Dublin: TLM “goes from strength to strength”

I got this piece of news via e-mail:

Dear Fr Z.,

The chaplaincy set up in the archdiocese of Dublin to cater for those attached to the Mass and sacraments in the extraordinary form goes from strength to strength.

Daily Mass is celebrated in the church assigned to the chaplaincy namely St Kevin’s Harrington Street.Sung Mass is celebrated every Sunday and holy day.

There have been quite a number of baptisms and first Holy Communions. Yesterday it was announced that His Grace the Archbishop will preside at Solemn Mass on 29th June and will administer Confirmation in the old rite on that occasion.

This will be the first time since the 1960s that Confirmation will be so administered in Ireland.

Numbers attending continue to increase.

The music is of a very high quality. Yesterday Lassus Missa Octavi Toni was sung. On Pentecost Palestrina’s Missa Papae Marcelli will be sung whilst on Trinity Sunday Victoria’s Missa O Quam Gloriosum will be sung.

Pope Benedict has made his mark in Dublin!

Thank you for your excellent blog which I read every day. It is a mine of useful information and commentary.

God bless your work.


Brick by brick… a fine tradition in Ireland:TLM hodcarriers doing their part! 


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  1. Malta says:

    “Victoria’s Missa O Quam Gloriosum will be sung.”

    Sounds heavenly. I spent part of a summer attending mass in Dublin, and even in the ordinary form, mass was uniformly prayed with great solemnity.

  2. Patrick says:

    Visitors to Ireland can check out the chaplaincy website for details of Masses etc.: http://www.latinmass.dublindiocese.ie

  3. Mark M says:

    This is good to see. :)

    I was a bit disappointed at the negative response we got to “Trad Vocations” and th other vocational blog from Ireland, but this makes me happy! :D

  4. jaykay says:

    Because of logistics and travelling I only get to go to the evening mass on First Fridays
    at 7pm… but it is such a beautiful way to finish a busy week. I’m now going to make more effort to get to the 8 am, at least on a Monday, which will be a great way to start off the week. Thank you indeed, Abp. Martin, and the chaplaincy in Harrington Street.

  5. Peter Karl T. Perkins says:

    Brick by brick?

    It will take a lot of bricks in Ireland. While the situation has improved markedly in Dublin, it was, after all, one of the four sees which had the old Mass every Sunday before S.P. Today, that number has decreased temporarily from four to three (owing, I think, to the indisposition of one celebrant). In other words, there has been an increase of zero in dioceses having the old Mass every Sunday. Only four out of twenty-six have it every Sunday, and these do not include the important sees of Armagh, Cork, Waterford, or Down and Connor.

    Special prayers need to be said for traditionalists in Ireland (and in Scotland). The situation is much better under S.P. in England and Wales, in France, in Germany, in Belgium, in Italy, in Spain, even in the Netherlands.


  6. Patrick says:

    Dear Mr Perkins,

    I am in awe of your excellent knowledge of the international trad scene, and of your prudent assessment of all matters.

    All I would point out is that, although Dublin is only one see, it is by far the largest, with almost a quarter of the island’s population. What happens in Dublin will gradually spread. And what is happening in Dublin is one of the best attended traditional Masses in the world, with the full sacramental service. And fully DIOCESAN, which is really important, since it gives it a great air of normality.

  7. Peter Karl T. Perkins says:

    Dear Patrick:

    I am very happy that you have enlightened the list about the fact that one-quarter of the Irish faithful do live in Dublin. That’s quite true.

    However, what I was pointing to is little progress in Ireland since the publication of S.P. Before 7 July, 2007, there were four Irish dioceses (out of 26) which had the old Mass every Sunday. Today, there are three (but it should soon go back up to four).

    Now, it is true that there has been progress in Dublin, where there was already an every-Sunday Mass. It is also true that there have been good signs in other parts of the Island. These are mainly single Mass for special occasions. They suggest future promise. But we really need to see some progress for every-Sunday Mass. My word, even tiny New Zealand can now boast real progress in just ten months.

    Several years ago, the old Mass was offered every single day in the very important Archdiocese of Cork. Then the celebrant died and all those Masses ceased. It would be very wonderful to see something for Cork and for other important sees, such as Waterford, Armagh, and Down and Connor. It is outrageous that these places have no every-Sunday Masses. So I will continue to pray for progress in the Isle of the Saints.

    The situation for Scotland is just the same: a real disappointment.

    On the other side, we see substantial progress in England, in the Dioceses of Brentwood, Clifton, Shrewsbury, and Lancaster. There is likely more to come for the Diocese of Middlesbrough too. At this rate, Protestant England will have the old Mass in every see, and Catholic Ireland will be where it was ten years ago. That just doesn’t seem right to me. Even the Archdiocese of Cardfiff, in Wales, now has the old Mass every Sunday. Wales is even more Protestant than England is–in fact, much of it is Methodist. What on earth is going on?


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