ASK FATHER: A priest asks, can we use the English translations in Weller’s 3 volumes to bless things, etc., in the Extraordinary Form? Here comes the BAD NEWS, Fathers.

IMPORTANT UPDATE:

I don’t know what I was thinking.   I must have had a monsignor moment.

There is now available the great Parish Ritual which conforms to what was in force in 1962!   I posted about it HERE (and there is a newer edition).  This is a replacement for the old Collectio.

US HERE

The first version had a few corrigenda, but nothing severe.

If you are looking for a CHRISTMAS GIFT for a priest… this is it.

ANOTHER UPDATE:

As per a comment, below in the combox (my emphases):

2. The Rituale Romanum, Title 8, Chapter 1 gives the general rules for blessings. These are also presented in Weller, vol. 3, pp. 2-5. Note that n. 2 states: “Both constitutive and invocative blessings are invalid if the form prescribed by the Church is not observed.” I read that to mean that a priest saying the English text out of Weller is not observing the proper form required by the Church, i.e., the Latin text, and that a blessing attempted with the English text out of Weller would be invalid. (I mean, of course, according to the laws regulating the Extraordinary Form which require doing what was in force in 1962, which was to use Latin.)

Yes, I think this is right.   We know that God can do what he wants, but I know that we have to do what the Church says.

Fathers… are you trying to bless Holy Water using the ENGLISH from your volume of Weller?  What you have there might be Special Water or Peculiar Water but I don’t think you have Holy Water, according to the mind of the Church.


From a priest…

QUAERITUR:

Is the Rituale Romanum, published in 3 volumes by Fr. Phillip Weller via PCP, allowed for praying the Latin prayers through Universae Ecclesiae? I am trying to get better at the EF, and would like to be able to use the prayers in these books, but I wasn’t sure whether UE allowed me to use this particular set.

The short answer is: No.

Let’s see why.

For readers in Columbia Heights… Universae Ecclesiae, the 2011 Instruction from the Pontifical Commission “Ecclesia Dei“, states that

35. The use of the Pontificale Romanum, the Rituale Romanum, as well as the Caeremoniale Episcoporum in effect in 1962, is permitted, in keeping with n. 28 of this Instruction, and always respecting n. 31 of the same Instruction.

No. 31 has to do with ordinations, so it doesn’t concern this question.

This same question comes up about the Collectio Rituum issued in 1964, which has Latin and English. I wrote about at length HERE.

In 1962, the Collectio that was in force was the 1961 edition.

The 1961 Collectio accords with the 1954 and 1959 permissions which granted limited use of the vernacular. In 1959 the Sacred Congregation for Rites permitted, in these USA at least, vernacular for sacraments excepting exorcisms, sacramental forms and blessings, and some other moments, such as prayers after funerals.

The 1964 Collectio gives wider use. The 1964, however, also says that forms of sacraments should be done in Latin.

However, we can’t use the 1964 Collectio with its wider permission for the vernacular.

“Weller”, in three volumes, is really handy, because it has English translations side by side with the Latin from the Rituale.  It has been reprinted.   US HERE – UK HERE

BUT… Weller’s volumes would have to be used in keeping with what was in force in 1962.

MOREOVER… Weller’s original work was done in the 1950’s and his translations are not the translations that were later approved for use.

So, Father, if we are doing a baptism in the traditional rite, there some things that we can do in English, but the exorcisms and the anointings and baptismal form must be in Latin.  The “churching” of the mother is to be in Latin.

If someone comes to you with statues and medals and rosaries or a car to be blessed, you are to bless in Latin.

The brilliant Matthew Hazell provided online a visual copy of the 1961 Excerpta e Rituali Romano, the British equivalent of the CollectioHERE  By the way, his Index Lectionum is invaluable as a preaching resource.  I am grateful for his work every time I pick it up which is often.  US HERE – UK HERE  Anyway,  the translations of the Excerpta and the Collectio would be different, but they were both approved.

Also, while the 1961 Collectio is really hard to find, the Excerpta is online and the Excerpta would indicate what must be in Latin (most everything of greater importance) and what can (not must) be in English.  In the decree of the Excerpta we read “The use of English is not to be extended in any way to the recital of prayers, blessings, etc., beyond what is strictly determined in the foregoing. ”

So, no, we cannot use just the English side of Weller for blessings and most rites.   It wasn’t an approved translation, and it doesn’t indicate which part must be in Latin and what can be in English in the rites.

I know that some priests may find this a little disappointing.    Weller is useful for understanding the Latin… but if you want to do something in the Extraordinary Form from the Rituale Romanum STOP USING WELLER for blessings and so forth.

