UPDATED – But, apparently, the REAL problem in the Church today are those Catholics who want the Traditional Latin Mass – VIDEO

UPDATE 13 Feb 22:

Originally Published on: Feb 9, 2022

I have had experience with Canadian Sulpicians. I was unimpressed. No. I’ll revise. I was very impressed, but not in a good way.

Frankly, I think a lot of the problems in the Church in these USA stem waaaay back to Sulpicians seminaries. Just a working theory.

BUT.. this is Paris, and a church that I rather like, for the fact that it was built by Sulpicians who seem to understand what it is to be Catholic. No more, it seems. How very sad.

Apparently the REAL problem in the Church today are those Catholics who want the Traditional Latin Mass. This isn’t troubling at all.

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  1. donato2 says:

    Apparently it is not just new Mass Catholicism that has the problem. The video suggests that Muslims too have devolved into the clap-happy.

  2. summorumpontificum777 says:

    ‘The drivel of the heretics, both priests and laymen, is tolerated; the bishops tacitly acquiesce to the poisoning of the faithful.? But they want to silence the faithful believers who take up the cause of orthodoxy, the very people who should by all rights be the joy of the bishops’ hearts, their consolation, a source of strength for overcoming their own lethargy. Instead, these people are regarded as disturbers of the peace.” – Dietrich von Hildebrand, The Devastated Vineyard (1973).

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  4. Kathleen10 says:

    That is claiming it for Islam, is it not. At least the appeasers could remove the crucifix of Our Lord so as not to offend Him by having Him present for such an offense. It’s always the same. Catholics who have lost the faith if they ever had it and want to tear it all down to match their lack of faith.

  5. Joseph says:

    The Sulpicians run my archdiocese’s seminary. It does explain a lot!

  6. Venerator Sti Lot says:

    Jeanne Smits has an article providing considerable detail. If any of this possibly constitutes desecration, who is likely to address that properly?

  7. APX says:

    Isn’t it a grave sacrilege/blasphemy to recite the Quran from the ambo? I feel like this church has been desecrated since they are literally professing the Muslim faith, which is what the first chapter of the quaran is.

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  9. B says:

    Didn’t Paris get a new bishop recently?…

  10. rtjleblanc says:

    I wonder how many Muslims would be OK with us reading the first chapter of the Gospel of John in a mosque.

  11. misanthrope says:

    From the Act of Consecration of the Human Race to the Sacred Heart:

    “Be Thou King of those who are deceived by erroneous opinions, or whom discord holds aloof, and call them back to the harbor of truth and unity of faith, so that soon there may but one flock and one Shepherd. Be Thou King of all those who are still involved in the darkness of idolatry or of Islamism, and refuse not to draw them all into the light and Kingdon of God.”

    The Sulpicians have clearly taken to heart Francis’ recent remarks which included everyone into the Communion of Saints. Our dance card says ‘Pachamama and Islam good – Traditional Catholics not good. Dancing around the altar good – Mass of the Ages not good.’

    Who, pray tell, danced at the foot of the Cross?

  12. PostCatholic says:

    You should see the reactions when I’ve read from the Gospel of John in a Unitarian Universalist church.

    Is it against Catholic faith to merely read another religion’s scripture, or to quote from it say in a sermon, inside a consecrated church? Or is it prohibited in the context of Mass or another liturgy? Is it the Q’uran specifically that’s the problem? Could a Jewish text such as something from the Talmud or Mishnah be acceptable? What about non-canonical Christian literature, e.g. Shepherd of Hermas?

    No dog in this hunt, just trying to understand the objection better.

  13. Fr. Charles A. F. says:

    I was hoping you wouldn’t find out about this… I’m truly ashamed. I confronted one of the Vicars General about this, and informed him that Saint-Sulpice is now a Mosque. For some reason, he thought I was joking.

  14. Son of Saint Alphonsus says:

    So perhaps William Cardinal O’Connell, onetime Archbishop of Boston, did a good thing when he expelled the Sulpicians from his seminary and archdiocese— and kindly requested they take their dead with them!

  15. (oops, the comment I posted just before this one was supposed to go in a different article )

    The organ at St. Sulpice is legendary and utterly massive. Not only does it have over 100 stops, but it is also renowned for being exceptionally laid out on the inside, to make it really accessible for both tuning and the egress of its majestic tones. Truly one of the greatest organs in the world.

    However, the design of its case on the outside is actually rather… sketchy. I have seen an analysis of the case that praises it as an adept model of the Masonic temple of humanity. It has left me shocked to think that such an anti-Christian edifice glorifies the grand Catholic Church of St. Sulpice.

    Is this latest scandal with the Muslims the logical consequence? Probably.

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