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This is truly horrific. Satan himself is behind this.
Sancte Michael Archangele, defende nos in proelio, contra nequitiam et insidias diaboli esto praesidium. Imperet illi Deus, supplices deprecamur: tuque, Princeps militiae caelestis, Satanam aliosque spiritus malignos, qui ad perditionem animarum pervagantur in mundo, divina virtute, in infernum detrude. Amen.
Well, refugees from these countries really have no chance now, since Trump has banned them from entering the US– signing their death warrant. And he did this on the day of Holacaust Remembrance and March for Life. Gotta love this “pro-life” president.
This is horrific.
I hope the President shares his secret foolproof plan from with the generals very soon. “I know more about ISIS than the generals do, believe me.” November 2015
AnnTherese, and Hillary would have doubled the amount of Mohammedans entering the US; now THAT would have been GREAT for the side of life and peace!
“signing their death warrant”
1. No, Muslim extremist were the cause of the many deaths of the refugees.
2. Many Muslims supported the Nazis.
3. Religious minorities from these countries will be allowed to come here as refugees.
AnnTherese, I was part of the United Nations program last spring on genocide in Syria (that is, in the background, helping the organizers, though I spoke at other events there). Both the UK and the US Congress (thanks to the Knights of Columbus) actually voted to call this what it is – genocide of Christians and Yazidis), a word that it is VERY difficult to get any government to use officially rather than colloquially. And I know that everyone I have dealt with is very very grateful that Trump has SPECIFICALLY EXEMPTED persecuted minorities from the refugee sanctions. Others will have to be properly vetted after a longer wait.
Several family members have needed to get visas to European and South American countries for longer than the 90-day tourist visa, and my goodness! What a lot of red tape and waiting! Fingerprints and letters from the FBI that they aren’t criminals, medical records, financial records and statements that show they won’t take a job from locals, etc. etc. etc. Letting refugees in danger of their lives be fast-tracked while others wait to be vetted seems in line with what we experience elsewhere.
In reply to CrimsonCatholic:
“signing their death warrant”
1. No, Muslim extremist were the cause of the many deaths of the refugees.
Yes, that’s why the refugees were seeking refuge in the US which they have now been denied.
2. Many Muslims supported the Nazis.
3. Religious minorities from these countries will be allowed to come here as refugees.
Woefully unjust and likely illegal. And is this even realistically feasible? What kind of bureaucratic scrutiny will be required to determine what a traveler’s religious beliefs are before allowing them to walk out of an airport? What if they’re non-practicing, lapsed, agnostic, or a new convert? Are they still turned back?
Pope Francis: You can’t defend Christianity by being ‘against refugees and other religions’
New Amsterdam: “Religious minorities from these countries will be allowed to come here as refugees. Woefully unjust and likely illegal.”
Why “illegal”? Under ALL the asylum laws of the US, the Refugee Acts, etc. people fleeing religious persecution are ALWAYS – ALWAYS – named as one of five protected classes. In the LAW itself. Look up any one of the acts.
As to “what kind of scrutiny” – the persecution of Christians and Yazidis has been officially declared “genocide” so religious refugees fleeing countries practicing genocide certainly fit under the description. These are the people that are thrown off refugee boats and drowned by other refugees. These are the people who spoke with such courage at the United Nations at the genocide conference there.
As for your last comment, There is NO QUESTION about lapsed, agnostic, etc. That is worse than a straw man attack, it is a straw son – a position obscurely descended from one never held to begin with.
Giuseppe: No plan is foolproof. No doubt Pres. Trump and the military chain-of-command knows that.
That said, news reports are, for whatever reason, circulating. Here’s an excerpt of one report from Fox News yesterday:
“The Navy’s top admiral is looking at ways to stage special operations forces, rocket propelled artillery known as HIMARS, M777 artillery systems, Apache helicopter gunships and Marine and Army soldiers aboard large amphibious assault ships to be able to go ashore to Syria to fight ISIS.
The U.S. military wants to keep options “light and agile” and not build forward operating bases inside Syria like they did in Iraq and Afghanistan years ago, officials familiar with the planning tell Fox News.
New Defense Secretary James Mattis told lawmakers in his confirmation hearing earlier this month that he would be looking at ways to accelerate the fight against ISIS inside their headquarters in Raqqa, Syria.
