Photos of Ultima Thule!

The first images of Kuiper Belt object Ultima Thule are on SpaceWeather. New Horizons is a NASA spacecraft that was the first to visit Pluto in July 2015.  It continued into the Kuiper Belt.   This is only the fifth craft to get out that far, along with Pioneer 10 and 11, and Voyager 1 and 2. Voyager 1 is now in interstellar space…but it’ll be back!

FIRST IMAGES OF ULTIMA THULE: The first high-resolution images of Ultima Thule have reached Earth following New Horizons’ historic flyby on New Year’s Day. Hot off the presses, the photos reveal a pair of roughly spherical planetestimals stuck together in the middle. The contact binary strangely resembles BB-8:

“This flyby is a historic achievement,” says New Horizons Principal Investigator Alan Stern of the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado. “Never before has any spacecraft team tracked down such a small body so far away in the abyss of space. We’re getting our first close-up look at ancient planetesimals.”

Planetestimals are the building blocks of planets. Here in the inner solar system, no pristine examples remain for us to study. They have been swallowed by planets, hammered by asteroids, and scorched by solar radiation. Ultima Thule, however, has been preserved in the deep freeze of the outer solar system for more than 4 billion years. It is truly a relic of the genesis of planets.

Mission scientists believe that Ultima Thule formed by accretion. A swarm of smaller planetesimals gathered under the pull of their own meagre gravity to form two spherical bodies, medium-sized planetesimals which themselves slowly bumped together and stuck. The result was Ultima Thule.

This is just the beginning of Ultima Thule’s revelations. First images released today have a resolution of about 140 meters per pixel. Images arriving in the days and weeks ahead will be as much as 5 times sharper, possibly revealing craters, hills, landslides, rilles and other unknowns.

New Horizons also scanned the area for tiny moons–the debris of the original swarm that gave birth to this strange object. Detections, if any, will be revealed in future transmissions from the spacecraft. Stay tuned!

 

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REVIEW: “Annibale Bugnini: Reformer of the Liturgy” by Yves Chiron

As the new year begins, I’ll point to a new and interesting book about an infamous figure in the Church in the 20th century.

Annibale Bugnini: Reformer of the Liturgy by Yves Chiron.

US HERE – UK HERE

This is the English translation of the French original.

The forward is by Alcuin Reid.   Reid is very careful to point out Chiron’s objectivity.   However, you can glean from the beginnings of the book that Bugnini – infamously controversial – while he wasn’t guilty of some things said about him – was a master manipulator of structures of power and we not above playing fast and loose with the truth.

Reid adds some information of his own, including an intriguing excerpt from Louis Bouyer about how Bugnini manipulated – even lied to – Paul VI and also the Consilium, telling each that the other was all for what (Bugnini’s agenda) was being proposed.

Reid includes a bit he learned from the late, great Card. Stickler about whether or not Bugnini really was a Freemason, often alleged about him.

“No,” the Cardinal replied, “it was something far worse.”

On the other hand, it seems that Bugnini tried to intervene in the case of Archbp. Lefebvre, arguing for greater patience from Paul VI.  And, counter-intuitively, Bugnini argued for greater permissions for the use of the pre-Conciliar form of Mass, along the lines of the Heenan permission.

I look forward to drill farther into this book.  I’m a couple chapters in, past his early life.  It has already given me food for thought.

The truth is more interesting than useful rumors that can be used as weapons.

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Wherein Fr. Z rants at the beginning of a New Year of Salvation

I’ve noted with interest a number of reviews of the past year regarding the Church.  Not a few saw the last year as a “year from hell” or an “annus horribilis”.

Sure.  That’s not unfair.  It was a very difficult year, filled with many shocks and disappointments for those of us who love the Church.

However, I offer hereunder a couple other points to consider, especially because it has been rough year.

First, when someone in a high place has said or done some crazy or confusing thing, people have had recourse to their good resources to look up the Church’s true teaching.  It could be that many of these people haven’t cracked the covers of a catechism for decades.  Suddenly, people are reviewing even the basics of the Faith, which have been challenged through ambiguity or downright contradiction.  As a result, people have had the opportunity to deep the Faith in which they believe (fides quae creditur) as well the Faith by which they believe (fides quae creditur).  The crisis has prompted lots of people to drill in and learn and live better.

