"If the Church were to accommodate herself to the world in any way that would entail a turning away from the Cross, this would not lead to a renewal of the Church, but only to her death."
SHOPPING ONLINE? Please, come here first!
Get updates in your inbox
About this blog…
“This blog is like a fusion of the Baroque ‘salon’ with its well-tuned harpsichord around which polite society gathered for entertainment and edification and, on the other hand, a Wild West “saloon” with its out-of-tune piano and swinging doors, where everyone has a gun and something to say. Nevertheless, we try to point our discussions back to what it is to be Catholic in this increasingly difficult age, to love God, and how to get to heaven.” – Fr. Z
Coat of Arms by D Burkart
Recent Comments
Fr. John Zuhlsdorf on ASK FATHER: Is the priesthood dominated by men who are varsity-level players or 3rd and 4th stringers?: “TonyB: I don’t make anything out Sheen’s defense of Chardin, since I haven’t read it or seen it. However, firstly,…”
Suburbanbanshee on Daily Rome Shot 1692: Farsighted Roman: “That is a French Book of Hours at the Morgan Library, containing the Hours of the Virgin and the Office…”
TonyB on ASK FATHER: Is the priesthood dominated by men who are varsity-level players or 3rd and 4th stringers?: “You bring up Chardin, and I’m personally dubious about his theology, but what do you make of Ven. Fulton Sheen’s…”
Sue in soCal on PODCAST – Voices of the Fathers 05 – St. Jerome’s wide open spaces: “Thank you for this, Fr. Z. I appreciate the Latin even though my understanding is below rudimentary.”
revueltos67 on Daily Rome Shot 1692: Farsighted Roman: “Black to move and mate in 4 1. … Qh3+ 2. Kg1 {or Bg2} Rxd1+ 3. Bxd1 {or Qf1} Re1+…”
MB on ASK FATHER: Is the priesthood dominated by men who are varsity-level players or 3rd and 4th stringers?: “Someday, I would love to meet a priest who doesn’t use his education, his travels, and his office to make…”
Alex on ASK FATHER: Is the priesthood dominated by men who are varsity-level players or 3rd and 4th stringers?: “I agree that priests can excel in diverse areas and that prayerfulness and goodness are more important than brilliance. That…”
-
Recent Posts
- From “The Private Diary of Bishop F. Atticus McButterpants” – 26-07-22 – Fr Kevin caught embezzling
- KaBOOM – Fr. Joseph Gelineau: “The Roman rite as we knew it no longer exists. It is destroyed.”
- Your Sunday Sermon Notes – 14th Sunday after Pentecost (N.O.: 22nd Ordinary)
- Daily Rome Shot 1692: Farsighted Roman
- ASK FATHER: Is the priesthood dominated by men who are varsity-level players or 3rd and 4th stringers?
- 29 August – The Beheading of John the Baptist: Corruption exposed and the “brass ring” revealed
- PODCAST – Voices of the Fathers 05 – St. Jerome’s wide open spaces
- Kudos to the Bishop of Wheeling-Charleston
- Daily Rome Shot 1691: When Augustine and his mother Monica were reunited after 1617 years
- Roundup of books on St. Augustine of Hippo
- ASK FATHER: Priests tells me to say Act of Contrition outside the confessional, afterward
- ASK FATHER: Is the Collect from Leo’s “Mass for Creation” heretical?
- 27 August – St. Joseph Calasanz
- Over at Substack… I’m taking baby steps there… I posted about Jesuit Thomas Reese’s latest idiocy at RNS
- Daily Rome Shot 1690: without shame
- PODCAST – Voices of the Fathers 04 – The Pilgrimage of Egeria
- “People reject the Church because she speaks against the sins they love” – St. Augustine…. NOT! Wherein Fr. Z corrects and then rants.
- A four letter word
- PODCAST – Voices of the Fathers 03 – Should Christians Go To The Public Games?
- Daily Rome Shot 1689: Oaf For A Year!
- Daily Rome Shot 1688: Let’s use the word for these people… evil
- PODCAST – Voices of the Fathers 02 – The Martyrdom of St. Cyprian
- “These, Reverend Father, are no mere words, nor lifeless thoughts, but they are arrows shot from the strong bow of God Himself…”.
- PODCAzT – Voices of the Fathers 01 – The Scillitan Martyrs
- Daily Rome Shot 1687: Space jellyfish alert!
- Rediscovering Listening and Service: Toward a Definition of “Synodality” (aka “walking together”)
- ASK FATHER: “I have been looking for a retirement community close by a stable TLM. Do you have any clues on that?” Fr. Z asks help from the readership.
- Fathers! Pay attention. Video of an attack on the Eucharist during Communion at Sunday Mass. Nasty and planned.