At the start of combat operations in Afghanistan in the weeks after the 9/11 attacks, similar basing of US special operations forces off shore occurred.”
Crimson Catholic: Good points. Your #2 is not a non sequitur as New Amsterdam claims. David Pryce-Jones has a chapter on Nazi influence on Islamism and Middle East society in general in his book “The Closed Circle.” Certainly the Koran, the Hadith, Ibn Tamiyya, alBana, Qutb, etc. are the prime influences, but muftis visited Berlin around 1941 and picked up an idea or two. By the way, there was also Communist influence (the Baath Party for example).
New Amsterdam: Hope my brief comments here at the end of my workday help you.
Mary: Well said.
JARay and Elizabeth D: Well said.
Christians are being slaughtered because of their faith by Muslim terrorists. Finally we have a President who cares about what is happening to them along with the safety of U S citizens.
Muslim women and children are quite capable of being terrorists–as the article Father Z posted shows so bringing them in without proper vetting is not OK. There is a reason CAIR (muslim brotherhood affiliated) is upset that we actually will be vetting those coming into this country
from countries where terrorists are active and able to infiltrate into the immigrants coming into this
“While the administration of Trump’s predecessor Barack Obama significantly increased the number of Syrian refugees allowed into the country, an overwhelming majority of these were Muslim, despite the Islamic State’s systematic attempts to convert or kill both Syria and Iraq’s Christian population. In June 2016, for example, the United States accepted a record number of 2,300 refugees from Syria. Eight were Christian. As a presidential candidate, Trump made the case that the number of Christian refugees being accepted into the United States was too low, while the number of undervetted Syrian Muslim refugees could pose a danger to the safety of U.S. citizens.”
I was not clear enough that I was replying to the AnnTheress, my 2nd point was not a non sequitur since she brought up the Holocaust. As to my third point:
1. Federal asylum and refugee law already require a religious test. All aliens seeking asylum in this country must establish a religion, especially if they are being persecuted. So it is lawful, feasible, and a reality.
2. The US resettled 13,210 Syrian refugees. Only 77 were Christian (0.5 percent) and 24 Yazidis. Christians were 10 percent of the population, or 2.2 million people in Syria. Clearly Muslims were favored over those that were actually being persecuted by ISIS and others in the region.
3. Obama stopped Iraq refugees from coming for 6 months in 2011, and stopped all Cuban from coming two weeks ago! This has been done before and is legal.
4. Finally most refugees come from UN camps, which have documented ISIS gangs that round up the non-Muslims to rape, beat, and abduct them. So there is a potential to bring in ISIS supporters without a better system in place.
You know, I’m watching this video and thinking…well, perhaps it’s best if I comment much on what I would like to see happen. Suffice to say, I don’t take kindly to watching grown men being bound, then hunted, then shot…by kids.
If this sort of thing keeps up long enough, we might be compelled to either send in troops or send lots of rifles, pistols, and ammunition.
As it seems they already have an effective war over there, it’d be nice to see those who’re opposed to ISIS having a greater ability to fight back.
I watched that video. I guess I’m of a different breed. Things like blood, guts, brains, and violence don’t bother me.
Honestly, what more can be said?
Those who refuse to study islam, deserve to live under it.
That video… That’s coming to a school near you.
Those kids are the future. Future Boston Marathons. Future Nice, France. Future Orlando Night Clubs. Future London Bombings. Future Beslans…
Those kids are victims. They have been robbed of their childhood and brainwashed into becoming hateful and violent. They are held hostage by ISIS.
The commonly held belief that Muslims are evil is tiresome. ISIS is an extremist subset, a cult within a religion. You know that. You may not want to believe it, but you know it. It’s sinful to judge an entire religious group by its weakest members. The Muslim people I know value peace and treating others with respect. They are not violent. They are not terrorists. They are trying to live their lives, just like us.
Well– “us” is relative, too. There are Catholics and other Christians who, in the name of their religion, or despite their religious beliefs have killed, also. They are extremists. We have a President who will have a hand in what this video portrays. He peppered prayer all over his inauguration, but does any of it make a difference in how he will “rule?” (He appears incapable of “leading.) He claims to be Christian, but where’s the evidence?
Stop demonizing Muslims. It makes you look ignorant and intolerant.
AnnTherese: There is a lot more to Islamism than ISIS. You have a lot of research to do. I too know peaceful Muslims, but you seem not to be aware that Islam has about a billion adherents with different perspectives and different methods of applying their beliefs.