Next, when you go into churches, especially in Rome, you will see inscriptions that, invariably, have dates.  Quite often before the year you will see “A.D… anno Domini… in the year of our Lord”.  In Roman churches you might see “A.S… anno salutis… in the year of our salvation”.   At the beginning of a new “year of the Lord” or “year of salvation” we are reminded that Christ is the Lord of our time here, and His Lordship is directed to our salvation.    There is nothing easy about that.   And why should it be easy?   Winning our salvation wasn’t easy for Christ.  Christ’s manner of being Lord informs our time here.

Of all the universes God might have created, He created this one, into which He called us into existence not at any old random time, but at a precise time known to Him from before the creation of the cosmos.  He knew us all before the universe was created and had something in mind for us.  That’s why He called us out of nothingness into personhood as His images here and now.  This is the time God wanted us to live.  Therefore, this is the best time for us to be here.  The circumstances of our world are not irrelevant.   This is the where and the when of our working out the salvation He has offered.

Looking at the state of the Church, we must remember that Jesus is the Lord of our time here.   The Church is His.  We all have a part to play in the Church and in the world.

As a point of reflection for this new year of salvation, I propose that you must not look at what is going on around you as if you are passive spectators.

You must not be down hearted.  If this is a hard time, then, as a member of this Church Militant, like the soldier pilgrim you are, remember that, when you live your vocation you, like a soldier in the midst of battle, are in the safest and best place you can be.   When you are fulfilling your vocation and God’s will for you with true devotion, then God will give you every actual grace that you need in abundance, because you are fulfilling the role He knew for you in His great plan, the economy of salvation, from before the formation of the cosmos.

You have vocations to fulfill as a member of the Church, Christ’s mystical Person, both ad intra (within herself) and ad extra (to the world around us).

And… GO TO CONFESSION!

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“Let y’all know!” The “Noveritis” Epiphany chant announcement of 2019’s liturgical dates

At Epiphany – once upon a time far more important than Christmas – we Latins have the custom of singing a solemn proclamation of the key liturgical dates – movable feasts – for the new year of salvation, just begun. This underscores how these dates and seasons are all interconnected.

The liturgical year is a reflection of and on the mystery of our salvation.  And, never forget, the mysteries shape us. We are our rites.

Some liturgical dates are movable. For example Septuagesima, in 2019, falls on 17 February. This beginning of Pre-Lent doesn’t fall on the same date every year because the date of Easter changes each year.

“But Father! But Father!”, you libtards are surely sputtering.  “What does this chant sound like? Do it in English like the spirit of Vatican II wanted!   But you won’t because YOU HATE VATICAN II!”

We’ll use Latin today.

Here is what it sounds like, in case some deacon or priest out there, less familiar with chant, wants to give it a shot.  It sounds rather like the Exultet, sung at the Easter Vigil.  The Noveritis is a little awkward in parts.

You can find a printable PDF of the Noveritis 2019 HERE.  NB: It has Ascension Thursday on the correct day!

Fathers.  Here is how to sing the Noveritis for 2019, on Epiphany.  I’ll take it slowly so that you can get it into your ears.

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Fr. Z’s Predictions for 2019

2019 Predictions

1. Pres. Trump will get yet another SCOTUS pick.
2. Francis and the meeting in Rome about protection of minors will miss the point of The Present Crisis and do nothing concrete.
3. The Diocese of Madison will remain vacant.
4. The blog will be wholly renovated.
5. The number of places with Holy Mass ad orientem will grow quietly but significantly.
6. Card. Dolan will be made head of the Holy Sepulcher.
7. Card. Wuerl will still be Administrator in Washington DC.
8. Holy See media policies and statements will make Baghdad Bob proud.
9. A large number of priests will begin to use the Usus Antiquior but seminaries will become more hostile.
10. Fr. Z will still not be a Monsignor.

How did I do last year?

