You might find this interesting. Nigel Farage, who spearheaded Brexit, addressed European Parliament.
Below is part of the transcript Farage’s speech to the European Parliament on 28 June (FULL HERE):
Isn’t it funny? When I came here 17 years ago and I said that I wanted to lead a campaign to get Britain to leave the European Union, you all laughed at me – well I have to say, you’re not laughing now, are you? The reason you’re so upset, you’re so angry, has been perfectly clear, from all the angry exchanges this morning.
You as a political project are in denial. You’re in denial that your currency is failing. Just look at the Mediterranean! As a policy to impose poverty on Greece and the Mediterranean you’ve done very well.
You’re in denial over Mrs. Merkel’s call for as many people as possible to cross the Mediterranean – which has led to massive divisions between within countries and between countries.
The biggest problem you’ve got and the main reason the UK voted the way it did is because you have by stealth and deception, and without telling the truth to the rest of the peoples of Europe, you have imposed upon them a political union. When the people in 2005 in the Netherlands and France voted against that political union and rejected the constitution you simply ignored them and brought the Lisbon treaty in through the back door.
What happened last Thursday was a remarkable result – it was a seismic result. Not just for British politics, for European politics, but perhaps even for global politics too.
What I’d like to see is a grownup and sensible attitude to how we negotiate a different relationship. I know that virtually none of you have never done a proper job in your lives, or worked in business, or worked in trade, or indeed ever created a job. But listen, just listen.
I like Nigel. He gives straight answers, if not in the best tone, at least he says what he believes. Unlike many British politicians, he has actually ‘had a proper job’, I believe he was involved in the metals trade (not banking contrary to popular belief).
That said, his most recent statement is a little over the top. He should be a gracious winner, despite this being the epitome of his political career.
So often what matters more is what goes unsaid. Something I’m sure we can all agree applies in Religion too…
Can we clone a few hundred of him and put them into our Congress?
GypsyMom – you are welcome to him!
Daniel Hannan, also MEP, at the Oxford Union here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzNj-hH8LkY
Somewhat tangential to these both, John Waters at the Iona Institute speaking about the homosexual vote in Ireland, “Ireland and the End of Debate” here: http://www.ionainstitute.ie/
He is Roman Catholic, and gives a great defense.
But the people he was addressing were at least doing their *jobs* as MEPs, not just abusing their expenses. Mr Farage is not exactly worthy of admiration in my mind.
It’s a political negotiation, not a tea party with the English Lit Dept, so I don’t think he’s out of hand here. The fact is these people are out-of-touch elitists and they’ve been asking for it for a while now. They shouldn’t act shocked when someone calls them out. Just take a look at their latest provocation: http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/683739/EU-referendum-German-French-European-superstate-Brexit
I’m afraid I’m going to be all negative-Nellie here. I hope I will be forgiven, but since Father Z has already quoted Revelation in a post today, I will say that when reading the full transcript I get much the same feeling I have about the swell of support from Conservatives for Donald Trump; it reminds me of Revelation 18.
While I would like to find hope that people are actually waking up and trying to correct the direction we (The formerly-Christian Western Civilization) are taking, it seems it all comes down to economics. I guess for many it’s true; it’s the economy, stupid! Like the merchants watching Babylon burn, people are crying over their lost prosperity, but not about the rejection of God that caused the destruction in the first place. Where were the threats of “Texit” when the Planned Parenthood horror flicks were released, and our Catholic Paul Ryan led Congress completely caved to prevent our tax dollars going to that evil enterprise? Where are the calls for succession to protect our children from the evil gender bender illicit sex agenda? Many Conservatives seem to have no problem with Trump rejecting the NC bathroom bill. They still think he is going to “make America great again!” Did the same people who voted for Brexit vote for abortion and Same-sex ‘marriage’? Like so many here, where have they been while their/our nation embraced the destruction of the family which also more clearly leads to poverty? But have a bunch of illegals getting our tax dollars and it is time for revolution!
Don’t get me wrong. I agree with pretty much everything Farage stated, as far as he went. I agree that we have a right to sovereignty over our borders and to preserve our culture (though I’m not sure it is currently worth preserving). I’m glad Brexit won. I wouldn’t mind hearing some calls for Confederexit! I am a political Conservative, but a Catholic first. I just wish I saw a moral revival unfolding, and not just a way to keep money in our pockets. Until that happens, Brexit will not save the UK, just like Trump will not save the US.
He told us, “Choose therefore life, so that thou and thy seed may live.” Not ‘choose therefore fiscal responsibility…”
Well said! I agree with Gypsy Mom, we need a few Nigels in congress. I would add we need a few hundred Nigels in congress.