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#ASonnetADay – 105. “Let not my love be call’d idolatry…”

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USS Bonhomme Richard to be decommissioned and scrapped. Link to some history, including priest martyrs of the French Terror.

I once wrote a rollicking post about priests who were martyred in the French Revolution, sent to die horribly on a “hulk” ship, the Bonhomme Richard, used as a prison off the coast of France.  HERE

Bonhomme Richard is perhaps not the best name for a ship.

Here is melancholy news about the 3rd of our vessels named Bonhomme Richard, Wasp-class LHD-6, an amphibious assault ship.   844 feet long and 106 feet at the beam.  The first  – captained by John Paul “I have not yet begun to fight!” Jones – sank in 1779.  She was, by comparison, 152 by 40 and a depth of 19.

From Navy Times:

Navy will scrap fire-ravaged Bonhomme Richard

The U.S. Navy will not repair the amphibious assault ship Bonhomme Richard, which burned for more than four days this summer in San Diego.

In the end, resurrecting the devastated large-deck amphib would have been too costly, Rear Adm. Eric Ver Hage, commander of the Navy Regional Maintenance Center, told reporters Monday.

The extensive damage to the flattop’s flight deck, island, mast and lower levels from the July 12 inferno would have required about 60 percent of the ship to be replaced, Ver Hage said.

To rebuild and repair the 22-year-old amphib would have cost between $2.5 billion and $3.2 billion, and would have taken five to seven years, he said.

To turn the stricken amphib into a hospital ship would have cost more than $1 billion and taken the same amount of time, he said.

Details on where the ship will be decommissioned and scrapped are pending, he added.

[…]

Hmmm… maybe the hulk of USS Bonhomme Richard could be repurposed for the “housing” of graffiti sprayers, business looters, police car burners, statue vandals, Antifa and BLM thugs, and people who cheated and committed voter fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election.  They could have a little productive time in the healthy sea air, doing some clean up, in preparation to be sent back to do more clean up in the cities they tried to ruin.

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ACTION ITEM! #GivingTuesday suggestions from @FatherZ

Americans are generous.  Catholics are generous.  We are hard-wired to help.  We are especially interested in concrete ways to help, not vaporous.  We are also a more than a little concerned about how the money we contribute is used.   I sure am.

Here are suggestions for your donation dollars.  I have full confidence in these groups.

First, the TMSM, the Tridentine Mass Society of the Diocese of MadisonCLICK HERE  This also a 501(c)3 organization.   I am the president for some years now.  We have over the years been building a good treasury of vestments.  One day a cathedral will be built here (the old one burned – arson) and we will have worthy vestments for pontifical ceremonies.  In the last year three more parishes not have stable TLMs.  Donations have come in from readers all over the country.  In turn, I firmly believe that the work of the TMSM, made known through this blog, has helped to inspire people in other places to get organized.   We depend on you and I am grateful for the help.  What we are doing, I believe, helps to raise the tide that helps all boats to rise.   I just received a new Solemn Mass set in violet, and I hope in the next year for a new gold set for Pontifical Masses.  Forward!

Next, year in and year out I have recommended a clinic here in Madison, Our Lady of Hope Clinic.  OLHC It is run entirely on Catholic moral principles and it provides health care for the poor.  I go there. I contribute.  CLICK HERE  The average cost of a visit to OLHC is approximately $80.  A gift of $150 pays for nearly 2 doctor’s visits for a uninsured patient. Please CLICK HERE to watch the short video message from Bishop Hying.  The Clinic is trying to expand.    I have a strong sense of goodness when I go there.

Also, would you also consider giving support to the Archdiocese for Military Services (AMS)?   CLICK HERE Chaplains play a mission critical role for our troops and their dependents.  Remember that the families of those who are serving are also under the AMS, wherever they are.  The Archdiocese for the Military is a complicated operation.  Your support will help them provide spiritual care for people who are giving their lives to serve.  Over the years the time I have spent on bases has given me explicit demonstrations of how appreciated chaplains are and how important they are.  For example, during some months ago I subbed at Naval Station Guantanamo Bay.  At the chapel, at the hospital, around and about, many young people wanted to engage.  Support the AMS and support Catholic chaplains, seminarians and candidates for chaplaincy.  Also, I know of your support for chaplains.  You proved help when my friend Commander Johnson lost all his vestments when they airplane we had both been on went into the river on landing in Jacksonville.  You donated and had travel vestments made for him.   RIGHT NOW the goal is to raise $40,000 for the Archdiocese for the Military Services, USA (AMS), and your support is needed! The first $6,400 received will be matched dollar-for-dollar.