2018 Predictions

1. Pres. Trump will acknowledge North Korea a nuclear state to diffuse the military option.   [-0 – Nope, but he did diffuse the situation another way.]
2. The building of The Wall will begin.  [+1 – Building is on, slowly.  Negotiating money is part of it.]
3. Justice Kennedy will resign from the Supreme Court, and Pres. Trump will get another pick. [+1]
4. Pope Francis – still Pope – will beatify Pierre Teilhard de Chardin with the intention to canonize him and declare him Doctor of the Church. [-1]
5. The Synod on Youth will discuss “viri probati”, which will be approved as a step to making clerical celibacy optional. [-1]
6. The Holy See and Palestine will establish full diplomatic relations, Nunciature in Bethlehem. [-1]
7. The number of places with Holy Mass ad orientem will grow quietly but significantly. [+1 This is happening.]
8. Card. Sarah will be transferred to Propaganda and Archbp. Roche will takeover at CDW. [-1 – I’m glad I was wrong about this.]
9. Doctrinal evaluation of professors and theological writings will be devolved to local episcopal conferences. [-1 – I’m not sure if any work is done on this now.]
10. Fr. Z will still not be a Monsignor.  [+1 – Quosque?]

How did I do last year? HERE

https://zuhlsdorf.computer/2018/01/fr-zs-predictions-for-2018/

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UPDATE: Sending snail-mail 2018 Christmas cards

UPDATE: 7 Jan 2019

Worthington, ON
Watervliet, NY
Forest Hills, NY
San Matteo, CA
Croissy sur Seine, France
St. Paul, MN
Allenton, MI
Hutchinson, MN
Buffalo, NY
Sea Girt, NJ
Leominster, MA

UPDATE: 3 Jan 2019

Tokyo, Japan (see you soon!)
Broken Arrow, OK (I am flabbergasted)
Terrassa, Spain (kudos!)
Newport, VIC Australia
Farleigh, Somerset, England (stamps!)

UPDATE: 1 Jan 2019

Sudbury, ON
St. Paul, MN
S. Bend, IN
Henrico, VA
Sheffield, England
Battesford, England (thanks)
Irving, TX
Plano, TX
Newton Center, MA
Zurich, Switzerland
Austinburg, OH
Boston? (stamps)
Brookfield, WI
Garland, TX
Bedford, TX
Lubbock, TX

I think the truck from Texas arrived in the north!

UPDATE: 28 Dec 2018

Some new ones…

Kaneohe, HI
Emu Plains, NSW, Australia
Carlsbad, NM
Naperville, IL (TMSM donation!)
Tiverton, RI
Morecambe, England
San Francisco, CA
Springboro, OH
Broadrun, VA
McLean, VA
Franklinville, NY
Cleveland, OH
Glenville, IL (challenge coin!)

UPDATE: 26 Dec 2018

More cards are coming in, now from the corners of the Earth, which is a trick, because your planet has no corners. Thanks!

Bethesda, MD
Brainard, NE
Phoenix, AZ (thanks for the comments)
Janesville, WI
Kenai, AK (thanks for the prayers)
St. Paul, MN
Cincinnati, OH (thanks for acknowledging my inner Msgr.)
Bronx, NY (MSW – ha!)
Stamford, CT
Alliston, ON (wow… just, wow)
Calgary, AB
Albany, NY (cool stamps)
Hamburg, NY
Hazel Green, AL
San Antonio, TX
Plano, TX
Hamilton, ON (prayers for job!)
N. Ft. Mayers, FL (thanks for the “Daily Prayer for Priests”)
Loganville, GA (nice Beuronese)
Voorhees, NJ (thanks for the Morlino ancedotes)
Meridian, ID (yes, “Go to confession!”
Cashton, WI
Coldrerio, Switzerland
Glasgow, Scotland (Una Voce!)
Boise, ID
Singapore
Delmar, NY (Masses for Bp. Morlino)
Peosta, IA
Post Washington, OH (prayers)
Wakefield, RI
Appleton, WI
Mt. Clemens, MI
Ethridge, TN (nice family)
Preston ? England
Harrisburg, PA
Arlington Heights, IL
Cudahy, WI ($2’s!)
Morrisville, PA (Masses!)
Huntersville, NC
Rochester, MN
Lodi, WI (quite a photo)
Southwick, MA
Arlington, TX
Shelbyville, KY
Clifton PArk, NY
Denton, TX
Meadville, PA
Lost Nation, IA
Bloomington, IN (Gratias propter preces libenter persolvo)
Montgomery, AL
Anacortes, WA (with a great drawing!)

