QUAERITUR: Can choristers receive Communion after Mass?

From a reader:

Our choir is in a loft at the back of the church. [That’s where the choir belongs!] We have always come down after the mass and received the precious host kneeling at the alter rail from deacon or a priest. Our new rector has decided that that is wrong and the choir is required by the “rules” to receive communion in the loft in the middle of trying to sing the communion antiphon and a piece of appropriate communion choral music. [?] I understand that the CDW addressed this with US bishops in a letter around 2004 allowing choir members to receive after mass; I have searched everywhere but could not find it. Can you assist me please?

I am not aware of a 2004 letter of the CDW to the USCCB in which Communion for choristers is clarified.  If someone can dig it up, I’d like to see it.

This, however, is what I gleaned from the GIRM:

86. While the priest is receiving the Sacrament, the Communion chant is begun…The singing is continued for as long as the Sacrament is being administered to the faithful. If, however, there is to be a hymn after Communion, the Communion chant should be ended in a timely manner. Care should be taken that singers, too, can receive Communion with ease [? “ease”?]. (Curetur ut etiam cantores commode communicare possint.)

As far as I know, that is about all we have on this question.   It is vague (which is good).  There is nothing herein that requires the choir members to receive at a specific time.  There is nothing herein that demands that choir members receive in a specific place.

Nor does the Latin say that they should be able to receive “with ease”.  That is what the translator made out of commode, an adverb which is “duly, properly, completely, rightly, well, skilfully, neatly”.  To get “with ease” out of that, you have to cover one eye and tilt your head and squint until the letters blur.

Let’s us practice some mutual enrichment through the provisions of Summorum Pontificum.  

Let’s see if there is help from the Extraordinary Form, which solved problems like these for centuries before the artificially created Ordinary Form was even a thought.

In the Extraordinary Form, it is fairly common for choir members to receive after Mass.  There is a rite for distribution of Communion after Mass which is both reverent and brief.

So, if the Ordinary Form Mass is over, then Mass is over, if those of you in Columbia Heights get my drift.

There is no reason why the Extraordinary Form rite for distribution could not be used after the conclusion of Mass in the Ordinary Form for the benefit of the choristers.  You aren’t mixing the forms or rites.

It would be “commode” to use it.

 

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Pope Francis: Peace which is not tranquility.

In his daily, non-Magisterial of-the-cuff fervorino Pope Francis said this (remember, the Vatican doesn’t give us everything – they cut it up into little snippets they deem important and thus take everything out of context… I digress):

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“Jesus was full of joy, full of joy,” explained the pontiff, quoting Jesus’ words from Luke’s Gospel when, from the intimacy with his Father, the Lord proclaims “I rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and I praised the Father.”

This “is precisely the internal mystery of Jesus,” stated the Pope, “that relationship with the Father in the Spirit. It is His internal joy, the interior joy that He gives to us.”

“And this joy,” he explained, “is true peace,” which is not static, quiet or tranquil.

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Peace that is not tranquil.

Peace ≠ tranquility.

What ran through my mind is the ineffable quote of Piccarda in the Paradiso:

In His will is our peace.
It is that sea to which all things move,
both what it creates and what nature makes…

E ‘n la sua volontade è nostra pace.  In His will is our peace.

Rest.

Our hearts are restless…

Somehow, peace is … not rest?

Perhaps in this life.

St. Augustine spoke of love as being his “gravity”.  The ancients thought that things had to seek the place to which they were supposed to go and that was their “gravity”, an internal force.  Augustine said: Amor meus pondus meum… My love is my weight.

In this life, so long as we on being drawn to the place of rest, we are at rest, at peace, in the hic et nunc, the here and now… which, as I think of it, are so important in Jesuit spirituality.  When we are on the way in the right direction, we have a peace which is not tranquil because, by being in our groove, our gravity zone, properly attuned, we are in untranquil peace.

Otherwise,… the Pope was just talking off the cuff and said something that, well… who knows….?

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Pope Bouncer

Even as I remind people that, under Pope Francis’ watch, former-Father Greg Reynolds is still excommunicated, we learn that the reigning pontiff once worked as a bouncer.

He is still working as a bouncer.

One of the most important thing that a Pope (bishop… priest) does in and for the Church and God’s people is say “NO!”.  A lot.

As a matter of fact, on the lists of things that Pope’s (bishop’s… priest’s) must do in and for the Church is say “NO!”.  A lot.