Let’s keep our support going, and tell them Fr. Z sent you!

 

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#ASonnetADay – 104. “To me, fair friend, you never can be old…”

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ASK FATHER: Does the SSPX “exercise legitimate ministries” or not?

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

I appreciate all of your hard work on the topic of the SSPX and just your whole candid approach to speaking clearly about topics that are otherwise ambiguous. I attend the SSPX frequently and have had nothing but wonderful experiences. I wanted to get your take on Pope Benedict and his letter to the Bishops about the remission of the excommunications and his heavy language about the priests “not exercising any legitimate authority” etc. I noticed you had a mini podcast on the letter itself but I wanted to see if in light of the changes under Pope Francis do those changes of themselves remove the weight of the letter from Pope Benedict? This letter is commonly sited by friends and peers that otherwise would in good faith attend the SSPX Chapels but due to the letter being from a Pope (at the time) it has a level of weightiness that lay faithful feel in their guts where the topic generally feels so confused. So to spear head this… Does the letter of Pope Benedict simply reflect the status at the time** and not presently and if it does can we arrive at the conclusion that we can dismiss that letter (with respect) due to Pope Francis’s actions and PCEDs statements? God Bless you and myself and many others thank you deeply.

The 2009 DECREE by which Benedict XVI remitted the excommunications of the SSPX Bishops HERE

Note that the decree says, “This gift of peace, coming at the end of the Christmas celebrations, is also meant to be a sign which promotes the Universal Church’s unity in charity, and removes the scandal of division.”

Remove the “scandal of division”… we still hope and pray.

The LETTER from Benedict to the Bishops HERE

I wrote two posts about the SSPX which can help people understand the situation more clearly than it is often explained by others, who tend not to know what they don’t know.  HERE and HERE

Since the publication of Benedict XVI’s letter a lot has taken place.

For one thing, faculties were granted by Francis to priests of the SSPX regularly (not exceptionally) to receive sacramental confessions and to absolve validly.  That’s a “legitimate ministry” in the Church.

For another thing, Francis made it possible for SSPX priests to have the faculty to witness marriages, so that they have proper form.  SSPX priests can work with dioceses in this regard.  That’s a “legitimate ministry” in the Church.

If you say that Francis is the Pope and that he has the authority to do these things, then, yes, the SSPX now exercises ministries legitimately and conditions described by Benedict in his Letter back in 2009 no longer apply… fully.  Something has changed.  Not everything.  Something.

The canonical situation of the SSPX is really complicated.  It doesn’t easily fit into one category or another.  As a result, we have to remind ourselves to look on the SSPX with the benevolence heralded by Benedict’s Letter and also discipline ourselves to see the SSPX as an evolving canonical anomaly.

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NOTA BENE! FINAL DAY 30 Nov. – Special Decree extends opportunity for Plenary Indulgence for Poor Souls through whole of November

30 November: FINAL DAY

The Church’s senior tribunal, which handles all matter of the internal forum and indulgences, the Sacred Apostolic Penitentiary, has issued a decree about the annual opportunity to gain indulgences for the souls in Purgatory in time of COVID.

Right now the decree is only in Latin, Italian and German.

In effect, because of the Wuhan Devil, the SPA has extended the indulgence in the Enchiridion Indulgentiarum (conc. 29, §1) for the whole month of November.

The plenary indulgence granted for visited a cemetery to pray for the dead from 1-8 November, is extended to other days of the month as the faithful choose.

The plenary indulgence for 2 November for the faithful who visit a church or oratory and recite an Our Father and the Apostles Creed can be transferred to the previous or following Sunday or to All Saints or even on another day of November as the faithful choose.

The elderly or sick or those for some reason cannot leave their dwelling, even because of a government lockdown, can obtain the plenary indulgence.  Provided that they are completely detached from sin and have the intention of fulfilling as soon as possible the three usual condition of sacramental confession, Holy Communion and prayer for the intentions designated by the Pope,  the obtain the plenary indulgence by praying before an image of the Lord or the Blessed Virgin pious prayers for the dead such as Lauds and Vespers from the Office for the Dead, the Chaplet of Divine Mercy, or other prayers for the dead, or meditate on a Gospel passage proposed by the Liturgy for the Dead, or do a work of mercy by offering their pain and discomfort to God.

The SPA strongly urges priests to provide the Sacrament of Penance and Communion for the infirm.

The SPA reminds about the document of 19 March about the Sacrament of Penance in time of pandemic.

