From a reader:
“We are very happy to announce that each Monday in July Fr. Romaeus Cooney OCarm. will celebrate the Carmelite Rite Liturgy at St. Joseph’s Church, 416 3rd Street, Troy NY.
There will also be a Carmelite Rite Missa Cantata on Sunday the 15th to commemorate the Feast of Our Lady of Mount Carmel. Each of these liturgies [Masses!] is at 12pm.”
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on More (bad) news about the Philadelphia Carmel: “This is what happens when we have people in the Vatican who think the movie “Sister Act” was a documentary.”
on Episcopal cathedral in Albuqerque to insult the Church by hosting a fake ordination of a Jesuit-trained “wymyn”. Wherein Fr. Z makes a proposal.: “Years ago I heard a homily on the Real Presence by a good priest. This priest mentioned that when he…”
on Episcopal cathedral in Albuqerque to insult the Church by hosting a fake ordination of a Jesuit-trained “wymyn”. Wherein Fr. Z makes a proposal.: “Her “diaconal ordination” was an especially shabby affair even for the women’s ordination crowd. It took place in the breakfast…” on The Horan of Babylon on “Why Catholics should use preferred gender pronouns and names”: “Horan of Babylon is a problem, so are most Jesuits, German clergy and much of the 2+2=5 hierarchy such as…”
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on The Horan of Babylon on “Why Catholics should use preferred gender pronouns and names”: “This is the more-than-once time the name of Merton has popped up in a conversation with a bunch of lunatics.…”
on More (bad) news about the Philadelphia Carmel: “Pius XII wanted monasteries to be federated or associated. Most did follow the document Sponsa Christi, which, until VDq was…”
on More (bad) news about the Philadelphia Carmel: “Very good points about ownership. One thing to look at is if there is a mortgage on the properties. In…”
on Episcopal cathedral in Albuqerque to insult the Church by hosting a fake ordination of a Jesuit-trained “wymyn”. Wherein Fr. Z makes a proposal.: “I visited her website (it’s an altar to herself) and even listened to one of her homillies, last sunday’s: it…” on Episcopal cathedral in Albuqerque to insult the Church by hosting a fake ordination of a Jesuit-trained “wymyn”. Wherein Fr. Z makes a proposal.: “I visited her website (it’s an altar to herself) and even listened to one of her homillies, last sunday’s: it…”
on More (bad) news about the Philadelphia Carmel: “Something that’s unclear is who actually owns the monastery, the Carmelites or the Archdiocese? Usually it’s the order that owns…”
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Answering the age-old question; what good can come from Troy, NY?
Thanks to Fr. Z’s blog and the good commenters who frequent it, I am grateful to call this parish my spiritual home. The Missa Cantata in the Carmelite Rite is quite beautiful. Thank you for posting, Fr. Z!
The revival of these Roman variant rites is very exciting. Wiki (whose article on this occasion is very good – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmelite_Rite) describes the Carmelite rite as “Roughly speaking, the ancient Carmelite Rite of Mass stands about half way between the Carthusian and the Dominican rites.”
Looking at a chart of comparative prayers against the Dominican rite, there does not appear to be a pre-mass preparation of the chalice; the prayers at the foot of altar are brief; confiteor and absolution are the same pattern; the offertory is shorter than Roman but longer than Dominican. Orate fratres is Roman; Canon is the same throughout. Rubrics have notable differences: covering the altar and candles used. Priest’s communion prayers slightly different.
It is good for those attached to the old Roman rite (EF) to see variants or pre-Pius V versions. Not only does this make one appreciate the beautiful simplicity of the Roman rites but also broaden one’s appreciation for liturgical development over time. That is not something one entirely sees with the NO whose changes are radical in comparison. Nevertheless there is a danger of becoming too set and thinking that the Tridentine rite had been always set in stone and had never changed. It had.
It is a fascinating to think how and why St Pius V revised the missal in the way he did: to restore, sometimes to expand, but to codify what had become loose and vulnerable (errors, omissions, abuses) in the days after the Reformation. This is almost the opposite of the effect (but not the intention) of Paul VI’s changes to the liturgy. So many paradoxes surround the last 50 years in the Church.
The hometown of Bishop Matthew Clark. I’m not sure is this is true, but I once heard that his jersey was retired for either football or basketball at the local Catholic high school.
Wow-how cool! And in one of the most liberal of dioceses!
I’m glad, Father Z, that you put [Masses!] in place of the word ‘Liturgies’. Why is the word ‘Mass’ such a verboten word? ‘Liturgy’ makes me cringe at times!
Geeze…the last knew the mass was part of the Church’s liturgy?!
My native city. So I, at least, am a *second* “good thing from Troy, NY”!
My Uncle Robert had a Solemn High Requiem Mass in the EF (with black vestments!) on his death in March at St. Josephs. Beautiful and very moving.