Just sittin’ here, wondering….

It is gloriously sunny, the Vatican flag is flapping in front of the house in honor of the MP and CDF, I have made myself an incredibly dry Bombay Sapphire Martini and I am thinking.

If this blog weren’t called "What Does The Prayer Really Say?", what would it be called?

It is so-called because that is what the column in The Wanderer is called. 

So, were I to change gears and start writing about other things:

a) What would I change the column too and write about if not liturgical translations (or what additional column would I write) and

b) What would this blog be called if it weren’t WDTPRS if it were more detached from liturgical translations?


Please be just a little attached to reality?

In the meantime, I am badly in need of some supper and, probably a DVD movie rather than the crud on TV.  I am not sure I will watch the All Star Game tonight.


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  1. Augustine says:

    The name could have something to do with your biretta o{]:¬) but I’m not sure how.

    By the way, have you ever seen The Scarlet and the Black with Gregory Peck and Christopher Plumer? It’s Excellent and Catholic.

  2. danphunter1 says:

    I think you just imagined into being your new column by setting forth one of your requests for new ideas.
    The new column will be called: PBJALATR,or, “Please be just a little attached to reality.
    In this column you examine the moves and ask questions of the USCCB.

  3. Michael E. Lawrence says:

    How about What Does Summorum Pontificum Really Say?

    Judging by some of the diocesan press releases I’ve seen, we could use something like that.

  4. Michael E. Lawrence says:

    BTW, that was meant to be silly rather than sour.

  5. Syriacus says:

    Responsa mea:

    1) A new column (whether additional or not) analyzing in depth each time a “study case” of a certain diocese/bishop/chancery (in the USA but not only) in implementing the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontifucum (Maybe two cases each time: a particularly virtuous and its negative counterpart…)

    2) “What did the Pontiff really decree?” (WDTPRD)

  6. Ryan S. says:

    How could you not watch the All-Star game? Are you a communist or something? This is the year the National League wins it, I tell ya!

  7. ray from mn says:

    Thoreau-like: On Sabine Farm

  8. RomaLindy says:


    I really enjoy reading your website and all the comments. If you were to
    change gears and start talking about other things I would suggest explaining
    the actions done by the priest at mass. You could call the website “Why Do
    They Do That” WDTDT
    I would be interested in having the actions during mass explained.

    Go American League!!! Go Justin, Torii and Johan

  9. prof. basto says:


    You don’t need to change the title to broaden the scope of the blog.
    Write about any Catholic related subject you like, but keep the title.

    Keep it because… its a classic of the Catholic blogosphere.

    Everybody knows it, the corresponding internet adress is a short,
    quick-to-type adress. It is a respected, well known, established brand.

    You know, Rorate (Caeli), The Movement (The New Liturgical
    Movement), Sandro (Magister) at http://www.chiesa, Gerald, a.k.a.
    Gerald at the Cafeteria (the Cafeteria is Closed), The Hermeneutic
    (of Continuity, the blog), the deplorable Rocco (Palmo and his Whispers (in
    the Loggia), Shouts in the Piazza, Zadok (the Roman), etc, and your WDTPRS, are all established
    names. I still call Ratzinger
    Fan Club Ratzinger Fan Club, instead of Against the Grain…

    And I think no other blogger will be offended if I tell you that your
    blog is especially great in the constellation of blogs. So names such
    as WDTPRS, The Movement, Rorate, Cafeteria, can’t change. So please, keep
    the current name.

    What in the past was held as great, continues being great, and is great for us
    also. And it cannot be all of a sudden entirely forbidden or even considered harmful. It behooves all of us to preserve the riches which have developed :)

  10. Tim Ferguson says:

    Hmmm, Man with a black hat is taken…

    Pater et Magister might be a bit presumptuous…

    How about Dark Roast Catholicism: strong and satisfying.

  11. Geoffrey says:

    I don’t know… if things change too much, I will be praying for a Motu proprio to restore WDTPRS… or at the very least, place it on an equal footing with whatever tries to replace it! ;-)

    Father: Perhaps you would one day write some reviews of your favourite movies and such? Something to help guide us away or through the crud on TV! :-)

  12. michigancatholic says:

    I hope you don’t get detached from translations, Father. You really help us out!