UPDATE: 22 Dec 2018

Again, many of you have included letters describing your year or at least present.  I stopped more than once to say a prayer.  Thanks for the expressions of gratitude for the blog.  Quite a few of you are having Masses said for me.  If I should start to glow in the dark pretty soon, I’ll know why.  Also, many of you said you were praying for Bp. Morlino and for a good successor.  I am grateful.  And thanks for the checks and gift cards!

Here are some of the places I discovered in opening the cards.

Skaneateles, NY
Pasadena, CA
Greenville, SC (lovely about Bp. Morlino)
Orlando, FL
Severn, MD
Tampa, FL
Ft Wayne, IN (thanks for the Masses)
San Jose, CA
Aurora, CO
Story, WY (more Masses)
Monterey, CA
Plymouth, MI (40 SSB, 7268… got it, 73)
G P Farms, MI
Bakersfield, CA
Orrtanna, PA (and Masses)
Churchville, NY (thanks for the TMSM donation)
Vero Beach, FL (TLM – YAY!)
Woodinville, WA
South Jordan, UT
Colonie, NY
Circleville, OH
Palisade, CO
Santa Barbara, CA (whew! thanks)
Brooklyn, WI
Falmouth, NS
Mesa, AZ
Witchita, KS (interesting stats!)
Mandan, ND
Dorcester, MA
Owatonna, MN
Chula Vista, CA (Masses!)
Mankato, MN
Holyoke, MA
Largo, FL (nuts!)
Fargo, ND
Arlington, VA (thanks, again)

 

UPDATE: 15 Dec 2018

I returned home, and checked the PO Box, which was jammed with cards.  Thank you.

Many of you included kind words about my recent injuries.  Thank you.  Many of you also expressed prayers for Bp. Morlino.  I am very grateful.  Quite of few of you had me enrolled in Masses to be celebrated.  I need every bit I can get.   Some of you sent a gift of money or gift cards.  Warm and cheerful thanks.

Now, places whence your cards have come:

Bend, OR
Middleton, WI
Wheaton, IL
Thaxton, VA
Santa Fe, NM
North Port, FL
Houston, TX (thanks)
Rio Rico, AZ
Columbia, PA
Lafayette, LA
Montauk, NY?
Dayton, OH
Pewamo, MI
Lismore, Ireland
Leawood, KS (nice note)
Ohkay Owingeh, NM
San Diego, CA
Sabattus, ME (73!)
St. Louis, MO
O’Fallon, MO
Flint, MI
Menomonie Falls, WI
St. Benedict, OR (be good!)
Arbor Vitae, WI
Mt Vernon, OH (thanks for that last note and COOL stamps)
York, PA
Howard Beach, NY
Pine Grove, PA
San Juan, PR
Heidelberg, Germany
Leavenworth, KS (good for you!)
Mt. Clemens, MI
Yellowstone National Park, WY
Columbus, IN
Kyoto, Japan (Domo arigato gozaimashita!)

 

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Originally Published on: Dec 4, 2018

Already a couple emails have come in about an address for sending Christmas greetings.

If you would like to send me Christmas greetings or cards, please send by snail mail, if possible with really cool stamps.

As I did last year, I’ll try to post all the places whence they arrived from around the world.  Also, I find the notes and letters which describe the year people have had to be interesting and, often, moving.  I read them all.

I have a US PO BOX address.

Fr John Zuhlsdorf
Tridentine Mass Society of Madison
733 Struck St.
PO BOX 44603
Madison, WI 53744-4603

PAST ADDRESSES ARE VOID

If you need to send anything that requires a signature, such as gold bars, a Bugatti Chiron, bearer bonds, cases of Pappy Van Winkle, complete Pontifical Mass vestment sets … you know, the usual stuff, get in touch with me for an alternate address.

Please! DON’T send perishable food items. I am sure they would be wonderful, and neither poisonous nor hallucinogenic… mostly. But, please, just don’t.

If you put glitter in the card, I’ll recite the Maledictory Psalms against you.

I always enjoy the cards.

Have a wonderful Advent!

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End of year 2018 charitable giving and YOU. A suggestion.

