Did we really need the Motu Proprio?

Lately we have seen some awful photos of Masses.

For example…



These can be multiplied.

However, here are images from Holy Mass celebrated for the Feast of Sts. Peter and Paul this year at Maria Thann


I thinking that maybe we did. 

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  1. ThomasMore1535 says:

    That last photo of the priest blessing the host and the chalice (which appears to be before the consecration, since he isn’t yet holding his index finger and his thumb together) shows another little-noticed difference between the Ordinary and Extraordinary forms: that in the Extraordinary Form, after the offertory prayer for the host, the paten is put to the side (under the corporal in a low or sung mass, or given to the subdeacon in a Solemn High Mass, who holds it in the humeral veil) and the host rests directly upon the corporal.

    I think this beautifully illustrates the symbolism of Christ’s body being wrapped in the linen after His Death. There’s just something about seeing that host, both before and after consecration, alone, almost vulnerable, on the corporal, that really moves me.

    At the same time, I don’t see a problem with the Ordinary Form’s keeping the host on the paten following the offertory. This can have symbolism as well–it can symbolize the cave that Our Lord was lain in following His death. Also, since it has to be made of precious material, like silver or gold, I think the host resting upon the paten throughout the Liturgy of the Eucharist can also symbolize Christ reigning from His Throne in glory.

    I enjoy both immensely, and am so grateful to the Holy Father for ensuring that both will be preserved.

  2. Timothy James says:

    Beautiful pictures! Where is Maria Thann?

  3. dcs says:

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen a triptych altar card before.

  4. dcs: You will notice the other two pieces of the set are also on the altar.

  5. dcs says:

    You will notice the other two pieces of the set are also on the altar.

    Oh, yes, I did notice those. I know the center altar card typically has three columns of type but I’ve never seen this done on a triptych before. Beautiful.

  6. David Nelson says:

    Does anyone know which Missal that is? It is a very beautiful one and would make a wonderful present for a priest.

  7. Marvellous!

    One can see just based on these pictures how the MP can serve as a bridge to Orthodox-Catholic unity…not to mention how good it will be for the spiritual life of Latin Catholics.


  8. …although I do believe there is an amusing caption here in the making!


    :-) Gordo

  9. Henry Edwards says:

    Does anyone know which Missal that is? It is a very beautiful one and would make a wonderful present for a priest.

    Ditto. If anyone can identify this Tridentine altar missal with colored figures and tell us where one might like it can be purchased, I for one would very much appreciate this information.

  10. Chris Garton-Zavesky says:


    I’m sorry to show my ignorance, but when was the 3rd Confiteor abolished?

  11. Wm. Christopher Hoag says:

    I am not certain, but I think that the missal in question is the SSPX reprint.

  12. dcs says:

    The missal in question is certainly not new; you can see where the corner of the left-hand page has been repaired and you can also see that one of the leather tabs is torn. I would not be surprised if this missal were out of print.

    The pictures are also out of sequence; the middle picture is the consecration of the Host while the last picture is the start of the Canon.

  13. Kim says:

    The first set of pictures makes me cry with grief. The second set makes me cry with beauty.

  14. Juan says:

    The Missal would be one of the typical Pustet Missals from between 1890-1930. It is certainly not new, and one would have to look in antiquarian book stores for such things. The canon tables are (good quality) photocopies of eighteenth century French engravings, which there then stuck to card instead of being framed. If anyone was asking about the “tryptich”, it makes them portable.

    Sadly, canon tables are more easy to reproduce than Missals.

  15. Fr. Scott Bailey, C.Ss.R. says:

    Dear Father and Readers,

    The last picture above shows a beautifully embroiderd RED pall. While I have seen embroidered and painted palls before I have not seen palls that match the vestments as this seems to do. Is this something that was common? Is it unique to Europe or France? Though I realize this is “off topic” any help would be appreciated as I am in the process of having vestments made. If you think it better you may reply to jscottbaileycssr@aol.com

    May our Mother of Perpetual Help keep you in her care,
    Fr. Scott Bailey, C.Ss.R.

  16. Tony says:

    Looking at those last photos, I can almost hear the bells, I can almost smell the smells.

  17. Juan says:

    The pall is French, 18th century, silver thread embroidery on red velvet. It is definitely not part of the set, which is much more recent, perhaps end of the 19th. I don’t think that palls were usually made part of the set. The pall and the vestments belong to different persons, though they happened to go well together.

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