  13. Joshua says:

    WDTCRS – “What Does The Church Really Say” – covers all bases.

  14. RBrown says:

    How about:

    WWSAS? What would St Augustine Say?

    After a few martinis it would be: WhaWouSaiAugustiSaaaaaaaaaaaaay?

  15. Legisperitus says:

    When Does The Pontifical Restoration Start?

  16. MrTips says:

    What Does the Martini Really Say?
    (no Milanese pun intended)…

  17. Antonius says:

    Is ‘B for biretta’ already taken?

  18. Mark says:

    How about any of the following:

    Liturgia et Doctrina Enarrabilis


    Liturgia et Doctrina Clarui Sunt


    Liturgia et Doctrina Conluxi Sunt

    What do you think Father?

    Con Fide,


  19. Mark says:

    Pardon me Father Z…

    RBrown, please email at mfranks@msn.com. I tried emailing as you requested yesterday but it “bounced.” I will be happy to resend my response to you.


  20. Diane says:

    I have to think on this a little more.

    Initial stabs

    – Latin, Liturgy, Patristics & More (LLPM)
    – veritas simplex oratio est

    Since you want to expand beyond what prayers really say, this one is disqualified:

    – sed quid in infernos dicit

  21. Diane says:

    Ok – those two joined in the same line are actually two separate entries.

    – veritas simplex oratio est

    That stands alone!

  22. Kris says:

    Well, Father, symbolically, you could always have, instead of the doomsday clock, a Great Schism clock….detailing the various eruptions from now, onwards re: the MP, that are involved in its countdown to 12:00! Of course this could just be short lived – one way or the other!

  23. How about “Moti Proprii”?

    Kinda catchy, that.

  24. supertradmom says:

    Please, please, please do not change the name. I am a very busy mom constantly multitasking and I have finally memorized several great Catholic blog spots, of which yours is the easiest to remember! Have pity on us and keep the grand old name.

  25. lsouthwick says:

    Did AT&T stop being AT&T just because they left the telegraph business?
    No, they just ignored and quietly dropped the full name.

  26. thetimman says:

    Saint Louis Catholic Fan Club?

  27. Mark says:


    You don’t have to memorize any blog URLs (addresses). Simply save them to your “favorites” (or equivalent) in your browser. You must have a great memory, however. Perhaps you should use your powerful memory to study Latin. :-)

    Stat missa extraordinaria dum volvitur missa ordinaria.

    Con Fide,


  28. Father, My input to your queries:

    a) Vatican news-which you do now but changing the title of the blog may help new readers to expect Vatican commentary in addition to the liturgical unveiling. You do both very well.

    b) The Ruminations of Father Z. Tagline: “I may be last, but you should come to me first”

    Oh, that Veuve was good! Can you tell? :-)

  29. Bailey Walker says:

    WDTCRT: “What does the Church really teach?”

  30. Hammerbrecher says:

    Here are a few:

    “Pop goes the Veuve”

    “No one expects an inquisition”

    “The Light in the Perfidis Liturgical Darkness”

  31. John says:

    Though your blog might be experiencing organic development, it remains your blog nonetheless. I’m with the professor and supertradmom; keep the name, even if the scope of your writing extends beyond its venerable charter.

    God bless, and keep up the good work!

  32. Guy Power says:

    Taking a hint from the first post, by Augustinus …. How about: “Gules and Sable” — of course using heraldic terms for Red and Black:

    You provided a great example in the matrix of your earlier post below; expecially one particular clarification:

    USCCB translation:
    …Latin Church liturgical books restored and partly renewed,….

    Fr. Z’s translation:
    … approved for the Latin Church restored and, in part, altered liturgical books,….

    Wow! Who “Troutpersonized” the first Latin translation above? What a DIFFERENCE a word makes!!

  33. mike says:

    Father Z,

    Ditto a few of the others – If it ain’t broke, Don’t fix it.

    Is the name of the farm(ette) pronounced “suh – bee’ – neh”? Named for an old girlfriend?

    If the anti-spam word is a holy name or a holy pronoun(?)- is it a sin to use lower case?