In the meantime, I like that he has Wayfarers on.  I need new sunglasses.  I may stick with the Wayfarers but I have my eyes on Persol this time.

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ADVENT: Ideas for your season of preparation

I have decided to reread Benedict XVI’s third volume of Jesus of Nazareth: The Infancy Narratives.  It is shorter than the other two volumes, but there are riches within.

The Holy Father’s book presents a real defense of the historicity of the infancy narratives.

US hardcover HERE.  Kindle HERE. Unabridged audio HERE. Large print HERE.
UK hardcover HERE. Kindle HERE.  Large print HERE.

Also, for Advent, you might try something I read last year.  I think it is not too late to dig into it.  Try the reflections by a priest who died under the Nazi regime, Fr. Alfred Delp, in the book Advent of the Heart: Seasonal Sermons And Prison Writings 1941-1944. Kindle HERE. UKHERE.   Smart.  Moving.  I used some of this in my ADVENTCAzTs last year.

And, in the spirit of the Church Militant, you might think about toughing up your rosary!  A very cool priest had these made, modeled after the US government issued rosaries… yes, you read that right… government issued rosaries given to combat troops.

 

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ALERT! A “wine” that perhaps isn’t really wine!

As you know, for the consecration of the Eucharist to be VALID, we must use wine from grapes.  It can be fortified wine, but it must be wine (HERE).

Today I received a link from a reader which I am compelled to bring to your attention:

It’s Not Wine

Syd Abrams spent a quarter century as a lobbyist for the California Wine Institute, monitoring wine-related legislation in 12 western states until he was forced out two years ago, at age 78. All along, he’s also been a partner in eastern Washington’s pioneering, 800-acre Sagemoor Vineyards, the largest independent grape grower in the state.

Looking out for his private interests now, Abrams finds it curious that Washington State’s notoriously slack Liquor Board was letting one particular California producer get away with the enological equivalent of murder. Boxed “wine” from Franzia, specifically. Turns out, it’s not even wine…an affront to legitimate producers, and a violation of the Liquor Board’s own injunction against labeling that misleads consumers.

The phrase in question is Table Wine With Natural Flavorings.” In fact, says Abrams, the contents of the Franzia box should be called “Flavored Wine Product,” which would require Franzia to list the ingredients (including whatever distilled products are used to provide the alcohol content; Abrams doubts that it’s actually wine) and taxed as such. Franzia does provide a nutrition chart that skirts the question.

Meantime, Abrams’ former employers at the Wine Institute and Franzia’s attorneys have successfully lobbied the Liquor Board to ignore its own mandates (to collect taxes, to protect and educate the public etc.). At a recent meeting, the Board’s legal advisor pooh-poohed the argument that Franzia’s labeling was “misleading.” No minutes were kept.

Modest and courtly, Abrams is personally offended. “It’s not wine. It’s not right.”

Contact the author of this article or email tips@seattlest.com with further questions, comments or tips.

I bring this up from concern that, perhaps, in some sacristy somewhere someone might be using some of this stuff.

If there is a DOUBT… JUST DON’T USE IT.

Moral:

We DON’T SCREW AROUND WITH SACRAMENTS.

And, on that note… to all you idiot priests out there who screw around with the FORM of sacraments, such as the FORM of absolution….

KNOCK IT OFF!

If I could, I would hunt you down and make you pay…. er um… instruct you in the proper words of the form.

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Another evil attack on the Church and religious freedom in these USA

One can understand that a person might be slightly deranged because of sorrow and grief, but this is an evil act.

This is the sort of thing that will occur more and more often.

Michigan woman sues U.S. Catholic bishops over miscarriage treatment

(Reuters) – A Michigan woman has sued the U.S. Catholic bishops, arguing that a Catholic hospital in Michigan denied her adequate treatment during a painful miscarriage because of a policy banning even the discussion of abortion as an option.

Tamesha Means said she went to a Catholic hospital in Muskegon, Michigan, the only hospital within 30 minutes of her home, when her water broke in December 2010 after only 18 weeks of pregnancy, according to the lawsuit filed Friday in Detroit federal court.

Despite her being in excruciating pain and with virtually no chance her pregnancy could survive, Mercy Health Partners told Means there was nothing it could do and did not tell Means that terminating her pregnancy was an option and the safest course for her condition, the lawsuit said.

The lawsuit accuses the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops of creating health care directives “that cause pregnant women who are suffering from a miscarriage to be denied appropriate medical care, including information about their condition and treatment options.”

