When you vote WATCH THE MACHINE!

From CBS Pittsburgh:

Voting Issues: Some Trump Voters Reporting Ballots Switching To Clinton

CLINTON TOWNSHIP (KDKA) – Today is Election Day and for the most part, voting has been smooth.

Many areas are already seeing long lines with some officials saying they wouldn’t be surprised if voter turnout topped 80 percent.

However, there have been some scattered issues where voters are encountering problems.

Election judges in Clinton Township, Butler County confirmed there were issues with two of their eight automated voting machines. Most of the issues came when people tried to vote straight party ticket.

However, other said they specifically wanted to vote for Republican Donald Trump only to see their vote switched before their eyes to Democrat Hillary Clinton.

“I went back, pressed Trump again. Three times I did this, so then I called one of the women that were working the polls over. And she said you must be doing it wrong. She did it three times and it defaulted to Hillary every time,” Bobbie Lee Hawranko said.


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  1. bar3 says:

    We had paper ballots. This way you can’t tell when they tally your vote in the wrong column.

  2. APX says:

    I take it you don’t vote by secret ballot in the US?

  3. iamlucky13 says:

    Paper ballots can be recounted. Pennsylvania specifically rejected electronic voting machines that are paired with paper records that the voter can verify the accuracy of before submitting. Also, from what I’ve heard, refused to let the source code they’re programmed with be examined to ensure they’re appropriately secure and reliable. Oops.

  4. AvantiBev says:

    As a life long C(r)ook County, IL resident and former poll watcher nothing surprises me. But you don’t have to be a fellow Chicagoan to have watched the undercover video of DNC operatives that O’Keefe’s moles recorded during a year of working there. The violence that happened at the U of I aborted Trump speech right in my ‘hood last Spring was carefully orchestrated and then bragged about on video by an operative called “Aaron Black”. I guess I should be happy if I can make it in and out of the polling place without a similar goon orchestrating some such.

  5. majuscule says:


    Just visited the link.

    Oh great! They’re binging in the FBI!

    I’m soooo relieved…

  6. majuscule says:

    Oops, was supposed to be Michael_Thoma

  7. pseudomodo says:

    He he he


  8. un-ionized says:

    Apx, the ballot is secret. If there is a problem, there are poll workers trained to deal with them.

    My voting machine had a touch screen. First it has to be activated by a poll worker inserting an electronic key in a slot. Then she made sure I knew how to use the screen and reminded me that the software does not let you validate your vote until you go over it again at the end. As you cast each vote it makes a rrrr-rrrrr sound and prints your vote on a paper tape that you can see through a little window.

    The voting machine has sides that fold out so nobody can watch.

  9. un-ionized says:

    Apx, I neglected to mention that the poll books here are paper. When you arrive they find your name and address in the book and there is a copy of your signature from your drivers license. You sign the book and they make sure the signatures are the same (don’t use your food store credit card signature).

  10. SKAY says:

    Louisiana voting machine logged votes before polls opened. Dead Democrats voted early and often.
    They have been doing that for a long time in Louisiana.
    Those of us who are alive and Republican do have to show our ID to vote.


  11. iamlucky13 says:

    The link from Michael_Thoma is not even remotely a dismissal of the claims. CBS reports that *local* officials confirmed the problems. Meanwhile, Times Leader says a *county* official (apparently not present at the individual polling stations) dismissed the problems because technicians sent to inspect the machines later did not observe vote flipping.

    That response is not very re-assuring.

  12. Anne C. says:

    We DEFINITELY need voter reform!!! I’m glad someone finally mentioned the O’Keefe videos, which should never be able to be refuted! There has been election fraud going on, as one of the Dems there proudly proclaimed – “for 50 years, and we’re not about to stop now!!!” Even if some of the people were fired or resigned, you know a lot of it still goes on!