- Wherein Fr. Z and St. Augustine reflect on the Samaritans of the 12th and 13th Sundays after Pentecost (Vetus Ordo) and the danger of false teaching in the Church today
- Daily Rome Shot 1686
CLICK and say your daily offerings!
Federated Computer… your safe and private alternative to big biz corporations that hate us while taking our money and mining our data. Have an online presence large or small? Catholic DIOCESE? Cottage industry? See what Federated has to offer. Save money and gain peace of mind.
“Until the Lord be pleased to settle, through the instrumentality of the princes of the Church and the lawful ministers of His justice, the trouble aroused by the pride of a few and the ignorance of some others, let us with the help of God endeavor with calm and humble patience to render love for hatred, to avoid disputes with the silly, to keep to the truth and not fight with the weapons of falsehood, and to beg of God at all times that in all our thoughts and desires, in all our words and actions, He may hold the first place who calls Himself the origin of all things.”
- Prosper of Aquitaine (+c.455), De gratia Dei et libero arbitrio contra Collatorem 22.61
Do you want to show some appreciation?
Polls
Loading ...ABORTION PILL RESCUE NETWORK
- The most evident mark of God’s anger and the most terrible castigation He can inflict upon the world are manifested when He permits His people to fall into the hands of clerics who are priests more in name than in deed, priests who practice the cruelty of ravening wolves rather than the charity and affection of devoted shepherds.
St. John Eudes
Your support is important. Thanks in advance.
To donate monthly I prefer Zelle because it doesn't extract fees. Use
frz AT wdtprs DOT comDonate using VENMO
GREAT BEER from Traditional Benedictine Monks in Italy
Good coffee and tea. Help monks.
I use this when I travel both in these USA and abroad. Very useful. Fast enough for Zoom. I connect my DMR (ham radio) through it. If you use my link, they give me more data. A GREAT back up.
Help support Fr. Z’s Gospel of Life work at no cost to you. Do you need a Real Estate Agent? Calling these people is the FIRST thing you should do!
Don’t rely on popes, bishops and priests.
“He [Satan] will set up a counter-Church which will be the ape of the Church because, he the devil, is the ape of God. It will have all the notes and characteristics of the Church, but in reverse and emptied of its divine content. It will be a mystical body of the anti-Christ that will in all externals resemble the mystical body of Christ. In desperate need for God, whom he nevertheless refuses to adore, modern man in his loneliness and frustration will hunger more and more for membership in a community that will give him enlargement of purpose, but at the cost of losing himself in some vague collectivity.”
“Who is going to save our Church? Not our bishops, not our priests and religious. It is up to you, the people. You have the minds, the eyes, and the ears to save the Church. Your mission is to see that your priests act like priests, your bishops act like bishops.”- Fulton Sheen
Therefore, ACTIVATE YOUR CONFIRMATION and get to work!
Send Snail Mail to Fr. Z
Fr John Zuhlsdorf
Tridentine Mass Society of Madison
733 Struck St.
PO BOX 44603
Madison, WI 53744-4603
For email HERE
- “The modern habit of doing ceremonial things unceremoniously is no proof of humility; rather it proves the offender's inability to forget himself in the rite, and his readiness to spoil for every one else the proper pleasure of ritual.”
- C.S. Lewis
This blog has to earn its keep!
PLEASE subscribe via PayPal if it is useful. Zelle and Wise are better, but PayPal is convenient.
A monthly subscription donation means I have steady income I can plan on. I put you my list of benefactors for whom I pray and for whom I often say Holy Mass.
In view of the rapidly changing challenges I now face, I would like to add more $10/month subscribers. Will you please help?
For a one time donation...
To donate monthly I prefer Zelle because it doesn't extract fees. Use
frz AT wdtprs DOT comAs for Latin…
"But if, in any layman who is indeed imbued with literature, ignorance of the Latin language, which we can truly call the 'catholic' language, indicates a certain sluggishness in his love toward the Church, how much more fitting it is that each and every cleric should be adequately practiced and skilled in that language!" - Pius XI
"Let us realize that this remark of Cicero (Brutus 37, 140) can be in a certain way referred to [young lay people]: 'It is not so much a matter of distinction to know Latin as it is disgraceful not to know it.'" - St. John Paul II
Let us pray…
Grant unto thy Church, we beseech Thee, O merciful God, that She, being gathered together by the Holy Ghost, may be in no wise troubled by attack from her foes. O God, who by sin art offended and by penance pacified, mercifully regard the prayers of Thy people making supplication unto Thee,and turn away the scourges of Thine anger which we deserve for our sins. Almighty and Everlasting God, in whose Hand are the power and the government of every realm: look down upon and help the Christian people that the heathen nations who trust in the fierceness of their own might may be crushed by the power of thine Arm. Through our Lord Jesus Christ, Thy Son, who liveth and reigneth with Thee in the unity of the Holy Ghost, God, world without end. R. Amen.