The TMSM’s rose Solemn set

We are coming to the end of the calendar year.

Sometimes people want to make deductible donations, but they don’t know to whom.  Is the organization doing something good?

Here’s a pitch for the Tridentine Mass Society of the Diocese of Madison.  I am president of the TMSM.  It is a 501(c)(3) organization, so your donations are tax deductible.

We are doing our best.  We have done terrific work with the support of the late, great Extraordinary Ordinary to elevate all liturgical boats by promoting the generous implementation of Summorum Pontificum.  We help priests and sponsor Masses in the Extraordinary Form.

In the last few years, we have made beautiful sets of vestments for the worthy celebration of Mass, including a fantastic set for the diocese, with the coat of arms of the diocese and of the bishop.   The Diocese used our vestments for the priesthood ordinations last June.  They used our vestments for the funeral of Bp. Morlino, broadcast on EWTN.

I have a few more projects for the upcoming year.

We will not be stopped.

Please help us.

There are three ways to give:

  1. Continue To Give HERE
  2. PayPal HERE
  3. Check by snail mail (no fees!) Tridentine Mass Society of Madison
    733 Struck St.
    P.O. Box 44603
    Madison, WI 53744-4603

Make out big checks and send them right away!

And.. if you are shopping online… PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE use my links and search box. It really helps.

“C’mon.  I know you want to.”

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Holy See Spokesman Greg Burke resigned

Today I was greeted with the excellent new that my old friend Greg Burke, the director of the Holy See Press Office and papal spokesman, has resigned.  I am delighted for him.

While you could not assemble a better man for the job from a multitude of parts, and Greg Burke truly is a “man of parts”, it pained me to see him in that role, in these years.

There is a story at National Catholic Register HERE and at La Stampa HERE.

Not only did Greg resign, but the deputy, Paloma García Ovejero also resigned. SURPISE! Hence, the Vatican one of the only women in a high profile spot.

Interesting, no?

An interim director has been appointed: Alessandro Gisotti who has been heading up the dicastery for Social Communications. By the way, just a little while ago, 18 Dec., Andrea “turncoat” Tornielli was appointed to that same dicastery to coordinate the editorial line of all of the Holy See’s media.

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On changing the Italian text of the “Our Father”. Wherein Fr. Z rants.

At First Things, Charlotte Allen deftly explains the spectacularly bad move to change the official wording of the Lord’s Prayer in Italian.

In effect, she points out that this tinkeritis (my word) is yet another abysmally obtuse reaction by bishops and so-called experts to the decades ongoing erosion of Catholic identity that they caused in the first place.  Okay, that last part was mine.

Here’s a sample, though I recommend that you read the whole thing.   She starts out with an explanation of how the wording – in Italian – of the Lord’s Prayer will change and why (hint: it’s called a ‘bad translation’).  Then she gets into the meat of it: dumbing things down doesn’t help.  My emphases:

[…]

It is always irritating when professional liturgists, theologians, and prelates deem ordinary Catholic laypeople mentally incapable of looking beyond the surface meaning of “lead us not into temptation” and understanding that the words might actually imply a subtle and nuanced understanding of God the Father’s providential concern for sinful humanity. It is especially irritating for English-speaking Catholics to face—possibly—the prospect of changing, on a whim of bishops or pressure from the pope, the deliberately archaic language of their own beloved Christian prayer that has included the words “lead into” as a translation of inducas since Anglo-Saxon times. Proposals to “modernize” the English Our Father have surfaced from time to time, but so far both clergy and faithful have rejected them.

The problem is deeper than just the unwarranted dumbing down of an ancient phrase. Updating the ne nos inducas is another knot in a long string of failed efforts to reverse the catastrophic decline of practiced Catholicism (especially European Catholicism) in the wake of Vatican II by piling on more of the accommodations with secular modernity that Vatican II supposedly mandated. To most of the theologians—nearly all hailing from Europe—who engineered the supposed liturgical and disciplinary “reforms” of the Church in the wake of the Council, many traditional rules and practices were simply too arcane and rigid for the secularized modern mind to deal with.

[…]

In this context, fiddling with translations of ne nos inducas in tentationem isn’t just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. It’s doubling down on a strategy of post-Vatican II accommodation with secular culture that has so far failed miserably. Even worse, it’s playing fast and loose with the Gospels and Christ’s own words.