    My polling place had formerly used the paper ballots that you then slid into the boxes that looked like shredders (never to be seen again . . .!), but this time, they had a new method. We still have the same paper ballots, but this time you feed your own ballot into a scanner (as far as we know!), and a computerized “wheel” spins around until it reads “100%,” supposedly meaning that your ballot was counted. The ballots were two-sided, and I deliberately put the Presidential side down when I fed my ballot into the machine (there was a poll worker standing right there), so how do I know whether it really read both sides – or either one, for that matter?

    And I didn’t have to show any type of ID, which I would have proudly done, if asked! A few months ago, while our son was overseas, we received a Voter Registration Card in the mail at our home address, with his first name, but an entirely different last name! I called the proper officials here, and was asked whether he had registered at a particular spot (where we have our local DMV, etc.), because she said that they had been having “a lot of problems from that place!” I didn’t get off the phone until she could assure me that there were only 3 of us, with our correct last name, registered at our address!

    While I was there today, at least one person came and registered right at the polls – legal here, of course (“Minnesota – the state where everything is allowed . . .”)! The opportunities for fraud are legion, and we need to straighten out this process!!!

    Oh, and they replaced our paper “rolls” with something digital, which faced away from the voter. She asked me my name, address, etc., without checking on it, then passed me on to my own school district. (There were School Board elections that did not show up on the sample ballot I had seen online, so I had no way to prepare! I just whipped out my phone and Googled each candidate, using the only readily-available information I could find quickly, their campaign finance reports, and made my decisions from those!)

    I like the other machines mentioned above, where you can see your own vote being tallied, and catch it if it is incorrect. But do you do that in front of another person?

  13. Nan says:

    Anne C., Little Mogadishu here. The lines were ridiculously backed up because despite the city a) having voting information sessions ahead of time, and b) sending out mailers to new voters, instead of letting the lines flow, people were showing their ID although registered to vote. Then, once receiving the vote card, the line to get the ballot was moving very slow because they asked everyone, even pale people with midwestern accents if they’d voted before and explained at length to those to whom voting was a mystery, what the procedure was. I found that quite irritating; an older Somali woman said something I didn’t understand but I agreed with her. I asked a younger person what she’d said and she was grousing about the slow process. Which is what I expected.

    Did Card. Burke send a crack team of exorcists to WI? Because, impossibly, the news is claiming that Trump will take the state.

  14. Prayerful says:


    Dream big and bold and daring!

  15. Anne C. says:

    Nan – I went at a time when it wasn’t crowded – @ 1pm. Still, there was a gentleman sitting by the entrance who spoke to me, and I didn’t understand him at first, but he was asking me if I had voted at such-and-such a school last time, which I had. This was the 1st general election our precinct voted at this location, so I’m assuming that was why he asked. He repeated it to each person who walked in. Later, when I was seated at an open table Googling the School Board candidates, he came up to me to ask if I had shown my driver’s license when I came in (we don’t have to here yet, but I wish we did!)! It turned out that someone who must have been registering at the polls had left her license there. (Did I look like her?!) If there had been any kind of a line, that would have driven me crazy!

    It’s nearly 2 am here, and the last I saw, MN was still “too close to call.” It would indeed take a major exorcism or some miracle for MN to go red!!!

  16. Anne C. says:

    My husband just told me that, just as I walked away from the screen, Trump had gone from 254 electoral votes to 272!!! And that Hillary was calling him!!! Thank you, God!!!

  17. wanda says:

    Thank you, dear God. Thank you Blessed Mother, Thank you, St. Jude.

  18. Anne C. says:

    Disregard the above. She decided not to concede tonight, and my screens still show Trump at 254.

  19. remindme says:

    CNN: Clinton conceded the race after 2 a.m. ET.

  20. Bruce says:

    Trump is the President!

    It’s the end of the world as we know it… and I feel fine!

  21. MichaeltDoyle says:

    Keep praying for our country. Tremendous opportunity here to bring out the pro life message and pro religious liberty. I don’t think it has penetrated the public consciousness yet about what the government is trying to do to the Little Sisters of the Poor. Conscience rights needs to be a big issue.