It’s quite simple..
If your country….
A) Gives up its national currency for a more centralized one (not the case in Great Britain); and/or
B) Agrees to be governed by an extra-national entity…
Then you are no longer an independent country and your sovereignty is lost.
You are no longer a country… you are merely a “member state”…
Bravo to Great Britain for reclaiming their sovereignty!
Bravo to Great Britain for reclaiming their independence!
“people are crying over their lost prosperity… Not rejection of God.”
I see lots of both. There is little doubt in my mind that the Democratic Party is worse than godless, which would involve less clear direction. No, they seem to have the boat directly headed to hell, while trying to pack it as full as they can along the way.
Do people object to illegal immigrants getting handouts? Yes, they do, for lots of reasons other than just monetary. It is not the role of the federal government to ignore its own laws, worse, to encourage it while shipping people around throughout the country who are breaking those laws and giving them stuff.
It is lawlessness. And there has appeared to be absolutely nothing that can be done about it. Utter and complete lack of accountability for a single person either in or under the “highest office” in the land, within the nation or from outside events.
Trump confirmed that the religious leaders we’re right to expect to be able to live Christian and public lives. Freedom of religion AND freedom of speech. Those are genuinely precious things.
An economic message is important too. The fact is that we can’t all live off of prayers yet and people are being broken by the purposelessness of life which lacks work. It isn’t Just to get all of our things made by people in China swallowing air so polluted it is nearly solid, making dollars a day without vacation. It isn’t good for the environment, it isn’t good for the sovereignty of our country.
And Nigel? Well, said, sir. Well said.
Disagree. Why be gracious with monsters? What he says will be reviewed and analyzed for decades, perhaps centuries; might as well drive the sword deep and twist it. He is trying to slay a beast which is in direct opposition to Holy Mother Church. While he may not be necessarily holy (I dunno), he is an agent on a holy mission; empowerment of national sovereignty against Masonic globalists who desire the destruction of the Faith as a means of supplanting Christ with man. Let us call it modern day Babel.
Agree. But as a Catholic dying of thirst in an arid hell on earth, I’ll take a drop of semi dirty water at the hands of Trump. I figure he buys us four more years of prayer, mass, and catechisms before the real pogrom against faithful Catholics comes along. Confederexit. You know how to how to talk purtty to a Texas boy ;)
My only real anger with Pope Francis was him not reaching out to Trump. Can you imagine trump converting as a devout Catholic? It’d be like Gabriel Moreno or something!
If you’ve ever listened to a Parliamentary debate in the House of Commons, this type of speech is very common. Also, in the past few years of EU debates I’ve watched, the other members sound just like Mr. Ferguson, except that they may be on the other side of the issue. I think we’re not used to this type of debate in the U.S. which is why it startles us a bit. At the same time, it’s refreshing.
Brexit = hagan lio!
I studied the European Union at Trinity College, Dublin, in a law school summer study-abroad program in 2000. At that time, the cranes were rising over the city as far as the eye could see, because of new money form the EU. Now the EU is wrecking vengeance on the countries that took that so-called easy money (think Greece). I’m particular concerned about how the EU has whittled-down anti-abortion laws in member-countries:
Nigel Farage for President!
So Great Britain is free of the European Monstrosity…Great. Now that they’re “free”, I’m sure the British government will get right to work to outlaw abortion and sodo-marriage. Yep.
Ours is a sissified, effeminate age, filled with the odor of the smelling salts that get whipped out every time somebody speaks plainly and forthrightly. When the Eurocrats are busy trying to smother Christendom, it makes no sense to reserve the moral outrage for the guy who calls them on it.
LeGrandDerangement says, “Now that they’re ‘free’, I’m sure the British government will get right to work to outlaw abortion and sodo-marriage. Yep.”
Well, not necessarily, of course. And almost surely not immediately (though astonishing things have been happening quickly…).
And, perhaps it not strictly a sine qua non. But I am reminded by one response I read by an Englishman:”The fact that there is no democratic mechanism within the EU to protest or change this cultural programme of anti-Christian attrition, is one more reasons why many Christians voted to leave the EU. At least when our own Government is passing legislation that discriminates against Christians there is some room for protesting and campaigning for its amendment. When it is promulgated or sponsored by the EU, there is none. All that can be done is for an agency like the Christian Legal Centre, to defend harassed Christians in the Courts in the face of hostile legislation, or legislation that is interpreted in a hostile way.”