  34. RBrown says:

    Is the name of the farm(ette) pronounced “suh – bee’ – neh”? Named for an old girlfriend?
    Comment by mike

    The old girlfriend was the home of the Roman Poet Horace


  35. RBrown says:

    Another possibility is:

    WCWTLS–Who cares what the liberals say?

  36. Anna says:

    WDYHaTV (Why do you have a TV?)

  37. Janet says:

    Fr. Z, instead of pouncing on incorrect/lame english translations of the liturgy, you could shift the scope of your work to the papal documents. We need someone to make sure we get a better english version of the Motu Proprio, for example, than what the USCCB would like us to read.
    The real beauty in this slightly shifted mission is that you wouldn’t have to change your website address at all. WDTPRS would now become “What Did The Pope Really Say?”

    Alternatively, if you’d like to take on the mission of helping get the MP instituted in the more problematic dioceses, you could point out the errors or subterfuges of certain bishops, and then only change one letter of your website: WDTBRS would be “What Did That Bishop Really Say?”

    Ok I’m all out of ideas. :-)

  38. RCR says:

    Keep the name. Many of the Catholic blogs I visit (yours is the first I visit at each day) frequently refer their readers to your site. “WDTPRS” seems to have become a brand name of sorts (so has “Fr. Z”, I think). But you should always feel free to write about anything that interests you, regardless of what the blog is titled. It’s the quality of your writing — and the thinking behind it — that brings me back again and again.

    And I echo michigancatholic: No matter how good the translations are it’s always best to go back to the source and you’ve been great about helping many of us with that. Besides, as Janet said, there’s still papal documents, also the documents of Vatican II. Moreover, there are still other liturgical frontiers to explore: the remaining six sacraments; perhaps even the current translation of the Liturgy of the Hours. Your work may not yet be done.

    Whatever you decide to do, please know that you have a faithful reader in the sad liturgical landscape that is the Archdiocese of Los Angeles. Pray for us, and for our archbishop.

    God bless you.

  39. Diane says:

    Ok Father Z, I think this one fits you….

    The Church and the World


    The Church, the Liturgy, and the World

  40. Boniface says:

    Dear Fr,

    Don’t change a thing in your blog, it is excellent the way that it is, including the name. However, if it will change I am sure it will occur naturally like the liturgy is supposed to. However, keep on getting better,as you do !

  41. Gus says:

    Fr. Z,

    How about “Say the Black, Do the Red”?

    Thanks for your great blog!

  42. Nicola says:


    I enjoy the history lessons about the church. I have often thought that it would
    be great to have a column devoted to the history of the Roman Church and the
    liturgy throughout the centuries.

  43. cor ad cor loquitur says:

    Whatever you change the name to (and I think WDTPRS is just fine) I wish you would bring back more of the patristics and in-depth analysis of the liturgy (not just tranlation but also explication; not just Tridentine but also Novus Ordo) that have made your writing and podcasts so valuable. Personally I would love to see far less mockery of the Troutmans and Sister Joan Chichesters and the like. They tend to be self-mocking, anyway.

  44. Another thought: You could do a seperate blog or totally refocus this one and focus on the Extraordinary form. You could have posts and PODCAzT’s that are “how-tos” for priests and servers. What the prayers and postures mean. Proper attire. Where to obtain vestments, chalices etc. Suggestions. History of the Mass etc. I’m sure you can fit commentary on the Church Fathers in there somewhere. :-)

    The Extraordinary form could use a kick to get it going by someone who knows it well.

    Of course, the beauty of having your own blog means you can still incorporate whatever you like: cuisine, movie reviews, humor, photos, etc.

  45. Ioannes says:

    “What does the Vatican Really Say, and how modernists purposely misinterpret it”

  46. Kathy says:

    “What am I drinking right now?”


  47. Ignatius says:

    Catholic News and Weather with Fr. Z

  48. Xavier says:

    The EIL NETWORK (Excellence in Liturgy) ;-)

    I like WDTPRS. It covers all our worship; our whole relationship with the Lord because it is a search for meaning, for Truth.

  49. Dana Cole says:

    I ditto everything RCR says.

  50. Everyone: Thanks for the comments and suggestions!


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