Brava.  Fr. Z kudos.

The answer: Tradition.

If only we had a common language of prayer in the Latin Rite of the Roman Catholic Church.

Somewhere in my stacks and stacks of books I have a reprint of an old Italian catechism.  It lays out everything that the children were to learn for 1st Communion, etc.  Included are lots of prayers in Latin.

Also, I have a new edition of the classic catechism of St. Robert Bellarmine, translated into English with an introduction by Athanasius Schneider. Doctrina Christiana: The Timeless Catechism of St. Robert Bellarmine  (US HERE – UK HERE).  This is terrific.  Remember that St. Robert Bellarmine wrote in a time before we moderns got all grown up an too sophisticated to do things like… you know… think, make distinctions, remember stuff.   His catechism breaks down all the articles of the Creed and of the Our Father.  He provides a crystal clear explanation of “ne nos inducas“.  This catechism is written as a dialogue.  It was intended for catechists and it was written at the express bidding of Pope Clement VIII and was approved in 1598.

S. Enlighten me about the sixth petition: “and lead us not into temptation.”

T.  In this petition, we ask for help against future evils, clearly against temptations, through which we fall into sin. Therefore, you would know that here we especially pray to God, lest he would permit us to be conquered by temptation. To be sure, because temptations are very dangerous, and victory over them is uncertain, therefore, we ask God, lest he would permit us to be tried, especially when he sees the devil will be the victor. For that reason, we gather a characteristic proof that it is beyond doubt the devil not only cannot conquer us, but cannot even tempt us, unless God should permit it.

S. I do not sufficiently understand this matter of speaking, “and lead us not into temptation.” It seems this phrase means that God usually leads us into temptation, and we ask him lest we would do that.

T. To lead into temptation, or to send into temptation, or to send one into temptation or to urge one to sin is proper to the devil, but by no means is it proper to God, who pursues sin with the utmost hatred. Just the same, by speaking, according to this phrase of Sacred Scripture, where it is repeatedly attributed to God, to lead into temptation is nothing other than for God to permit someone to be tempted, or to be conquered by temptation. This is why the sense of this petition is what we have said, namely, that since we recognize on the one hand, the weakness of our nature, and on the other, the deceit and power of the devil, we pray to God that he would not simply prevent us from being conquered by temptation, but also by being beaten by temptation when he sees that we are not going to be victorious.

In Bellarmine’s Short Catechism of 1614, for children, he explains.

Student:  Declare the sixth (petition of the Our Father).

Teacher:  We demand (ask) in the sixth that God deliver us from temptations which are evils to come, or not permitting us to be content, or giving us grace that we will not be overcome.

Heck… even Lutherans get this.   In Luther’s Small Catechism he wrote:

The Sixth Petition
And lead us not into temptation.

What does this mean? God tempts no one. We pray in this petition that God would guard and keep us so that the devil, the world, and our sinful nature may not deceive us or mislead us into false belief, despair, and other great shame and vice. Although we are attacked by these things, we pray that we may finally overcome them and win the victory.

It is the task of bishops and priests to explain all these articles of the Creed, the petitions of the Our Father, the meaning of the Decalogue, and the basics, to their people.   That’s why after Trent, the Roman Catechism was produced: so that parish priests had a sure reference to the content of the Faith, the fides quae creditur, so that they could preach and teach it to their people.   The fact is, back in the day, the Fathers of Trent realized that catechism was in appalling shape.  That’s why they did what they did.

Can we say that things are a whole lot better now?   Sure, we have greater resources than even before.  However, today we have to fight also the debilitating effect of horrible sentimentlist education and the accumulative brain-melting effect of screens.

Priests and bishops are included.

When I was in major seminary in these USA, one day we were walking out of a Christology class.  I heard one guy say to another, “That whole two natures in Christ thing is pretty interesting.”

PRETTY INTERESTING?   He had never heard of this before and he was in 2nd year of major seminary.

Okay… end of rant.

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Your Sunday Sermon Notes

Was there a good point made in the sermon you heard at your Mass of Obligation for Sunday in the Octave of Nativity of Our Lord?

Let us know what it was!

Yes, a good point!

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