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  • 28 August 2008

    A seminary teaching men to “Say the Black, Do the Red”

    CATEGORY: SESSIUNCULUM — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 4:08 pm

    I got a nice note via from a seminarian (edited):

    Hi Father

    Ive just started as a seminarian in , to begin training for the _.  In all the negativity that surrounds many seminaries nowadays, i thought id send you this little nugget. 

    We newbies only arrived last week, and the place is brilliant, brilliant brilliant. 

    This is shown by two examples.  First we had a lecture on liturgical practices, and the formation priest who was giving the lecture at one point said "Basically, when it comes to it, its simple, say the black, do the red!" 

    Then, just now, i was in my first lesson of our introduction to theology classes, and about 5 minutes in, our teacher gets a pen, says "Now, this concept is key to what we are studying, and to how we will look at the Catechism" and writes in big letters across the board "HERMENEUTIC OF CONTINUITY" and then proceeded to go in depth as to how important this term is when looking at the Council and at the Catechism.

    My colleagues and I are extremely happy to be here!

    • • • • • •

    11 Comments

    1. Seminarian,

      If you think it prudent, may I ask – where are you? If this place is as good as you say it is, I’d be happy to send them a check.

      Comment by Jon — 28 August 2008 @ 4:15 pm
    2. SING the black, do the red.

      Comment by Charles R. Williams — 28 August 2008 @ 4:34 pm
    3. Laudetur Iesus Christus! Deo gratias! This has made my day!

      Comment by Geoffrey — 28 August 2008 @ 4:49 pm
    4. Brick by brick, seminarian by seminarian…

      Comment by Derik Castillo — 28 August 2008 @ 5:59 pm
    5. As someone exploring vocational possibilities I would be most interested to know where this took place.

      Comment by JondePoer — 28 August 2008 @ 6:02 pm
    6. Fr Z., Remember this post whenever you are feeling depressed and/or tired. This seminarian, his school, and his teacher(s) are what the Holy Spirit is guiding you for. Your tireless work is making a change for all of us out in the pews and the world. Brick by Brick.

      And a big thanks to the unnamed seminarian for his note to Father.

      John

      Comment by John — 28 August 2008 @ 6:11 pm
    7. I second JondePoer. I’d love to know where this is too. But I understand if it’s not to be made known. :-(

      Comment by Martin — 28 August 2008 @ 7:12 pm
    8. I wish the news were this good all over! A student friar in a Dominican studium recently reported to me that his intro to theological methods class is using a textbook titled, “Freeing Theology: The Essentials of Theology in Feminist Perspective,” by Catherine M. Lacugna

      Guess the bookstore was all out of Roger Haight, Peter Phan, Jon Sobrino, ad nau.

      Comment by PNP, OP — 29 August 2008 @ 12:43 am
    9. Wonderful! Deo gratias!

      I don’t know how to do it but could Fr Z or someone post this fortuante seminarian’s message on Damian Thompson’s Holy Smoke blog. First blog about parish closures would be fine. We’ve just been bemoaning the damage done in our seminaries for the last 40 years. Some of the stuff makes your hair stand on end. Talk about ‘the smoke of Satan’! We’re very depressed here in UK and need cheering up.
      Bless you all and thanks again to Fr Z.
      PS Got the Pope Benedict’s Latin Rosary CDs today. Comment on appropriate page below.

      Comment by Jane Fulthorpe — 29 August 2008 @ 6:55 am
    10. Father Z, I didn’t know you also taught in a seminary! [I don’t and I have never said I do. – Fr. Z] You are one busy guy. There’s an outside chance that the formation professor
      is an avid reader of your site. I hope so! Regards, Tom

      Comment by TJM — 29 August 2008 @ 9:05 am
    11. I wonder which seminary this is. I just started major seminary last week and in our brief lecture on liturgical music and the breviary, we were told to “say the black and do the red.”

      Comment by Another Seminarian — 29 August 2008 @ 6:19 pm

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