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“The legalization of the termination of pregnancy is none other than the authorization given to an adult, with the approval of an established law, to take the lives of children yet unborn and thus incapable of defending themselves. It is difficult to imagine a more unjust situation, and it is very difficult to speak of obsession in a matter such as this, where we are dealing with a fundamental imperative of every good conscience — the defense of the right to life of an innocent and defenseless human being.”
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Monthly Archives: October 2006
It was a beautiful day in Rome today. It is still summery warm and the evenings are cool. Today found me in the library, then at lunch at my place with blogger "Zadok" (spaghetti with olives and capers … Continue reading
From the Bollettino today. The Holy Father…
– Accepted the resignation from the office of Prefect of the Congregation for the Clergy, presented by Cardinal Dario Castrillon Hoyos, upon having reached the age limit.
– Appointed … Continue reading
We continue our Patristic Rosary Project today with the:
3rd Glorious Mystery: Descent of the Holy Spirit
Pentecost is the birthday of the Church, when the Holy Spirit breathes His own life into the Body and all the members. … Continue reading
Here is a question that came up in the ASK FATHER Question Box. I thought some of you might find it interesting:
Confession If No One Speaks the LanguageAFQB – The ASK FATHER Question Box: Liturgy, Music & The Seven Sacraments: … Continue reading
In the traditional Roman calendar, today is the Feast of Christ the King. This feast, in the traditional calendar, fell on the last Sunday of October. When in Rome, you can do as some traditional Mass adherents do and attend … Continue reading
We continue our Patristic Rosary Project today with the:
2nd Glorious Mystery: The Ascension
Everything about the life of the Lord is a blessing for us. After His resurrection the Lord blessed the Apostles with His presence, gloriously risen. When His earthly … Continue reading
In 2004 I wrote several articles in The Wanderer about the "pro multis" controversy. I have posted them for your convenience.
The Roman Canon / 1st Eucharistic Prayer – 8: “Simili modo”
The Roman Canon / 1st Eucharistic Prayer – 10: “Simili … Continue reading
What has the liturgy of the Mass actually had in the past? We get Ã¢â‚¬Å“pro vobis et pro multis Ã¢â‚¬Â¦ for you and for manyÃ¢â‚¬Â in the formula of consecration from a blending of the accounts in Mark 14:24 (translated from Greek: Ã¢â‚¬Å“this is my blood of the covenant (diatheke) shed for many (tÃƒÂ² peri pollÃƒÂ´n)Ã¢â‚¬Â) and Matthew 26:28 also says Ã¢â‚¬Å“for manyÃ¢â‚¬Â together with Luke 22:20 (translated from Greek: Ã¢â‚¬Å“Likewise also the cup, after the supper, saying Ã¢â‚¬ËœThis cup is the new covenant (diatheke) in my Blood which will be poured out for you.Ã¢â‚¬â„¢Ã¢â‚¬Â The choice to do this had theological significance. Our patristic sources, such as the writings of the 4th c Doctor of the Church St. Ambrose of Milan when describing the words of consecration in the Eucharistic liturgy, have pro multis and not pro omnibus, etc. The liturgical formulas were from Scripture.
The 4th c. Doctor of the Church St. Jerome, who translated from Greek and Hebrew texts into Latin giving us a Bible translation called the Vulgata, chose to use pro multis when translating the Greek tÃƒÂ² peri pollÃƒÂ´n (genitive plural of polus) in describing JesusÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ words at the Last Supper. In Greek polus means Ã¢â‚¬Å“manyÃ¢â‚¬Â or Ã¢â‚¬Å“muchÃ¢â‚¬Â or even Ã¢â‚¬Å“mostÃ¢â‚¬Â as in the majority: it does not mean Ã¢â‚¬Å“allÃ¢â‚¬Â. In the ancient Church, no one said Ã¢â‚¬Å“for allÃ¢â‚¬Â instead of Ã¢â‚¬Å“for manyÃ¢â‚¬Â. In the Greek Gospel accounts of the Last Supper, Jesus uses a form polus Ã¢â‚¬Å“manyÃ¢â‚¬Â. The liturgical rites of the East retained a form of polus. The rites of the Latin West have ever used pro multis. Continue reading
Looking at the same verses mentioned in the Catechism of the Council of Trent Jeremias, clearly having an axe to grind against someone, says of the Ã¢â‚¬Å“exclusiveÃ¢â‚¬Â use of polloÃƒÂ:
Ã¢â‚¬Å“This is the question whether the broad interpretation of polloÃƒÂ corresponds to the original sense of Mk. 10:45; 14:24 or whether we have here a secondary and more comprehensive understanding designed to avoid the offence of a restriction of the scope of the atoning work of Jesus to Ã¢â‚¬ËœmanyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢Ã¢â‚¬Â (pp. 543-44).
The foundation for our present translation was JeremiasÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ rereading of Scripture so as to avoid the offense in Catholic doctrine. Also, since Catholics know what the Church teaches, it will be okay adopt Ã¢â‚¬Å“for allÃ¢â‚¬Â. We will have to continue with JeremiasÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ argument next week. And yes, readers, the WDTPRS version of the consecration of the chalice will be coming soon. Continue reading
Was this obscuring compromise worth it for ecumenical reasons? I have no idea and I will leave that to my betters. However, to my mind this is an age when we need greater clarity not more nuances, a stronger sense of our Catholic faith and not something fuzzy. I do not think that ecumenical dialogue, as desirable as it can be when it is authentic, benefits from Catholics blurring their own teaching about how the fruits of the Lord JesusÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ Sacrifice will only be accepted by many even though He gave Himself up for all. By saying Ã¢â‚¬Å“for manyÃ¢â‚¬Â the Church does not teach that God cannot and does not save non-Catholics through the merits of the LordÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Sacrifice! But, even if the number of the many who accept the fruits is beyond the reckoning of man, it is not going to be the Ã¢â‚¬Å“totalityÃ¢â‚¬Â, all of mankind, everyone who ever lived. If counting the elect is impossible for us, that mysterious number will not be beyond God who knew it before Creation. The Church taught clearly what this meant in a time of great upheaval and theological revolution. This teaching has been formally upheld in recent years. It is not in our best interests as a Ã¢â‚¬Å“Church in the modern worldÃ¢â‚¬Â to leave Ã¢â‚¬Å“for allÃ¢â‚¬Â as the translation for pro multis. We must return to Ã¢â‚¬Å“for manyÃ¢â‚¬Â and then teach, teach, teachÃ¢â‚¬Â¦and embrace in charitable dialog all who will wonder what we mean or will seek to say we are wrong. Continue reading