  22. pseudomodo says:


    1. Cubbies win the Pennant
    2. Trump wins White House
    3. Cardinal Burke elected Pope?

  23. remindme says:

    I am grateful about the result. However, in the end it changes nothing. Politics will eventually follow the culture, and our culture is far from being redeemed. If anything, this only underscores our need and duty to evangelize, which would have been our duty anyway, even if the result were otherwise.

  24. Filipino Catholic says:

    The lesser of two evils has been chosen, it seems. Granted, he does have points where he could be weighed in the balance and found wanting, but then our trust was never meant to be put in mere mortals anyway.

    If anything, this election seems to have revealed just how deep the cracks and fault lines run in the culture, how very divided those U.S. of A. have been for who knows how long. The weather forecast for the Navicella in America: rough seas ahead. Batten down the hatches.

  25. Augustine Thompson O.P. says:

    “Dewey defeats Truman!”

    Let us pray that the newly elected does not renege on his promises about judges.

  26. AnnTherese says:

    In the darkest times, God offers us gifts and invitations– may we keep our minds and hearts open to receive them.

    “All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.” Julian of Norwich

  27. pelerin says:

    Two headlines from this side of the pond.

    Daily Telegraph (GB): ‘Dear God – America what have you done’
    Liberation (France): ‘Trumpocalypse’

  28. Ellen says:

    I’m happy but I don’t think this will change things all that much. I’ve been watching Netflix’s excellent mini-series The Crown and one of the story threads is how difficult it is to change things. Even Queen Elizabeth wasn’t able to have her first choice for private secretary because things were done in a certain way and even though you are the Queen, you have to go along with it.

  29. un-ionized says:

    remindme and Ellen are seeing the big picture.

  30. MrsMacD says:

    As my 10 year old put it,” We have to pray for Trump.”

  31. WVC says:

    Let’s not throw any sour grapes around. This is a day that we should rejoice in. That which we KNEW was manifestly evil was defeated. We’ve been given the gift of four more years within which it is reasonable to hope there will be no increase in the persecution against the Church and no increase in the selling out of our country to the Globalist demands. The hoary and quite wicked liberal establishment has been rocked back on its heels. It’s not dead, but to see the comments and stories it is apparent that the shock is genuine. They’re even talking about secession – which I would FULLY support (subsidiarity at its finest!).

    We have four more years to work, pray, and try to fix the mess which is ultimately ours to fix. Let’s rejoice today and get to work tomorrow.

  32. WVC says:


    Your 10 year old is correct. Pray for him everyday. My family and I prayed for Obama everyday for 8 years. We were prepared to pray for Clinton everyday for the next 4 years (or however long her health would allow her to stay in office). Having to now pray for Trump instead is no loss on my part!

  33. robtbrown says:

    Filipino Catholic says:

    The lesser of two evils has been chosen, it seems. Granted, he does have points where he could be weighed in the balance and found wanting, but then our trust was never meant to be put in mere mortals anyway.

    I don’t look at it that way. Moral judgement about any candidate doesn’t enter into my decision. There have been pro abortion politicians who were great family men–and anti abortion politicians who were not.

    There are various policies that I favor (including nominations to SCOTUS). My vote goes to the one who seems to represent those policies.

  34. robtbrown says:

    Should be:

    There are various policies that I favor (including nominations to SCOTUS). My vote goes to the one who seems to represent more closely those policies.

  35. Chris Garton-Zavesky says:

    Let there be sung Non Nobis.

    Perhaps we’ll be able to show the world a peaceful Walk for Life in January,…. and prove just how peaceful the pro-life position is?

    As to the election of Cardinal Burke, perhaps it’s worth noting that the office isn’t vacant.

    To quote (or, probably, paraphrase) our esteemed host, “Ride the damn bike!”. A Trump victory gives us room to work, so it’s time to get that work started.

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