About 15 percent of the 800,000 beds in the U.S. are in a Catholic hospital, according to the Catholic Health Association. [Sr. Carol Keehan and the CHA gave cover to catholic politicians to vote for Obamacare, the “AFFORDABLE” Care Act.  Obamacare will result in the devastation of swaths of the economy and Catholic health providers.  Sr. Keehan… GIVE BACK THAT PEN!] In those hospitals, medical professionals must comply with the bishops’ directives, which prohibit suggesting or performing abortions.

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The American Civil Liberties Union is representing Means in the lawsuit.  [Isn’t that ironic?  Who cares about the civil liberties of CATHOLICS? Not the ACLU.]

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What is the solution?

Is it time to close every Catholic hospital?

Another take from another liberal news source, MSNBC.  Alas, it says that this may be the first case of its kind.  And it shows that the ACLU has been trying to stick it to the Catholic Church in a related way in Colorado.

UPDATE:

A priest wrote to me.  I will anonymize it so that he isn’t targeted and threatened:

I’m the pastor at ___, MI. During the summer, the Muskegon County Health Dept. and the Michigan ACLU had a conference at Muskegon Community College to inform women of there reproductive healthcare “rights” within religiously run institutions.

As soon as I saw the announcement, I said “this is a set-up”, as the only hospitals in Muskegon are Catholic hospitals.

Here’s the proof:

http://www.muskegonhealth.net/news/130710_knowyourrights.pdf

FYI–I saved a copy of the PDF in my iBook app.

Yes, this sure had the smell of “ambulance chaser” didn’t it?

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Pope Francis: former bouncer

Did you see this on the Catholic News Service:

In conversations with parishioners, pope reveals he once was a bouncer

VATICAN CITY (CNS) — In addition to having worked sweeping floors and running tests in a chemical laboratory as a teenager, Pope Francis revealed he also used to work as a bouncer.

No longer kicking troublemakers out of clubs, he has discovered the secret to bringing people back, this time, into the church, according to the Vatican newspaper, L’Osservatore Romano, Dec. 2.

[…]

And Australian former-priest Greg Reynolds is still excommunicated.

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“If you don’t see Merry Christmas in the window”… a song about shopping. VIDEO

I liked this:

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I have the same thought, year round, when I see those awful “No CCW” signs.  GRRRRR!

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Gift ideas and a really swell way to get your caffeine fix!

Do you give little gifts for St. Nicholas Day (other than the lumps of coal to distribute)?  Do you have office parties or some gatherings wherein you are to give small gifts?

The Carmelites in Wyoming have just the thing for you.

Click to buy!

In this sampler pack you get 2 oz each of:

4 x Mystic Monk Blend
4 x Midnight Vigils Blend
4 x Hermits’ Bold Blend
3 x Cowboy Blend
3 x Medium Colombian
3 x Decaffeinated Arabica
3 x Hazelnut
3 x Royal Rum Pecan
3 x Carmel

After all, Advent is the time for wakefulness, right?

They have smaller sample packs too, such as the 9 Sampler.  If you haven’t tried Mystic Monk Coffee, or it has been a while.  Why not use one of these to find your favorite and then order about a ton of it? That would be only… let’s see… 32,000 samplers! Otherwise only… let’s see… only 400 of their 5 pound bags!

You can use these samplers as stocking stuffers, small gifts, and your own personal caffeine buzz. Take one with you to work and make some coffee for your colleagues. Then, convince the office manager to use MY LINK to order more coffee regularly for the whole office!

Also, you’ll be delighted to know that Jingle Bell Java is back!

The Monks say:

Jingle Bell Java is arguably our best flavor, with hints of white chocolate, festive spices and bourbon, which you are sure to enjoy!

Click to buy!

If you need a coffee grinder, they will sell you one.  Click HERE

Remember: They have K-Cups, which I hear are great.  Click HERE

They also have all kinds of teas, even the foofy flavored teas.  HERE

And they have, as you would expect, all sorts of religious gifts.  HERE

Hey!  It’s Cyber Monday, okay?  Monks gotta buy groceries too.

Help them. Get great coffee.

 

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GUEST POST: NYC taxi driver thankful for Extraordinary Form, sad for dead baby.

I have written many times about the Church of the Holy Innocents in Manhattan.  This church has become a spiritual oasis for many.

