who do things that have to be done in order to insure the continuity of our society. We need another “Great Generation” not this “Meh Generation” that we have become.

  12. CrimsonCatholic says:

    There are millions of good, decent Muslim men and women out there, but we can’t turn a blind eye to these dangerous, powerful, radical elements.

    I don’t know if that is true. Where is the Muslim outrage at the beheadings and crucifications? Wasn’t the people of Palestine dancing in the street on 9/11? It is becoming clear that the radical element is not a minority.

  13. LarryW2LJ says:

    CrimsonCatholic:

    EXACTLY! I was wondering the same thing.

  14. KM Edwards says:

    I am VERY distressed by the genocide, shoah and holocaust of Chaldean Catholics in Iraq and Syria.

    All the major news outlets would have the world believe that Yazidis are the only minority for which the US is delivering air strikes, the only minority suffering a plight. Yazidis, that’s it.

    No mention on CNN (US), BBC (UK), CBC (Canada) whatsoever of the entire elimination of what was, in 2003, a population of 1.5 million Chaldean Catholics, and today, 11 years after W Bush’s invasion, has shrunk to 400000. Reading these news sites one would be convinced that Yazidis are largely the only massively impacted minority.

    The Patriarch of the Chaldean Catholic Church has provided a run down of the entire impact to the community – you can see this posted on Rorate Caeli today. Several tens of thousands of our Catholic brethren have been driven from their homes and are living and sleeping outside without shelter, without food or water, at the mercy of the elements. Disease and hunger are setting in. Their bishops, priests and religious have all been dispersed, churches desecrated, crosses destroyed and therefore no recourse to the sacraments either.

    To whit, Yazidis are apparently suffering similar atrocities – mass graves showing thousands are being buried alive, beheadings. But why is it so hard for the media to call out that Catholics are being holocausted by IS?

    Please contact your Senators and Congressmen, your MPs and your PMs. Besides air strikes against IS military installations and positions, and the currently miniscule levels of humanitarian aid, we need to provide arms to our Catholic brethren so they can fight and defend themselves. We need to provide a streamlined refugee process to take in those who cannot stay in that war torn region.

    Please contact your diocesan bishops and bishops conferences so we can forge a united Catholic charity service to our Chaldean brethren. I am sure they will need priests and religious, as well as doctors and nurses and teachers for the children. The Holy Father is speaking out somewhat, hopefully he does and says more – our brethren need action more than words.

    Dare I say it – they also need Catholics among us trained in warfare and policing to go there and help them to create some order in their chaos and begin to think about fighting back at IS. Leaning on the Kurds and Iraqi Shias to fight for the safety of Catholic Chaldeans is not a very viable mid to long term strategy.

  15. KM Edwards says:

    @ Hunter Cuneo (since Fr Z asked for other opinions on this individual’s anti-semitic rant)

    Let’s call this out for what it is. Purging Jews is a Nazi term. It resulted in 6 million Jews being mercilessly slaughtered in the holocaust in an epoch that has scarred humanity for eternity.

    It is an evil idea and I suggest, Hunter Cuneo, that you repent of it before you render any further on line posts. May I suggest yesterday’s Gospel reading from the 1962 Missal, where the Lord weeps over Jerusalem? And St Paul’s, the former Rabbi Saul of Tarsus, who wept and loved his people?

    I work with Jews and Israelis and they are decent hard working people with very high standards for their children. I’ve personally learnt alot from them and can only hope I would reach the same height of excellence in raising my children.

    True they have to date for the most part not come to terms with the fact that the Messiah has indeed already come. But with Catholics like you, one can understand it will take longer for them to come to terms with those facts. There is not a single Jewish man or woman alive today who does not have a relative who was slaughtered and “purged” in the Holocaust.

    Our Lady of Fatima told us that war is a punishment for sin. That’s you and me, bunky! Repent, confess your anti-semitism and grow in love of God and neighbour. If you want to explore biblical exegesis on “the sins of the father being visited upon the sons”, remember that even in the Jewish Bible, the sins of the father are visited upon 3 generations after the father. No more. Stop blaming others for your misery and get a grip. Roll up your sleeves and pull up your socks and work for your Catholic brethren.