PLEASE RESPOND. Pretty pleeeease?
Loading ...WDTPRS POLL
Loading ...





















“in any way” , how does this phrase reconcile with the hundreds and hundreds of statements from Pope Paul VI, Bishops and Priests both during and after the Second Vatican Council, when it was so often said “the Church must open herself (accommodate) to the modern world”? The entire NO Mass was writeen in a way to drop it Catholocity, no? That surely is turning away from the cross, but I am sure many will argue a loophole or split hairs saying well, not really. Turning to face the people, with a Priest back to the cross could be interpreted as such as well.Not only the numerous examples of how it has happened but the statements of the hierarchy did and sometimes still do involve the exact opposite of what the Pope says. That is one of the biggest problem today is the ambiguous or contradictory statements coming from Rome and the hierarchy that lay people just don’t have the stomach to “finesse them” into a hermeneutic of continuity. We just want clear, concise, no loophole interpretive statements.
AMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN !
Where did Car. Ratzinger write this wonderful assertion ?
Wonderful quote. Where does it appear in his writings?
The protestants turned from the Cross and we can see where it has led. A Crossless Christianity, Archbishop Sheen called it. And how many expensive, ugly, barren modern Catholic Churches have no Crucifix other than the required processional one? How many only have an image of the Risen Christ? We indeed must also preach and pray as did St. Paul who knew Christ and Him crucified.
Blaming the protestants isn’t the answer to everything, JosephMary. The contemporary Catholic church does a whale of a job denying the cross too.
Amen! It’s time that people start facing up and adhering to what the Church teaches, whether they like it or not. And those in authority need to charitably use it to show people the truth. Without compromise!
“to accommodate herself to the world”
I just returned from 11:30 Mass in my parish. Children’s choir (God bless them) sang mostly treacly-sweet songs, though a few were ok. No Latin at all. At the closing prayer, our Pastor scrubbed the closing (“The Lord be with you.”) to bring to our attention the GREAT singing today, and so we all applauded the choir. Then, after he processed out, we applauded again.
I feel utterly helpless here. I don’t know our paster personally–he’s new–but I wanted to say, “Father do you realize the Pope considers applause at Mass completely unacceptable, as it shows a serious misunderstanding about what the Mass is?”
Thank God I resisted the temptation, and just left w. my kids.
This “accomodation” is as pernicious as ditching “Veritatis Splendor” as I see it. The sober, but joyful, chaste beauty of our liturgy has been upended for a Disney-style celebration that veils the REAL PRESENCE of our Risen Lord.
Amen to that quote of our Papa when he was a Cardinal!
It says it all!
We need to watch our language here – or more precisely our use of language.
“Open to” does not necessarily mean “accommodate” (it might be to some, not to others including me)
The Church is indefectible. hence it cannot turn away from the Cross, for the Body of Christ hung on that cross once for all.
And the Church cannot die, so what is Papa Ratzinger saying? (what’s the context?) [If memory serves, this was in the context of an examination of the overly anthropocentric tone of Gaudium et spes, which can go very wrong when the proper corrective paragraphs do not correct the false reading.]
Modernism (as defined) and the abuse of “higher” Biblical criticism go back to the turn of the 20th Century. Post-modernism, with its lack of objective truth, may be easier to attack. The Church has been successful against both with its emphasis on objective truth.
But readers may want to remember that the organized Church has been under attack since even before it was big enough to be organized. There’s no need to be surprised.
Salutationes omnibus.
Hi, Mike,
Could you please help me a second, and please understand I’m not trying to criticize you? First, I agree with the Holy Father and with you, in that I believe applause is inappropriate at Mass, especially when the bloody “music ministers” are applauded.
Why is it, then, that the Holy Father is surrounded by applause whenever he offers Mass in the open? I remember his first Christmas Eve Mass as Pope, and there was applause everywhere at the conclusion of Mass.
Mike, could you help me, here, and can anyone reading enlighten me? I’m being serious; I’m not trying to cause trouble, be disrespectful or start a fight. I mean no harm.
Bob–no problem, although I have never been to a Mass with the Holy Father present. My sense, from what you say, and from experience of Masses w. Cardinals present, etc., is that specifically applauding the music of a liturgy is what the problem is, for it’s an offering, an act of worship, of prayer. As my 14 yr old son says, we don’t applaud after praying (“good prayer, man”).
Applause for B16, for his presence, his words in a homily, is in a separate category. That’s how I see it, although I may be off here.
I wonder if Sr. Keehan of the Catholic Health Ass’n. would be able to offer any plausible rationalizations of how this quote might
not apply to her organization. From the post above describing the CHA’s endorsement of the current health care legislation, I’d
say “Sr. Accommodation” should have been her name in religion.