“Tridetine” Motu Proprio Random Date Generator.

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1. michigancatholic says:

   3 February 2007 at 9:15 PM

   Best insider tip yet.
2. Paul Haley says:

   3 February 2007 at 10:09 PM

   This is really scandalous and it seems Rome has no real concern for traditional catholics with promises, promises, promises and no real action. The Holy Father better realize the damage he is doing to the morale of us all by this delay. Is he trying to make us all sedevacantists?
3. Fr. John Zuhlsdorf says:

   3 February 2007 at 10:12 PM

   Paul Haley: How do I say this delicately, my son…

   SUCK IT UP… WALK IT OFF… OFFER IT UP.

   You know… we can all be drama queens, or we can keep praying and being POSITIVE and showing ourselves to be “men of parts”.
4. Jacob S says:

   3 February 2007 at 10:35 PM

   We must not be obedient to ourselves and our desires. We must be obedient to God first, then the Holy Father. If God, through the Pope, wishes to free the Tridentine Mass for wider usage then He will do it. It is not for us to decide when the time is right, but Our Lord to decide when He wishes to act. To become a sedavacantist now is to say that you know better than God when the Motu Propio should be brought out.
5. Fr. John Pecoraro says:

   3 February 2007 at 10:44 PM

   I tried the date generator and I actually got 2/22/07 Heheheh, no kidding
6. Paul Haley says:

   4 February 2007 at 12:36 AM

   Just for the record I am not a sedevacantist nor would I think of such a thing. I trust in the Lord and in His Providence and I’m certain He will do what is necessary at the proper time. It’s just that the churchmen here on earth sometimes don’t seem to be listening. I can only say with all due respect that I would never treat loyal sons and daughters in the Church in this manner. Pope BenedictXVI could in a heartbeat say simply: “I’m working on it and hope to have it published by such and such a date.” It is simply not a thing that deserves any joking or kidding around in my humble opinion.
7. Tim Ferguson says:

   4 February 2007 at 5:53 AM

   Pope Benedict could, but Pope Benedict hasn’t, and so to worry and weep and wail does as little good as speculating, with all due respect, what one would do if oneself were seated on St. Peter’s throne. (Me, I would bring back the maniple as mandatory liturgical vesture. and canonize Fra Angelico.)

   Perhaps the Pope, or the Holy Spirit acting through him, is testing our patience. Our call is to fidelity, and so we remain faithful, not threaten embracing heresy if we don’t get what we want when we want it.
8. RBrown says:

   4 February 2007 at 5:59 AM

   Pope Benedict could, but Pope Benedict hasn’t, and so to worry and weep and wail does as little good as speculating, with all due respect, what one would do if oneself were seated on St. Peter’s throne. (Me, I would bring back the maniple as mandatory liturgical vesture. and canonize Fra Angelico.)

   Fra Angelico is Blessed, and so his feast can be celebrated.
9. Fr. John Zuhlsdorf says:

   4 February 2007 at 11:04 AM

   RBrown: Not liturgically (for the beatified), unless you are in a place or institute that has permission to do so. One can celebrate liturgically the feasts of saints not on the universal calendar provided the day is a ferial day and the saint is in the current edition (2005) of the Roman Martyrology.
10. RBrown says:

    4 February 2007 at 3:32 PM

    RBrown: Not liturgically (for the beatified), unless you are in a place or institute that has permission to do so. One can celebrate liturgically the feasts of saints not on the universal calendar provided the day is a ferial day and the saint is in the current edition (2005) of the Roman Martyrology.

    I should have been more explicit.

    My understanding is that the liturgical distinction for a Blessed lies in obligation vs place or institute. If there’s obligation, it’s limited to place or institute. If it’s not limited to place or institute, then there’s no obligation.
11. RBrown says:

    4 February 2007 at 3:56 PM

    Also: I think that it’s possible that a feast for a Blessed is both limited to a place/institute and not obligatory.

    By the way, in Aachen the feast of Blessed Charlemagne is celebrated, but I don’t know whether it’s obligatory.

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