ASK FATHER: The words of absolution during confession in Latin?

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

Given that Traditionis has prevented the faithful in some areas from continuing to experience the old ritual forms for the Sacraments, the question arose; what is the approved Latin for the Ordinary Form prayer of absolution the priest says in confession?  I suspect there’d be some people out there like me who’d ask their pastors to consider giving it in Latin.

The Latin for the post-Conciliar form:

Deus, Pater misericordiarum, qui per mortem et resurrectionem Filii Sui mundum Sibi reconciliavit et Spiritum Sanctum effudit in remissionem peccatorum, per ministerium Ecclesiae indulgentiam tibi tribuat et pacem. Et ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis in nomine Patris, + et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti.

Recently a new translation of the prayer of absolution, to be implemented next year. was released.

NEW VERSION:

God, the Father of mercies,
through the death and resurrection of his Son
has reconciled the world to himself
and poured out [Latin: effudit] the Holy Spirit among us for the forgiveness of sins;
through the ministry of the Church may God grant [Latin: tribuat] you pardon and peace,
and I absolve you from your sins
in the name of the Father, [sign of the cross] and of the Son,
and of the Holy Spirit.

And here’s what the prayer was now/before:

God, the Father of mercies,
through the death and resurrection of his Son
has reconciled the world to himself
and sent the Holy Spirit among us for the forgiveness of sins;
through the ministry of the Church may God give you pardon and peace, and I absolve you from your sins
in the name of the Father, [sign of the cross] and of the Son,
and of the Holy Spirit.

If a priest says, “poured out” and “grant” now, it is valid.

If, later, a priest says, “sent” and “give” it will be valid.\

I’ll now ask the big question.

When was the last time you heard these words, in English, Latin or any other language?

GO TO CONFESSION!

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Francis weakens the Opus Dei “personal prelature”

We read today at Acistampa that Opus Dei which has been a “personal prelature” will no longer be able to have a bishop as its prelatial head.

Instead, the head of the Opus Dei will be a Protonotary Apostolic Monsignor (the highest sort). In fairness, a PA Monsignor is a “prelate”.

Implications:

First, despite the early talk about decentralizing power from Rome, what we have seen again and again is concentration of more and more control in Rome.  If this reign of Francis is about anything, it is about centralizing control.

Second, the structure of the “personal prelature” was often thought of as a solution for traditional groups, including the SSPX.    This, therefore, does not bode well for any traditional group.  In other news, water is still wet.

Third, this could also smack of caudillo-like revenge: more and more it seems that members of Opus Dei are not entirely thrilled with all that Francis does.

Fourth, if there was a suggestion in the texts of the Council that there could be structures like Opus Dei, it seems that the “spirit of Vatican II” disagrees.  But you have to have gnostic-like secret knowledge of the “spirit of V2” to manuver through the special accompaniment that Opus Dei is receiving.

We are all walking together now toward a new springtime.

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Archd. Washington… more cruelty from Gregory for people who desire Traditional worship.

I’m picking this up late, so I will limit to linking and a couple comments.

At The Pillar: Tomorrow the Archdiocese of Washington DC? will announce the implementation of Traditionis custodes in the capitol see, restricting the Extraordinary Form to three locations, and requiring all priests to obtain permission to celebrate the Ordinary form ad orientem.

Gregory’s letter accompanies a seven-page policy which outlines restrictions on the celebration of the Extraordinary Form in the Washington archdiocese.

SEVEN PAGES?

He has contempt for you.  Never forget that.  They fear the older form of Mass because of the emphasis on sin, propitiation, and conversion.  They hate the people who desire the older form of Mass.   Both, the rite and the people, make them think bad thoughts about the eschatological joy they would rather assume everyone merits.   And, I think, when it comes to these bad thoughts, they have a lot of help.

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“Forward!” he cried, showing them the crucifix, “Victory is ours.” – St. Lawrence of Brindisi

Today on both sides of the Roman Rite we celebrate a Bishop and Doctor of the Church, St. Lawrence of Brindisi.

Know much about him?

I like this story about him from the Catholic Encyclopedia:

It was on the occasion of the foundation of the convent of Prague (1601) that St. Lorenzo was named chaplain of the Imperial army, then about to march against the Turks. The victory of Lepanto (1571) had only temporarily checked the Moslem invasion, and several battles were still necessary to secure the final triumph of the Christian armies. Mohammed III had, since his accession (1595), conquered a large part of Hungary. The emperor, determined to prevent a further advance, sent Lorenzo of Brindisi as deputy to the German princes to obtain their cooperation. They responded to his appeal, and moreover the Duke of Mercœur, Governor of Brittany, joined the imperial army, of which he received the effective command. The attack on Albe-Royal (now Stulweissenburg) was then contemplated. To pit 18,000 men against 80,000 Turks was a daring undertaking and the generals, hesitating to attempt it, appealed to Lorenzo for advice. Holding himself responsible for victory, he communicated to the entire army in a glowing speech the ardour and confidence with which he was himself animated. As his feebleness prevented him from marching, he mounted on horseback and, crucifix in hand, took the lead of the army, which he drew irresistibly after him. Three other Capuchins were also in the ranks of the army. Although the most exposed to danger, Lorenzo was not wounded, which was universally regarded as due to a miraculous protection. The city was finally taken, and the Turks lost 30,000 men. As however they still exceeded in numbers the Christian army, they formed their lines anew, and a few days later another battle was fought. It always the chaplain who was at the head of the army. “Forward!” he cried, showing them the crucifix, “Victory is ours.” The Turks were again defeated, and the honour of this double victory was attributed by the general and the entire army to Lorenzo.

