From a reader:
“We are very happy to announce that each Monday in July Fr. Romaeus Cooney OCarm. will celebrate the Carmelite Rite Liturgy at St. Joseph’s Church, 416 3rd Street, Troy NY.
There will also be a Carmelite Rite Missa Cantata on Sunday the 15th to commemorate the Feast of Our Lady of Mount Carmel. Each of these liturgies [Masses!] is at 12pm.”
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on WDTPRS – 17th Sunday after Pentecost: diabolical contagion: “One might even say that the People of Israel and were “walking together” with the false idols.”
on ASK FATHER: Are evil dreams from the Devil?: “Would interpreting a dream be akin to, let’s say, studying the lore of Pachamama to gain a better understanding of…”
on ROME 22/10 – Day 3: Of a hairy bear, a column, and a case of littering.: “This is my attempt: NICOLAUM MODETTI VIRUM SUUM INCOMPARABILEM MARIA BELLI VXSOR VIDUATA MEMOR PRECE ET LACRYMIS URGET ANNO DOMINI…” on ROME 22/10 – Day 2: Still getting it together and an ASK FATHER question: “White is down and the bishop is hanging. Moving the bishop to safety on b3 is tempting. Moving t0 d7…”
on ROME 22/10 – Day 2: Still getting it together and an ASK FATHER question: “The light squared bishop is threatened by the pawn so I would move him to D5 so as to keep…”
on “They hate the Old Rite because the Enemy has set fear in their hearts.”: “400 years from now, TC will be an asterisk somewhere in the annals of the Church history of post-modern era.…”
on ASK FATHER: 1st Communion at a special Mass rather than at a regular Sunday Mass: “My First Communion was Saturday May 3rd, 2008, at the end of 3rd Grade. I believe we had two Masses,…”
on ROME 22/10 – Day 3: Of a hairy bear, a column, and a case of littering.: “Maria, a widowed wife, remembering the war, surrounds Nicolaus Modetti, her incomparable husband with tears and a prayer. In the…”
on “They hate the Old Rite because the Enemy has set fear in their hearts.”: “I am not so sure of Fr. Hunwicke’s assertion, but then, there are many, many reasons why Modernists HATE the…”
on “They hate the Old Rite because the Enemy has set fear in their hearts.”: “TheCavalierHatherly: Spot-on. And do children really remember the trite homilies about love and kindness and such, or do they remember…” on ROME 22/10 – Day 1: Getting it together: “Is it just my imagination, or is the Roma F1 license plate on that pink car bent to fit the…”
on “They hate the Old Rite because the Enemy has set fear in their hearts.”: “I hope Fr Z’s recommendation leads more people to read Fr Hunwicke’s blog site. I visit it almost as often…” on ASK FATHER: 1st Communion at a special Mass rather than at a regular Sunday Mass: “With respect to comments above about getting people to be at mass properly on Sundays: succeeding on one weekend in…”
on ROME 22/10 – Day 3: Of a hairy bear, a column, and a case of littering.: “I cannot believe the rats are so bold. Horrible. Truly the streets of Rome are a microcosm of the Church!…”
on ASK FATHER: 1st Communion at a special Mass rather than at a regular Sunday Mass: “When I received my first Holy Communion (May 1954), the parish had a children’s Mass at 9:00 every Sunday. (In…”
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Answering the age-old question; what good can come from Troy, NY?
Thanks to Fr. Z’s blog and the good commenters who frequent it, I am grateful to call this parish my spiritual home. The Missa Cantata in the Carmelite Rite is quite beautiful. Thank you for posting, Fr. Z!
The revival of these Roman variant rites is very exciting. Wiki (whose article on this occasion is very good – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmelite_Rite) describes the Carmelite rite as “Roughly speaking, the ancient Carmelite Rite of Mass stands about half way between the Carthusian and the Dominican rites.”
Looking at a chart of comparative prayers against the Dominican rite, there does not appear to be a pre-mass preparation of the chalice; the prayers at the foot of altar are brief; confiteor and absolution are the same pattern; the offertory is shorter than Roman but longer than Dominican. Orate fratres is Roman; Canon is the same throughout. Rubrics have notable differences: covering the altar and candles used. Priest’s communion prayers slightly different.
It is good for those attached to the old Roman rite (EF) to see variants or pre-Pius V versions. Not only does this make one appreciate the beautiful simplicity of the Roman rites but also broaden one’s appreciation for liturgical development over time. That is not something one entirely sees with the NO whose changes are radical in comparison. Nevertheless there is a danger of becoming too set and thinking that the Tridentine rite had been always set in stone and had never changed. It had.
It is a fascinating to think how and why St Pius V revised the missal in the way he did: to restore, sometimes to expand, but to codify what had become loose and vulnerable (errors, omissions, abuses) in the days after the Reformation. This is almost the opposite of the effect (but not the intention) of Paul VI’s changes to the liturgy. So many paradoxes surround the last 50 years in the Church.
The hometown of Bishop Matthew Clark. I’m not sure is this is true, but I once heard that his jersey was retired for either football or basketball at the local Catholic high school.
Wow-how cool! And in one of the most liberal of dioceses!
I’m glad, Father Z, that you put [Masses!] in place of the word ‘Liturgies’. Why is the word ‘Mass’ such a verboten word? ‘Liturgy’ makes me cringe at times!
Geeze…the last knew the mass was part of the Church’s liturgy?!
My native city. So I, at least, am a *second* “good thing from Troy, NY”!
My Uncle Robert had a Solemn High Requiem Mass in the EF (with black vestments!) on his death in March at St. Josephs. Beautiful and very moving.