Your insistence on hectoring with strawmen and ad hominem rather than attempting a persuasive and civil argument is quite noticeable. Your last two sentences are remarkably unChristian. Unfortunately, your comment bears a striking resemblance to numerous comments that I have seen on pagan websites which I monitor.
I will remember you in my prayers that you may find calmer emotions and increased wisdom on this complex and important topic. Have a pleasant day.
“Stop demonizing Muslims. It makes you look ignorant and intolerant.”
I cannot agree that anyone here has demonized Muslims, AnnTherese.
If anything, I’m reminded of the threat posed by an “Islamic state” in the time of Peter the Great. Islamic armies sometimes raided into southern Russia, killing some, but also taking many captive, especially young boys. Though such children had been raised as Catholics or Orthodox to that time, they yet had learned little of faith; they could be easily “converted” to Islam, enslaved into the Islamic army, and trained to be warriors. If they lived long enough to reach adulthood, they posed as great a threat to Christians as any “cradle Muslim” would have been. If ISIS has victimized these children, such does not mean they will be any less violent as they grow older.
I am reminded of a quote from John Adams to his wife. In short, he commented that he must study war, that his sons would have freedom to study philosophy. They should do so, that their sons might study music.
We certainly must recognize the tragedy and the humanity of these children. We should never view this as cause to lay down our arms. These children–and those who inspire or cajole them–will not cease to hunt men or shoot people merely because we insist that we refuse to fight.
Semper Gumby, your comments are telling of someone who struggles with truth. But regarding my statements you judged as unChristian: You might be aware that admonishing sinners and loving our neighbors (especially those we deem enemies) are expectations of Christians?? Not pagans, Christians.
My prayers are with the children represented in this video whose lives have been stolen and destroyed, who are suffering psychologically and spiritually, at the very least. And for all who are suffering and will suffer at the hands of Trump and his minions. I’m even praying for Trump (whom I do consider an enemy), who I believe is very ill, deeply wounded, and so far in over his head. He reminds me of a cornered, frightened animal or child; I can imagine that deep inside, he is very frightened, indeed.
AnnTherese: The classic comedic phrase “Alrighty then…” comes to mind here. Your first sentence is simply an ad hominem (the “struggling with truth” is a tired trope of the Left). Please refer to my previous comment for an assessment of the quality of your “admonishment.”
I am pleased to note that your prayers are with the children of this video. One wonders why you did not express that sentiment in your first comment in this thread. Rather, it appears that you exploited this post and video to make a snide comment about Pres. Trump. And in your most recent comment you chose to end it with invective against Pres. Trump.
I sincerely wish you the best as you cope with the Trump administration. If you are interested in insightful reading on the topic of Fr. Z’s post here I will be happy to recommend some. Have a pleasant day.
AnnTherese. Either take in a Muslim family into your home, or be considered a hypocrite. If you are willing to sacrifice your money, home, food, heat, and convenience, maybe even you and your family’s safety and security, then one could at least say you are willing to put yourself and your family on the line for your sincerely held values.
If not, give us a break. You sound like every other liberal who has frankly, no idea what you are talking about, but who talks about it nonetheless. We’ve heard this stuff a million times from a million liberals. This is one major reason President Donald Trump is in office, and for that we thank God. We can’t leave our nation’s security in the hands of people who share your view on this. We just can’t afford that kind of risk.
Actually, Kathleen, I have brought Muslims into my home. And Mexicans, and people with drug addictions, and people who have made terrible choices that landed them face down in poverty. These are the people for whom Catholic Worker houses exist. For several years I lived with and offered love and care to people that society– including most Christians –can’t treat with dignity, much less help. Never felt unsafe, btw.
Your turn: How many women considering abortions have you assisted through their pregnancy? Or how many babies have you offered to bring into your home, to save them? It sounds like you can’t stand hypocrites, so I look forward to hearing your story of how you helped the unborn at risk.
I care about the poor, the immigrant, the unborn, and all humans at risk– and I back that up with my money, words, and actions whenever possible. You called me a liberal who knows nothing. You can relish your anger, Kathleen, but I’m no enemy of yours. I’m just trying to be Christian. And that doesn’t seem to go over so well here.