    We have a real opportunity TODAY, Aug 11, 2014, to work to stop another holocaust, another Shoah, another genocide, another purging. This one is taking place in Iraq and Syria by Islamic jihadists against our Chaldean brethren. Direct your love at them, and fight to defend these defenceless.

    And if you encounter a Jewish friend along the way, learn from them – they tell you what their relatives endured during their purging and help open your eyes to what your Chaldean brethren are facing, things you will never be able to comprehend otherwise.

    May God have mercy on your ignorant soul. And mine.

  16. KM Edwards says:

    @ Hunter Cuneo (since Fr Z asked for other opinions on this individual’s anti-semitic rant)

    Let’s call this out for what it is. Purging Jews is a Nazi term. It resulted in 6 million Jews being mercilessly slaughtered in the holocaust in an epoch that has scarred humanity for eternity.

    It is an evil idea and I suggest, Hunter Cuneo, that you repent of it before you render any further on line posts. May I suggest yesterday’s Gospel reading from the 1962 Missal, where the Lord weeps over Jerusalem? And St Paul’s, the former Rabbi Saul of Tarsus, who wept and loved his people?

    I work with Jews and Israelis and they are decent hard working people with very high standards for their children. I’ve personally learnt alot from them and can only hope I would reach the same height of excellence in raising my children.

    True they have to date for the most part not come to terms with the fact that the Messiah has indeed already come. But with Catholics like you, one can understand it will take longer for them to come to terms with those facts. There is not a single Jewish man or woman alive today who does not have a relative who was slaughtered and “purged” in the Holocaust.

    Our Lady of Fatima told us that war is a punishment for sin. That’s you and me, bunky! Repent, confess your anti-semitism and grow in love of God and neighbour. If you want to explore biblical exegesis on “the sins of the father being visited upon the sons”, remember that even in the Jewish Bible, the sins of the father are visited upon 3 generations after the father. No more. Stop blaming others for your misery and get a grip. Roll up your sleeves and pull up your socks and work for your Catholic brethren.

    We have a real opportunity TODAY, Aug 11, 2014, to work to stop another holocaust, another Shoah, another genocide, another purging. This one is taking place in Iraq and Syria by Islamic jihadists against our Chaldean brethren. Direct your love at them, and fight to defend these defenceless.

    And if you encounter a Jewish friend along the way, learn from them – they tell you what their relatives endured during their purging and help open your eyes to what your Chaldean brethren are facing, things you will never be able to comprehend otherwise.

    May God have mercy on your ignorant soul. And mine.

  17. KM Edwards says:

    @ Hunter Cuneo (since Fr Z asked for other opinions on this individual’s anti-semitic rant)

    Let’s call this out for what it is. Purging Jews is a Nazi term. It resulted in 6 million Jews being mercilessly slaughtered in the holocaust in an epoch that has scarred humanity for eternity.

    It is an evil idea and I suggest, Hunter Cuneo, that you repent of it before you render any further on line posts. May I suggest yesterday’s Gospel reading from the 1962 Missal, where the Lord weeps over Jerusalem? And St Paul’s, the former Rabbi Saul of Tarsus, who wept and loved his people?

    I work with Jews and Israelis and they are decent hard working people with very high standards for their children. I’ve personally learnt alot from them and can only hope I would reach the same height of excellence in raising my children.

    True they have to date for the most part not come to terms with the fact that the Messiah has indeed already come. But with Catholics like you, one can understand it will take longer for them to come to terms with those facts. There is not a single Jewish man or woman alive today who does not have a relative who was slaughtered and “purged” in the Holocaust.

    Our Lady of Fatima told us that war is a punishment for sin. That’s you and me, bunky! Repent, confess your anti-semitism and grow in love of God and neighbour. If you want to explore biblical exegesis on “the sins of the father being visited upon the sons”, remember that even in the Jewish Bible, the sins of the father are visited upon 3 generations after the father. No more. Stop blaming others for your misery and get a grip. Roll up your sleeves and pull up your socks and work for your Catholic brethren.

