Fr. L … Fr. L… Quid feci tibi…

The esteemed Fr. Longenecker, about whom I have always written kindly in these cyber-pages, has come forth – after a retreat mind you! – with yet another attack on YOU, the readers of WDTPRS.

We will bear this rough treatment, undeserved as it is, with our accustomed restraint. But there a few points to which I – always your advocate gentle readers – must in justice respond.

To wit… his latest offering, here below with my emphases and comments.

Wednesday, February 11, 2009
Eggplant Priest?
After my two priest fashion posts sporting my biretta there was a deafening silence from King Z. and his supporters. [Silence?  Nooo… we laughed and laughed!  Some probably went "tisk" a couple times for good measure.]

Not a word about the splendid photograph of myself with an army of servers surrounding their hatted priest.   [Sed contra, we did post about Father’s (photoshopped?) biretta on 9 Feb., but under this entry.  Could it be that because he did not see his own name he didn’t notice the large photo of himself and our comments about his head gear?  I’m just askin’.]

No evidence of headgear from the ‘Galloping Gourmet’ of priests, (or shall we dub him the ‘Prandial Priest’ or the ‘Culinary Cleric’?)   [ Fr. Z never has need to demonstrate his readiness for the biretta….   o{];¬)   ]

Instead in this post he tells us how to make eggplant parmesan. (‘eggplant’ is another name for zucchini. [!? *] Perhaps this is why he is called Fr.Z). Anyway, in the closing comments of his post he makes a cryptic comment about my attendance at a ‘non ferraiuolo’ dinner

[You see, dear friends?  Quid feci tibi, p. L, responde mihi!  I reveal my openness to inviting Fr. L for a meal, with comments that I would do my best even to improve upon what I had made, and he throws this out.  Very nice!  Very nice indeed!]

Whatever could he mean? Should I be invited to taste one of the good father’s sumptious dinners I would of course appear in my full regalia.  [Despite the indications given in the invitation… oh well.]

Do I have such a ferraiuolo? Do I ever wear it?

Stay tune for photographs that will clinch the contest once and for all…  [In other words, he is trying to borrow one.]

[*] UPDATE: Readers have corrected me: Eggplant is not zucchini. Eggplant is called an aubergine. Zucchini is the same as courgettes. This is one of the problems of being Anglo-American. You say tom ah to and I say tom ay to.


By the way… in his post about being on retreat, we read the following from Fr. L about chosing a view:


Make sure there’s a couple of trees and some bird life maybe.  


Imitation is the highest form of flattery.

And now he has started his own online culinary offerings, though I suspect there may be just a touch of irony involved. 

The things we must bear….

In any event… help WDTPRS in the Blogger’s Choice Awards. 

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Fr. Z is the guy who runs this blog. o{]:¬)
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  1. mrsmontoya says:

    Once more into the breach, dear friends! once more into the breach!

  2. mrs: You know how that line from Henry V concludes, right?

  3. mrsmontoya says:

    Yes I do. I wouldn’t go quite that far though – thinking that way down deep you are both part of the ‘happy few, [the] band of brothers…’

    Do you have a recipe for leeks?

  4. mrs: Other than the leek soup I posted about?

  5. Aelric says:

    Then there are those of us who belong to the LSZNSZ society who have kept our sacred silence in these matters. No longer! What is the LSZNSZ you ask? Lay Society for Zulhsdorf non serviam Zucchini. Ok, that is really bad Latin, but the point is to stand against this veggified innovation amongst the clergy. Solo Fide; Solo Baptisma; Solo Ecclesia; Solo meat and potatoes. Put on the armor of God Pick up the Fork and Knife of Heaven (known by the Normans as a \”new form of dagger\”) and strike a blow for steak & eggs.

    ::ducks and covers::

  6. Chris M says:

    Cleric fight! Cleric fight!

  7. Central Valley Catholic says:

    Who said Trads were no fun…..As we all know, some of the funniest priest jokes are told by priests. Keep up the battle.

  8. James says:

    “Do we all holy rites; Let there be sung Non nobis and Te Deum.”


  9. Lepanto says:

    How could one confuse eggplant and zucchini!?

    On second thought it can get quite confusing. Depending on the circumstances I use zucchini, green squash, courgette, or cucuzza to describe the same thing and eggplant, aubergine or mulignan’ for the other vegetable.

  10. Prof. Basto says:

    For you in Septuagesima I prepared Eggplant Parmesan, and you offer me a recipe of bacon cheeseburgers. / [V.] Pater L, qui feci tibi, aut in quo contristavi te, responde mihi!

  11. Angela says:

    I had meatloaf for dinner last night…who needs potatoes!

  12. Dwight Longenecker says:

    Isn’t cucuzza yet another item of obscure clerical garb?

  13. boredoftheworld says:

    I had meatloaf for dinner last night…who needs potatoes!


    You mean you don’t put mashed potatoes on top of the meatloaf?!