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Here is what the Martyrologium Romanum has:

Sancti Laurentii de Brundusio, presbyteri et Ecclesiae doctoris, inter Fratres Minores Capuccinos adscriptus, praedicandi munere in Europae regionibus indefesse functus est, tum pro Ecclesia defensione adversus infideles, tum in reconciliandis principibus, tum in Ordinis sui moderatione, omnia munera explens simplicitate et humilitate.  Die vero vigesimo secundo iulii Ulyssipone in Lusitania obiit.

How about your own, smooth but accurate rendering into English (or Klingon… whatever)?

Speaking of St. Lawrence of Brindisi, a priest friend texted this to me today:

Let’s picture a Latin Mass crusade to the Vatican. If we have enough priests and faithful, we could storm St. Peter’s without the aid of violence. Is the Swiss Guard going to oppose a full number of the faithful United in this way. Let every priest come vested with his servers through the main door with everything needed for mass. Then, each priest goes to an altar predetermined by one master plan. When he finishes mass the next priest up for that altar says mass. We keep the crusade going round the clock until all the priests participating have celebrated at least once. Then we leave peacefully.

Is it feasible? What canonical penalties might result for individual priests invading St. Peter’s in this way?

I believe St. Lawrence of Brindisi would support a tactical crusade to the Vatican at this juncture in church history.

¡Hagan lío!

“Forward!” he cried, showing them the crucifix, “Victory is ours.”

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Daily Rome Shot 510, etc.

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Last night during the evening “reception”, when we just hang out and talk, I trotted out my Leviticus 3:16 shirt, which caused some amusement.   I said I would post the link:

3:16 isn’t just in John.

In other news, yesterday, International Chess Day, Magnus Carlson announced that he would not defend his World Champ title.  Now Ian Nepomniachtchi (#2 at the Candidates in Madrid) and Ding Liren (#3) will play each other.   Magnus isn’t pulling a Bobby Fischer.  He is still going to play chess and chase that 2900 rating.

Disappointed? I am. However, I sort of get Magnus’ position, but I would like to see him play. He says that he wouldn’t enjoy the format and that he other concerns.

Meanwhile, 50 years ago, it was a rest day in Reykjavik.  Coming up on the 23rd will be the famous Game 6.

From Chess.com, the puzzle today.  Be careful!   Go the wrong way and white wins.   Find the right move and black forces victory.

Black to move.

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VIDEO: A young person’s message to the Cardinal who shut down her Traditional Latin Mass

A message to bishops… specifically Card. DiNardo.

Longer version HERE

These bishops are hurting people.  That’s precisely the goal that some of them have: they don’t like the TLM, but even more they don’t like the people who like the TLM.

Become a CUSTOS TRADITIONIS!

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Day 1-2: Oglebay Conference for Priests

I’m attended the St Paul Center for Biblical Theology’s conference for priests in WV. This is a great annual event and I look forward to it. This year the theme is “Be Strong And Courageous”. Also, we are focusing on the Gospel of Luke and Acts. The two fit beautifully together because of the theme of God’s covenants with, first, Abram (Gen 15), Abraham (Gen 17) and Abraham’s seed (Gen 22).

Priests can sign up to watch videos of these talks!

They always have a great bookshop. Very tempting.

Can’t help but include this.

Over 230 priests from 85 dioceses.  It is a big crowd.  Many first timers.

Not everything is about Luke or Abraham, though much ties back.  The Faith is a whole, everything interrelated.

The sound of a couple hundred priests sing a verse of the hymn for “evening prayer” (Novus Ordo).

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Meanwhile, 50 years ago today Boris Spassky vs Robert James Fischer in Game 5. Result? 0-1. Fischer won with black (Nimzo-Indian Defense: Huebner Variation. Main Line). There was fierce behind the scenes fighting going on over the issue of cameras and who had the right to film and movie rights, etc. One of the demands Fischer had made after Game 4 was that the pool in the building complex be closed to everyone but him, because someone had mistook him for an employee and complained that there was no soap in the showers. Also, Fischer had demanded that the size of the squares on the board be reduced from 2 1/2″ to 2 1/4″. I recently hunted up some pieces for a board someone gave me. I have to admit that the size of the pieces in relation to the squares does make a difference. Last night at this conference for priests which I am attended, a few guys decided to use the large outdoor chess set for a game. It was a little strange seeing it on a board that large, though I admit that the diagonals really popped out. Anyway, 50 years ago, Fischer prevailed in Game 5, winning with black to leave them tied at 2 1/2 to 2 1/2. A recap of the game HERE.

BTW… Happy International Chess Day!

White to move and trap the poor, wayward King.

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If you want some fun…

3:16 isn’t just in John!

In Reykjavik, 50 years ago today, it was a rest day.  Robert James and Boris Vasilievich would be back at it tomorrow, Game 5.

Black to move.. and obliterate.

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VISUAL CONTRASTS in Chicago… remember the TLM must be suppressed in favor of…. what, exactly?

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