    We have a real opportunity TODAY, Aug 11, 2014, to work to stop another holocaust, another Shoah, another genocide, another purging. This one is taking place in Iraq and Syria by Islamic jihadists against our Chaldean brethren. Direct your love at them, and fight to defend these defenceless.

    And if you encounter a Jewish friend along the way, learn from them – they tell you what their relatives endured during their purging and help open your eyes to what your Chaldean brethren are facing, things you will never be able to comprehend otherwise.

    May God have mercy on your ignorant soul. And mine.

  18. PA mom says:

    In an online discussion the other day I was ‘schooled’ that Hamas and ISIS are different things, and these are primarily regional struggles, and that the mainstream media HAS been covering this, after all, that’s how they knew of it.
    But the quality of the coverage? Pretty low if they have come to those conclusions.

    Towards the end I was corrected, that ISIS is now wishing to be referred to as the Islamic Empire (or whatever) and so I asked. Was there any clue in that name as to their motivations, did he think? That just maybe this was a religious war being fought, whether or not we enlightened people believe in that stuff anymore? …….

    People are totally unaware that these barbaric punishments are written into the religion. I can’t understand how any credible news source can report on this stuff without making mention of it. Another trouble is that it all sounds like something we have read in a historical novel, not like something that should be happening in this day and age.

  19. JPK says:

    If one enters the cesspool of Middle Eastern politics one must recognize that everything is not as it seems. Yes, Christians lived in relative peace (if there was ever such a thing) under Saddam Hussein. They were fortunate in that he was a totally secular despot who recognized that the Shia majority posed the greatest danger for his regime. Like the Assad regime in Syria, Saddam’s Baathist Party did have Christians in its membership. Whether they were practicing Christians was another matter. Saddam’s Foreign Minister, Terek Aziz, was a Chaldean Catholic. But, regardless of religious affiliation, the Baathists were a brutal bunch. Saddam’s regime was patterned after the Soviet Union. The relative peace of Iraq from the early 1970s to 2003 was the same peace that the Germans enjoyed from 1933-1945, and the Russians from 1917-1991. It was the peace of the jack-boot. Yes, women did enjoy certain privileges (especially the wives and daughters of Baathists) under Saddam; but, so did women in the old USSR. Saddam also had concentration camps for the children of his enemies, as well as rape rooms; he used nerve gas against the Kurds, and practiced genocide against the Swamp Shiites.

    Now that Saddam is gone, his style of “peace” is gone as well. But, we should remember that his regime never fully recovered from the beating it took in 1991. Assad’s regime in Syria was also floundering. Even with Saddam in power, the chances of him surviving were not good. Islam had its reformation in the early 20th Century. But, instead of producing a Luther or a Calvin, it produced a long line of jihadists whose long term aim to is wipe out all forms of heresy. And Secularism is a heresy. Saddam Hussein, and the Assad Family represented Islamic apostates. The battle between the differing groups in the Middle East and elsewhere is a battle for the future of Islam. Both sides tolerate no dissent. The former Baathists have sided with the Sunni radicals; Hamas and Hezbollah are Sunni. They have all drunk deeply from the wells of the Wanabiists reformers of the 1920s. Their form of nihilism is no different than the Nazis whose roots also came about in the 1920s. And they all had or have a deep hatred of Christianity.

  20. SKAY says:

    Juergensen said–

    “The wonder is that the media has not taken this opportunity to destroy George W. Bush for the dumbest comment ever by a president: “Islam is peace” (September 17, 2001).”

    Because Obama says Islam is a religion of peace all the time and he is their guy.

  21. SKAY says:

    “http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/isis-fighter-reportedly-killed-in-gaza-by-israel/#disqus_thread”

    PA mom-
    If the report mentioned on the site above is true than Hamas and ISIS are certainly related at the least.