  14. El Gringo says:

    I’d probably throw in some chayote. It is good in soup or can be buttered and baked.

    I once asked the proper name of the skullcap worm by a bishop. His secretary asked him and he said, “I call it my ‘beanie’,” then he called back to say he’d looked it up and told me it is a zuchetto.

    What’s a “ferraiuolo?

  15. Dan says:

    this bantering back and forth is all in fun….right?????

  16. Joan Moore says:

    Well, Fr Z’s eggplant recipe inspired me to do something with eggplant (melongene, here in Trinidad), portobello mushrooms, canned tomatoes and cheese last night. It was thoroughly enjoyed by my husband and son.

    As for the krispy kreme burgers offered by Fr. L – YACK! Double YACK!
    My stomach feels quite upset merely at the thought, much less the picture on his site!!

    Fr.Z is, clearly, away ahead on culinary talent and well as sartorial elegance!!

  17. Ohio Annie says:

    Dan, it’s all in fun until somebody gets a tater tot in their ear. 8-)
    Unfortunately, my aim is poor so I will hide under the table until it is over.

  18. Bobby Bambino says:

    I’m sorry, I’m very slow… this is just witty banter, right? Fr. Z and Fr. Longenecker are good friends, right? I think that’s the case but I can’t quite tell…

  19. Ohio Annie says:

    Yes, Bobby, they are being “smart” with one another. Just duck when the tater tots start to fly. You can hide with me under the table.

  20. Alfredo Fettucine says:

    May the best eggplant win.

  21. Margaret says:

    I’m sure this friendly fight will end in a duel.

    My only question: would pistols or swords be the more “traditional” weapon?

  22. Lori Ehrman says:

    Trads should not be writing for spirit daily…Someone needs to tell Father Dwight…Father Z, I nominate you!

  23. I might have beat Father L. I’m not the only one in my rectory wearing a biretta!

  24. Tina says:

    Obviously Fr. Z hasn’t seen the Crescat’s campaign for best religion blog. You must check out her slogans

  25. RC says:

    As a contrarian, I couldn’t vote for anyone as popular as Fr. Z.

  26. Charivari Rob says:

    Father Z. – “And now he has started his own online culinary offerings, though I suspect there may be just a touch of irony involved.”

    If Father L. actually consumes too many of those (the Krispey-Kreme Cheddar Burger) or too often [or any of these, for that matter: (]*, you might want to see if he has one of these on his wish list:

    Sticking close to the black and the red can be useful – and the rubrics look so easy to follow!

    *Said the pot, calling the kettle black.

  27. Matt says:

    Invite him over for dinner and put it on the webcam!

  28. GOR says:

    Si vultis pacem, parate bellum…

  29. JohnE says:

    Who would make so many Krispy Kreme Bacon Cheddar Cheeseburgers if they weren’t absolutely delicious….and nutritious?! Too bad the Superbowl is over.

  30. mrsmontoya says:

    I am definitely going to watch Brannah’s Henry V tonight.

  31. Paul says:

    Down under, mention of a ‘Longeneker’would be taken as an order for beer in a bottle.

  32. Bill Daugherty says:

    Oh dear. A “Krispy Kreme Bacon Cheddar Cheeseburger” recipe. How will you ever compete with something that goes directly from the mouth to the coronary arteries? Hmm, let me think…Oh, I know! Just wait. Just wait. And perhaps a prayer would be in order.

  33. Stike says:

    Such needless disparagement of the culinary tastes of the beloved Southern Father L is a very harmful blow to North-South Catholic relations. Every true Southerner would quickly pick Krispy Kreme Bacon Cheddar Cheeseburgers over anything with veggies, especially Eggplant. What is wrong with you people? Listening to non-Southerners pontificate on proper cuisine is as bad as listening to Kung pontificate on the SOV2!

  34. Somerset '76 says:

    There’s a gazillion cookbooks out there. But I think Fr. Z could be the perfect one to write one, with his own illustrations….

    The one problem is what should go in black text. The ingredients perhaps? Because if we apply the “do the red” principle there, well that’s all the instructions, so it would be only a few lines of black and whole paragraphs of red.

    Perhaps better minds than mine could work that out.

  35. memoriadei says:

    I would like to see Fr. L and Fr. Z have a cook-off. Menu? Fish and chips. (pass the malt vinegar, please)

  36. AlephGamma says:

    It looks like Fr L has a pic with a ferraiuolo and it does not look photo-chop-chopped.

  37. cuaguy says:

    Fr. Z, he can speak when his servers understand how to keep their surplices
    straight. I mean, if you look at that photo, a little more to the right or
    left, and some of them would have been over some of the servers heads.

  38. irishgirl says:

    Like the Henry V reference….

    ‘Na nobis Domine…” [got Patrick Doyle’s version ringing in my head right now]

    Who says Trads don’t have a sense of humor?

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