A step back in the direction of practical freedom…
Perhaps it’s not quite an apt comparison, but I am reminded of Churchill’s observation, on 10 November 1942, after Alexander and Montgomery turned back Rommel’s forces at El Alamein: “Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”
And he goes on, “I recall to you some lines of Byron, which seem to me to fit the event, the hour, and the theme:
Millions of tongues record thee, and anew
Their children’s lips shall echo them, and say —
‘Here, where the sword united nations drew,
Our countrymen were warring on that day!’
And this is much, and all which will not pass away.”
(Which in turn reminds me of Our Lady’s response to King Alfred, and his response in turn, in Cheasterton’s ‘Ballad of the White Horse’ (q.v.)…
Nothing is guaranteed. But the fact of this resistance is a fact – it may indeed prove to be “all which will not pass away” – but it may also be a step toward more of the same – more resistance, more success (as far as anything is successful in this mutable world).)
“So Great Britain is free of the European Monstrosity…Great. Now that they’re “free”, I’m sure the British government will get right to work to outlaw abortion and sodo-marriage. Yep.”
Nomination for Sour Grapes of the Day award.
I wouldn’t nominate that comment for the Sour Grapes of the Day award. Remember that, in our day and time, wild unsubstantiated claims are made for each candidate and each issue. The comment you nominate merely reminds us that there will be work to do because Brexit gives England a chance, not a certainty. My prayer has been that Our Lady’s Dowry would be returned to her. Prayer is one kind of action, and those closer to the vote will be able to take some other kind of action AS WELL as prayer.
redsaint and PA Mom,
I agree completely, which is why, barring anything worse than his comments on the NC bathroom bill and that nonsense about Planned Parenthood doing wonderful things for women, I will still likely drag myself out and vote for Trump, though without a conversion of the masses, I don’t see it doing a bit of good. I would love to believe he has had a true pro-life conversion and all his pandering to Christian Conservatives will actually sink in and have an impact on his faith, thus inspiring him to use the office, should he win, as a bully pulpit to help turn us around. I’m afraid I find it difficult, but who knows? I really need to pray for him more. After all, I was just reading up a little on King David, and look how he started! All things are possible with God.
Anita Moore, O.P (lay), I don’t know if I am the one, or one of the ones you are scolding, but since I’m one of the few with anything negative to say on the matter, I think there’s a fair chance I am. So, to be sure, I certainly have no moral outrage toward Farage. Again, I agree with him, as far as he takes it. Still, where has Farage called the EU out for ‘smothering Christendom’? Truly, if he has, that’s wonderful, but I have only seen them called on smothering the UK and Europe financially and culturally, and in light of the many anti-Christian policies they have put in place, I don’t see how preserving the present culture is preserving Christendom at all. That is my point. Immigrants, legal or not, are not the biggest threat to Christendom; leftists and their useful idiots in our own nations are. That is where my moral outrage is aimed. And at so called conservatives/right wingers who don’t seem to give a hoot about morality, so long as their fiscal situation is addressed…. I don’t know enough about Farage to know if he fits in that slot or not. Again, it isn’t that I disagree with what Farage has said, and I rather like the way he’s said it, but if he was calling anyone out for ‘smothering Christendom’ he wouldn’t need to go to the EU. He could start in the British Parliament. LeGrandDerangement has it right. But let us hope and pray that Venerator Sti Lot does also, and it really was a step in the right direction. I’m afraid reading the comment section of the Daily Mail doesn’t encourage me, but perhaps you are right and Farage will lead that revolt now he has found success in this one.
Nigel Farage in my opinion is a heroic man, what he has been put through and his stamina and dedication are worthy of anyone’s admiration.
He is also the most consequential polititan in the UK, and the single most important political figure since at least the 1990’s, possibly even since Churchill. Given that he is not even in parliament only makes his achievement more significant and impressive.
I really wish that so many people here, who very obviously haven’t got a clue about European politics, let alone the very complicated relationship between the UK and Europe, would just stop! Leave it alone, you just don’t understand. I’m in Ireland, but I do know all about it. I work with the EU institutions, in a very hands-on way, in the energy market. Curate’s egg, good in some parts. And we’re working to keep the good parts, and maybe bring it back to what we, and the UK (and Denmark) joined on 1.1.1973, which was then called the “Common Market”. So, Brexit, yeah, we’re already working with that. They haven’t even invoked Article 50 yet. But you knew what that meant. So, we’re working around it. And we’ll keep doing that. Free people, free trade.
The EU has had no love for anything Catholic, because two electrons cannot occupy the same orbit. The EU is a trans-national union of disparate people that seeks to be not only a supranational body, but with a codified catechism of abortion, gay marriage and transgenderism. They seek to eradicate the traces of Catholicism where they can. Farage is a hero. It is his time to shine and it is good to see him finally get his long deserved kudos.