Which apps are apt for Apple?

I noted at the site of the young Papist that Apple decided to remove the Manhattan Declaration from their app store.  I noted at the same site that the obviously illegitimate “catholic” group “Catholics For Equality” – a pro-homosexual organization – is going to promote its own smartphone apps.

I wonder if Apple will take the fake catholic homosexual group’s app but refuse to have the Manhattan Project’s app.

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  1. teomatteo says:

    removing an app. is one thing… removing the truth is another.

  2. Jim of Bowie says:

    Please go to Mahattan Declaration site. They want everyone to send emails and sign a petition.

  3. Ted Krasnicki says:

    Apple products have always been more expensive so their customer base is those with higher income. The PC platform after IBM clones were started has always been the poor man’s computer. We know from statistics that certain groups in our society have a higher than average income, and most of these are unlikely to agree with the Declaration. Apple is just protecting its turf here, as it has consistently done for years.
    I do not think Apple will offend those who claim to be offended by the Manhattan Declaration unless a strong campaign is waged against Apple’s decision by those agreeing with the Declaration.
    The culture wars are getting more intense, it seems.

  4. ghlad says:

    The Manhattan Declaration is extremely non-hostile towards homosexuals, even point-blank indicating that “disdainful condemnation” of homosexuals is, of course, to be always avoided. Their striking out against it is like an ignorant child throwing a tantrum.

  5. HyacinthClare says:

    I’ve sent an email from the Manhattan Declaration site. Signed my name to it, too.

  6. Scott W. says:

    I wonder if Apple will take the fake catholic homosexual group’s app but refuse to have the Manhattan Project’s app.

    Don’t bet on it. Apple banged the drum against Prop. 8 in California and barfed up the usual platitudes about diversity in defense. Not that Bill Gates is an archconservative alternative.

  7. markomalley says:

    I wonder if Apple will take the fake catholic homosexual group’s app but refuse to have the Manhattan Project’s app.

    That’s a really silly question, Father. Thanks for the chuckle.

  8. Scott W. says:

    Oops. Make mine “Bet on it”, not “don’t bet on it”

  9. watters says:

    Looks like the Manhattan Declaration website is under a denial of service attack.

  10. BenFischer says:

    Does every cause need an app now? MD has an app, so now LibCathsForDeath need one to even the field? Really? I signed the Manhattan Declaration, and wholeheartedly agree with it, yet was unaware that they even had an app. How could my life have had meaning without it? I can’t even imagine what it did. Let me read the MD on my iPhone?

    These apps tend to be nothing more than re-skinned versions of the website. Every TV news station in town, has one. MD can do the same, can’t they?

    Sorry for the rant, but isn’t there anything important to worry about?

  11. Luke says:

    I am a Catholic first and a Mac user a distant second, but the facts remain:

    1.) It’s Apple’s store to do with what they like.

    2.) An app for just a document and a poll is more than slightly annoying and brings down the quality of the whole store.

    3.) The information is better served as a website, web 2.0 app (like this blog btw), or a PDF. Such a PDF would even be stored in the iBook app on the phone.

    In conclusion, Apple is not evil and this media dust up is a little silly.

  12. Rouxfus says:

    I wonder that they allow iConfess which has a heavy duty examination of conscience in it with sins that would offend the same groups. And iPieta has many of the writings of the Church Fathers, prayers, Papal Encyclicals, Catechisms, the Summa… to name just a few of the things which large groups of people might find offensive.

    If offending large numbers of people is criterion for App Store exclusion, then we should probably get busy and get a petition drive going to complain about apps which are offensive to Christians. For example, The Sims game, which promotes anything-goes domestic arrangments and lets players engage in “woo hoo” – a simulated cartoon intercourse. My ten year old daughter told me she had been playing the game at a play date at a friend’s house, and had gotten married and set up a household with a female character in the game. Had to speak with the other parents about that – and they deleted the game from their kids’ iPad.

  13. Scott W. says:

    Sorry for the rant, but isn’t there anything important to worry about?

    We can walk and chew gum at the same time. It’s one thing to say there are more important things to worry about. Quite another to stick the iPod earplugs in our ears, max out the volume to drown out yet another act by Apple demonstrating contempt for Christians.

  14. Tom Ryan says:

    I regret signing the Manhattan Declaration. What a fool I was


  15. Scott W. says:


    Executive summary: The Manhattan Declaration is a neoconservative plot.

  16. Tom Ryan says:

    Pretty much. Allow a small, visible, and ineffective opposition to abortion and same sex marriage; keep the Catholics from intruding into other areas of public life.

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