The SPA warmly invites all priests to celebrate Holy Mass three times on 2 November, in accordance with the 1915 Apostolic Constitution Incruentem altaris of Benedict XV.

The decree was signed on 22 October, the Feast of St John Paul II.

D E C R E T U M
Vertente anno, propter pandemiam morbi “covid 19”,
Indulgentiae plenariae pro fidelibus defunctis totum
prorogabuntur per mensem novembrem,commutatis
condicionibus piisque operibus, ut christianus populus in
tuto sit

Ad hanc Apostolicam Paenitentiariam complures Sacrorum Pastorum
supplicationes nuper pervenerunt, quibus postulabatur ut vertente anno, propter
epidemiam morbi “covid-19”, piae commutentur operae ad plenarias lucrandas
Indulgentias, animabus in Purgatorio detentis tantummodo applicabiles ad
normam Enchiridii Indulgentiarum (conc. 29, § 1). Quam ad rem eadem
Apostolica Paenitentiaria, de speciali mandato Ss.mi D. N. Francisci Pp., libenter
statuit ac decernit ut, ad vitanda concursa, nonnullis in nationibus et territoriis
vetita vel saltem dissuasa, vertente anno:

a.- plenaria Indulgentia pro pie visitantibus coemeterium et, vel mente
tantum, pro defunctis exorantibus, singulis octo diebus, more solito a primo
usque ad octavum Novembris tantum adfixa, pro fidelium utilitate, in alios dies
usque ad octo, etiam seiunctos, intra mensem Novembrem transferri possit, a
singulis fidelibus libere eligendos;

b.- plenaria Indulgentia, diei II Novembris, in Commemoratione omnium
fidelium defunctorum adfixa, pro pie visitantibus ecclesiam vel oratorium ibique
“Pater” et “Credo” recitantibus, non tantum in diem Dominicum antecedentem
aut subsequentem aut diem sollemnitatis Omnium Sanctorum transferri possit,
sed etiam in alium diem intra mensem Novembrem, a singulis fidelibus libere
eligendum.

Senes, infirmi omnesque qui gravi causa domo exire nequeunt, ex. gr.
decretis prohibentibus, ut fedeles frequentes in loca sacra conveniant, plenariam
consequi poterunt Indulgentiam, dummodo, animo voto sese iis sociantes, qui
pias egerint visitationes, de quibus supra, concepta detestatione cuiusque peccati
et intentione praestandi, ubi primum licuerit, tres consuetas condiciones
(sacramentali Confessione, eucharistica Communione et oratione ad mentem
Summi Pontificis), coram quavis imagine D. N. Iesu Christi vel Beatae Virginis
Mariae, pias pro defunctis preces recitaverint (ex. gr. Laudes et Vesperas Officii
Defunctorum, Rosarium Marianum, Coronam Divinae Misericordiae aliaeque
preces pro defunctis christifidelibus magis caras), vel Evangelii lectionem e
Liturgia Defunctorum ad modum lectionis spiritalis legerint vel in misericordiae
operam incubuerint, doloribus vel propriae vitae incommodis Deo clementi
oblatis.

Quo igitur accessus, ad divinam veniam per Ecclesiae claves consequendam,
facilior pro pastorali caritate evadat, haec Paenitentiaria enixe rogat ut sacerdotes
legitime adprobati, prompto et generoso animo celebrationi Paenitentiae sese
praebeant ac S. communionem infirmis ministrent.

Attamen, pro spiritalibus condicionibus ad Indulgentiam plene
acquirendam, semper valet huius Apostolicae Paenitentiariae Nota De
Reconciliationis Sacramento, tempore pandemiae morbi “covid 19” celebrando.

Denique, cum autem animae in Purgatorio detentae fidelium suffragiis,
potentissimum vero acceptabili Altaris sacrificio iuvantur (cfr. Conc. Tr., Sess.
XXV, decr. De Purgatorio), sacerdotes omnes enixe rogantur ut die
Commemorationis omnium fidelium defunctorum, ter sacrum facere ad normam
Constitutionis Apostolicae “Incruentum Altaris”, a Benedicto Pp. XV, v.m., die X
Augusti MCMXV datae.

Praesenti totum per mensem novembrem valituro. Contrariis
quibuscumque minime obstantibus.

Datum Romae, ex aedibus Paenitentiariae Apostolicae, die XXII mensis
Octobris anni MMXX, in S. Ioannis Pauli Pp. memoria.

MAURUS Card. PIACENZA
Paenitentiarius Maior

CHRISTOPHORUS NYKIEL
Regens

L. + S.
In PA tab. N.791/20/I

 

 

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