Francis: Coronavirus is nature’s “revenge”, “tantrum”, “cry” for help

I am not making this up.

This is not The Onion.  Neither is this Eye of the Tiber.

From Breitbart:

Pope Francis: Coronavirus Pandemic Is Nature ‘Throwing a Tantrum’

ROME — Pope Francis told a Spanish journalist Sunday that nature never forgives and the coronavirus pandemic is nature’s cry for humans to take better care of creation.

Asked by a Spanish journalist via Skype whether the COVID-19 pandemic is nature’s way of taking “revenge” on humanity, the pontiff suggested that nature is calling for attention.

“There’s a saying, which you have heard: ‘God always forgives. We sometimes forgive. Nature never forgives,’” the pope said. “Fires, earthquakes … nature is throwing a tantrum so that we will take care of her.”

The pope was also asked whether he is “optimistic” about the future of humanity in dealing with the coronavirus.

“I don’t like that word, because optimism sounds like makeup to me,” Francis replied. “I have hope in humanity, in men and women, I have hope in nations. [… God…] I’m very hopeful. People who are going to draw lessons from this crisis to rethink their lives.”

“We are going to come out of this better… fewer, of course. Many are left along the way and it’s hard. But I have faith: we will come through this better.”

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By the way… it is in itself interesting that Francis was on Skype.

Nature doesn’t forgive because nature isn’t a self-aware rational being.

But wait!   Maybe it isn’t wrong to ascribe these feelings of revenge, etc. to nature.  Right?

We read in the CCC…

400 The harmony in which they had found themselves, thanks to original justice, is now destroyed: the control of the soul’s spiritual faculties over the body is shattered; the union of man and woman becomes subject to tensions, their relations henceforth marked by lust and domination. Harmony with creation is broken: visible creation has become alien and hostile to man. Because of man, creation is now subject “to its bondage to decay”. Finally, the consequence explicitly foretold for this disobedience will come true: man will “return to the ground”, for out of it he was taken. Death makes its entrance into human history.”

Okay, that seems like an endorsement of nature as a sentient force.   But, instead, it isn’t

Nature isn’t a person.  Nature isn’t a runaway AI which has evolved.

I remind the readership that globalists and population control fanatics are all over the Vatican these days.   Under Francis, people like Paul Erlich and Jeffrey Sachs are invited.

I picked up from my friend @BreeDail that Francis uttered these thoughts in the wake of the same thing from the infamous ex-priest Leonardo Boff, of Marxist Liberation Theology fame.  HERE   Boff wrote:

We are capable of foolish and demented conduct; from now on you can fear everything, everything, including the annihilation of the human race; it would be the right price for our follies and our cruelties

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Not without reason James Lovelock, the formulator of the theory of the Earth as a self-regulating living superorganism, Gaia, wrote a book “ The revenge of Gaia ” (Intrinsic, 2006). I estimate that current diseases such as dengue, chikungunya, zica virus, sars, ebola, measles, the current coronavirus and the generalized degradation in human relationships, marked by profound inequality / social injustice and the lack of minimal solidarity are a reprisal of Gaia for the offenses that we inflict continuously on you.

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Want some Gaia?  Here’s some Gaia.

In October a wooden statuette of an earth/mother/goddess (read: demon) was venerated in the Vatican Garden and then a bowl dedicated to the worship of that demon was put, at the order of Francis, on the altar of St. Peter’s Basilica above the bones of the first Vicar of Christ.    In April, there will be no worship of God for the Triduum and Easter in Rome’s Cathedral St. John Lateran and in St. Peter’s.

 

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30 Responses to Francis: Coronavirus is nature’s “revenge”, “tantrum”, “cry” for help

  1. Antonin says:

    Anybody who doesn’t know Francis ideology by now doesn’t want to know.

    He has made no secret of it,

    His mandate though was clear. Clean up the Curia and address internal organizational issues. I applaud some of his moves in this regard including increasing synodality, laity including women in some governance capacities.

    The rest ..airplane interviews, etc etc..

    He has acted outside the mandate given him …for all his talk of synodality he is acting autocratically and narcissistically

  2. ChrisP says:

    Methinks these two statements from Boff and PF were dogwhistles.

    Around Easter, Italy will be slowly reviving. Is everyone in the Vatican going to be blue and leap from tree to tree?

  3. NBW says:

    I saw a video of Francis some days ago as he walked around Rome and to a few Churches. At first I was troubled that he wasn’t carrying the Blessed Sacrament. But then again he has difficulty walking … As he placed flowers to Mary in Santa Maria Maggiore, it appeared to me that he looked frightened; like a child that had done something wrong and was asking forgiveness. And now to hear that he said that it is nature that is taking revenge is very troubling. When will he learnthat GOD is in control, not man or “mother nature”?? Let’s pray for him, to have a true Catholic conversion.

  4. And yet, Pope Francis has also called for all Christians to pray the Our Father at noon Rome time on the Feast of the Annunciation for the end of the pandemic, and promised an Urbi et Orbi blessing on the 27th. These are two occasions on which he will be acting as a Pope.

    P.S. Antonio: NO, we do NOT need “synodality” OR women in governance capacities. The constitution of the Church is divinely ordained and we do not need to try to improve upon it.

  5. monstrance says:

    The abomination which led to the desolation.
    How much would Our Heavenly Father endure ?
    Now we know.

  6. Felipe says:

    He’s the first Catholic I’ve personally heard say something strange like this…. and I’ve been listening to a lot of sermons these days, thanks to live streams due to the end of public Masses. I pray for our Holy Father every day, everyone needs to.

  7. Simon_GNR says:

    I wonder why PF devotes so much of his energy to concern for the world and nature. Surely his priority is the salvation of souls, to “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost” (Matt. 28:19) Until this, the primary task of an apostle, is complete, His Holiness should perhaps concentrate on bringing it to completion and let Nature look after itself a bit more.

  8. Gab says:

    I am astounded and incredibly saddened that a Pope could say such things.

  9. JonPatrick says:

    Revenge of nature? All indications are that this virus came from a lab in Wuhan China that may have been engaged in research for biological warfare. This suggests it may be part of a biological warfare experiment that got out of hand, perhaps even deliberately (these are Communists we are dealing with with no concern for human life).

    Perhaps if there is vengeance here perhaps it is for the selling out by the Vatican of the Chinese Catholic Church which may explain why Italy was so hard hit.

  10. Ellen says:

    Idris Elba said something similar. Viruses are ubiquitous. Animals get them and so do plants. They would be around even if there were no humans on earth.

  11. Jonathan Marshall says:

    This sounds more like paganism than Catholicism.

  12. Mike says:

    Since 1965, with myriad bumps and chuckholes along the way, the public face of the Church has become that of a cult of human personality and human ideology in thrall to the world. Having supplanted Our Lord Jesus Christ by Mother Nature, the world is providentially being reminded in Whom lies its salvation, even when His Vicar does not care to state it.

  13. veritas vincit says:

    “In October a wooden statuette of an earth/mother/goddess (read: demon) was venerated in the Vatican Garden and then a bowl dedicated to the worship of that demon was put, at the order of Francis, on the altar of St. Peter’s Basilica above the bones of the first Vicar of Christ. In April, there will be no worship of God for the Triduum and Easter in Rome’s Cathedral St. John Lateran and in St. