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Tag Archives: vernacular
POLL: Traditional Latin Mass with VERNACULAR readings for low Masses
There are groups which celebrate the Traditional Latin Mass and which, for Low Mass, have their readings in the vernacular. Alternatively, for example on a Sunday, while the priest reads the reading at the altar in Latin, someone reads the … Read More
ASK FATHER: A priest asks, can we use the English translations in Weller’s 3 volumes to bless things, etc., in the Extraordinary Form? Here comes the BAD NEWS, Fathers.
IMPORTANT UPDATE: I don’t know what I was thinking. I must have had a monsignor moment. There is now available the great Parish Ritual which conforms to what was in force in 1962! I posted about it HERE (and there is … Read More
ASK FATHER: Are blessings, holy water, etc., less effective if Latin isn’t used? Wherein Fr. Z rants.
From a reader… who picked up on something I wrote about blessings and holy water in the traditional form compared to the new, post-Conciliar form… HERE QUAERITUR: “The exorcisms of the salt and water are to be done in Latin.” … Read More
The penny dropped for another musician
The penny dropped for another musician. At increasingly useful Crisis today I read a piece by a musician about the state of church music today. His summary: disaster resulted from the degradation of sacred worship in Latin. Of course it … Read More
Pope Francis: modernity, vernacular stirred up many problems – music “mediocre, superficial and banal”
Nothing will come of this, of course, but it is nice to hear it from Pope Francis. Alas, Benedict XVI and John Paul II said similar things about music and liberals ignored them, too. Via Vatican Radio [which is going to … Read More
Posted in Liturgy Science Theatre 3000
Tagged liturgical music, Musicam sacram, Pope Francis, sacred music, vernacular
21 Comments
21 Comments
Speaking of 50th anniversary of vernacular Masses… BUGNINICARE! (Revisited)
In some circles there has been some panting whoopdeedoo about the fact that 50 years ago Paul VI celebrated Mass for the first time in a Roman parish in Italian. I posted on the parish once before, some time ago. … Read More
Posted in Lighter fare, Linking Back, Liturgy Science Theatre 3000
Tagged Annibale Bugnini, BUGNINICARE, Paul VI, vernacular
71 Comments
71 Comments
Renaissance triumphalist crowing both in bad taste and divisive
I saw a mordantly amusing comment from Fr. Hunwicke over at his blog HERE. He mused about the recent 50th anniversary of Paul VI going to a Roman parish to say Mass in Italian. Perpend. My emphases and added … Read More
When ‘experts’ interpret the wishes of the laity: What could go wrong?
Over at NLM my friend Gregory DiPippo has a fine essay with reflections on the imposition of the vernacular for Holy Mass back in 1969/70. This topic has been on my mind lately, given that we have been at this … Read More
ICEL: 50th anniversary – Two Cheers for ICEL!
Two cheers for ICEL! I was sent this by an ICEL insider: ICEL was founded in St Peter’s Basilica fifty years ago today. The occasion will be marked by a Solemn Mass at the Altar of the Chair at 5pm, … Read More
Posted in Events, Liturgy Science Theatre 3000, Our Catholic Identity, The future and our choices
Tagged ICEL, Latin, SC 36, SC 54, vernacular
5 Comments
5 Comments
POLLS: Latin and/or Vernacular at Low Mass (TLM)
Under another entry HERE I deal with the question of vernacular readings during the Low Mass of the Extraordinary Form. A long-time reader and supporter of this blog suggested a poll. Here are a couple POLLS coming at the question … Read More
Posted in "How To..." - Practical Notes, Liturgy Science Theatre 3000, POLLS
Tagged Extraordinary Form, Latin, Low Mass, TLM, vernacular
35 Comments
35 Comments
QUAERITUR: Vernacular only readings in traditional Low Mass?
From a reader: We have a priest that insists on reading the epistle & gospel in the vernacular for each Low Mass only. No one cares for it and it doesn’t even sound right. It impacts the integrity and fluidity … Read More
QUAERITUR: Vernacular Proper in the TLM?
From a reader: I am considering starting an EF daily Mass in my parish. I am considering offering it as per usual with the exeption of using the vernacular for the propers (introit, collect, gradual, communion, post communion) and the … Read More
QUAERITUR: Is absolution in Latin encouraged?
From a reader: I went to Confession the other day before a Tridentine Mass, and the confessor said the prayers of absolution in Latin. I know this is permitted, but is it encouraged in the same way as Latin in … Read More
Catholic Herald: The Church should make life harder for Catholics
Here is something for us all to think about as we approach the Year of Faith. From the UK’s best Catholic weekly, The Catholic Herald, comes this good reflection. It is on their regular site, but can be found in … Read More
Posted in "How To..." - Practical Notes, Brick by Brick, GO TO CONFESSION, New Evangelization, Our Catholic Identity, The Drill, The future and our choices, Year of Faith
Tagged confession, Eucharistic fast, Holy Days of Obligation, Latin, liturgy, Michael Jennings, sacrament of penance, standing, vernacular
64 Comments
64 Comments
Msgr. Steenson of the US Anglican Ordinariate about the Roman Rite’s Extraordinary Form
There was some controversy (HERE) about the position of the USA’s Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter for former Anglicans in communion with Rome concerning the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite. The head of the US Ordinariate, Msgr. Jeffrey … Read More
QUAERITUR: More than one language during Mass. Fr. Z rants.
It fascinates me how often questions on a similar idea come in at the same time. From a priest and from a student (edited): Here in Ireland, it sometimes happens that, when Mass is being celebrated in English, some parts … Read More
QUAERITUR: TLM readings in the vernacular and UE 26
From a reader: I know this is not the same as an official dubium to the PCED, but your view would be appreciated. (I ask these questions because of the situations at two different parishes in the Archdiocese of ___ … Read More
QUAERITUR: Was Latin the “vernacular”?
From a seminarian: A brother seminarian and I recently attended one night of a parish mission of sorts led by a renowned Catholic musician. In one tangent mentioning the newly corrected translation of the Missal, he stated how the Mass … Read More
QUAERITUR: Latin for parts of the Ordinary Form of Holy Mass
From a reader: Is there any reason why one cannot use Latin for only one of the ordinary prayers of the mass in the OF? In other words, may the Agnus Dei be in Latin while the rest are in … Read More
Posted in ASK FATHER Question Box
Tagged Latin, mother tongue, Sacrosanctum Concilium 54, vernacular
21 Comments
21 Comments
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