“ISIS is an extremist subset, a cult within a religion. You know that. You may not want to believe it, but you know it. It’s sinful to judge an entire religious group by its weakest members. ”
Evidently the Crusades were fought for nothing against this peaceful religion that had we just permitted everyone to convert(by force usually)the world would be a better place by now.
Read the Quaran ? Ok. ISIS is THE most extreme but Islam itself is extreme and sick. Don’t think so?A handful of peaceful Muslims is like a handful of Catholics who don’t actually practice their faith.The tried and true PRACTICING Muslim views you as an infidel.We can discuss it.Anyone who thinks Islam is a just a different form of a religious people is badly mistaken.
As for Pres Trump having prayer peppered all over his inauguration-there was a reason behind the optics.Christianity has been under attack from the Obama administration for the last 8 yr. Yet,you consider our President the enemy.Pls join your liberal comrades on the other side.I’m one of his,what you referred to as his,minions.You’re horribly insulting.We get enough of that from the SOROS minions creating mayhem.They’re the problem,not him.
Here’s a test: Name ONE Muslim country that permits the practice of Christianity.Just one. I’ll wait.
Oh my. Boxerpaws63: A test? For what? Geeesh. Turkey, but they’re dwindling. So, what’s your point? Does this prove for you that all Muslims are horrible? Do you want America to become intolerant of other religions, too? I have studied world religions, including Islam. I know and work with, and have lived with, Muslims who are kind, caring, non-violent, prayerful people– who have talked openly about their religion. I know that that not all Muslims are like this. But– this is my point, and what a ridiculous conversation it had turned into…
Not all Muslims are bad. Or good. Not all children who are Muslims are being trained as killers– only the most unlucky ones. Not all Christians or Catholics are good. Or bad. It’s simply not black and white. And while I know I won’t convince you of anything, nor will you change my mind– I value a blog like this as a place to share our thoughts even if they differ. At least we agree on one thing: Prayer at the inauguration was just “optics.”
Also, I don’t think the Crusades were our best moment…
I’m signing off this conversation now– someone else is welcome to have the last words if needed. I’m happy to get verbally beat up for what I believe, but it’s a new week, and my attention needs to be elsewhere now. So go ahead (like we’re in cars, where we can get away with uncivil behavior)– say what you please. I can take it.
AnnTherese: “I’m just trying to be Christian. And that doesn’t seem to go over so well here.”
Perhaps you could try that bit harder, then, and stop coming on with snide statements like the above, and the strawmen. Kudos to you for your genuine charity, in all sincerity, but we don’t need the little passive-aggressive asides. Thank you.
AnnTherese, I think it laudable that you have taken the steps you have regarding unborn children and those who’ve suffered. I should caution you though, if you think the views of people here are intolerant, un-Christian, whatever, …you might check yourself too.
Out of all the howls of rage regarding the assessments that We, the People of this nation make, I notice these howls never admit that ISIS and other groups don’t see the world that way. We may insist that Islam is peaceful all We wish; so long as ISIS views it differently, We and others will be compelled to fight. Or suffer mass martyrdom.
“Also, I don’t think the Crusades were our best moment…”
Sadly, this has the vibe of the typical jab against Catholics/Christians because we don’t wish to admit to the whole of what history reveals. If the Crusaders fought horrible battles, it’d be wise to recognize the foe they fought. You might recall that Augustine, a famous saint of the Church, wrote from Hippo, in Northern Africa, which is now dominantly Islamic. Such came about because of … Islamic conquest across all of Northern Africa, even reaching into lands which are now Southern Spain. …If I recall correctly, other Islamic armies also invaded into lands which are now Southeast Europe and Southern Asia.
Armies with the same militant intentions also threatened the Eastern Church, originally centered around Constantinople. If you’ll recall, the Crusades came about in no small part to help defend the Eastern Church against expected aggression from some of those Islamic armies.
In our “modern” days, we seem eager to find fault with Catholics, but turn a casually blind eye to the Islamic aggression of those eras. I think this grossly intellectually dishonest.
I would like to think that modern-day Muslims would be willing to be peaceful, to have honest debates. Sadly, when Pope Benedict attempted to begin that dialogue in Regensburg, …much of the Islamic world threw riots.
I don’t follow how we can be demanded to behave as though everyone had peaceable intentions when we’ve seen demonstrations of violence after our spiritual leaders challenge the Islamic world to better understand what they’re own faith might be alleged to teach.