Look at this at Catholic Stand from a New York taxi driver:

In this town even going to church can be pierced with the nails of the Culture of Death. I am sure you have all had similar experiences. On All Saints Day I take the day off from cab driving to attend Mass, but I also make the decision to really make it a holy day and to attend my first Extraordinary Form Mass. I get off the F-train across the street from Macy’s and Victoria’s Secret.

Normally I would never give it a second thought but this time of year they are gearing up for Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade. My eyes flash on Victoria’s Secret Store across the street. It dawns on me a few Sundays later that this is the very store where a 17-year old mother of two was arrested October 17th for shoplifting a pair of skinny jeans. One of her two children, a dead newborn was found in her bag. Officials are awaiting autopsy reports to see if she will be charged with murder. I would think about this in the weeks to come, but today I am trying to find a new church.

I make my way past hundreds of people on the sidewalk. It is easy to tell the tourists from the natives. The New Yorkers usually have that 1000-yard stare, that dead look in the eye that sees, but does not see. The tourists have that wonder still in their eyes, open. That’s why I like picking up the tourists in my cab. They are not so jaded. They still like to talk.

Most people today on the sidewalk are wearing blue jeans and sneakers, but some have green hair or orange hair or purple hair. Some have tattoos and nose piercings or lip piercings or eyebrow piercings. Some look bizarre with spiked hair or Mohican haircuts. And then it dawns on me that I am the freak here: the only one in suit and tie and carrying a red Adoremus Hymnal. So be it.

I walk up Broadway to 37th Street. I look both ways down the street searching, but I don’t see a church. Then I make out a white cross but that can’t be it. It looks like one of those old Protestant crosses that are in front of their small and sometimes storefront churches. In desperation I walk closer and make out the words in red: Holy Innocents Catholic Church.

The building is not at first impressive, obscured by the huge glass and steel office buildings around it. I kneel and make the sign of the cross and enter. Inside is a glorious Catholic Church. The Sanctuary is all in pristine white. Beautiful sculptures of angels all in white: St. Michael with his sword and St. Gabriel who would say the words that would change the course of human history. Innocence is unmistakably proclaimed here. I notice most of the parishioners are dressed up—many of the women wearing Mantillas, the Chapel Veils, and many men in suits or dress clothes. For the first time today I don’t feel out of place.

I look up to the vaulted ceiling and the choir starts. A Gregorian chant, and my legs wobble as the six torch bearers, the thurible carriers and the Priest and Deacons enter. At the Kyrie Eleison I sob for the first time—it is so breathtakingly beautiful. The choir is world class. My thoughts are that they are professionals from the Theatre or show business. Some of the hymns are thePolyphony of Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina with the bass, altos, tenors and sopranos singing different parts. The soprano is the best voice I have ever heard. Her voice soars up to the vaulted ceiling along with the curling wisps of incense, trilling the r’s as she hits the high notes.

We sing the Gloria, the Credo, and the Our Father in Latin to those sacred Latin melodies. I cry for the second, third, and fourth time. The Priest and Deacons are facing the High Altar and genuflecting or bowing to it while incensing it often. The Priest is saying the prayers for us and I’m fine with that. I don’t need to be saying the prayers along with him to feel I am participating. I amparticipating by being here. He is our shepherd and he prays for us. That’s the way our elder brothers the Hebrews did it for 2,000 years before Christ, and that’s mostly how the Holy Roman Catholic Church has done it for most of the last 2,000 years up until post Vatican II.

At one point in the Mass the Priests sprinkles the parishioners with Holy Water and the altar servers incense them. I get lost and don’t know what is happening a few times, but I am fine with that. I am lost in Christ’s Church and that is one good place to be lost. I tried to prepare by reading my Adoremus Hymnal beforehand but my memory is really bad this last decade or so and I just can’t retain things. I better learn by the time I get to heaven though, if the Lord in his bountiful mercy grants that divine grace to me that my whole life is aimed at receiving. I better learn it because the heavenly banquet is going on all the time there. I find afterwards that there was a pamphlet with everything listed, all the readings and translations on a table that I didn’t see. Well, next time.

The climax of the Mass is the Eucharist, “the source and summit of the Christian life” (Catechism of the Catholic Church, No.1324). I see the Altar Rails. I am stunned and grateful that they are still here and haven’t been taken out and made into S.U.V.s. I fall to my knees before it sobbing for the final time. I receive the body and blood, soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ and I get up wobbly, dizzy. I walk very slowly back to the pew and fall to my knees.

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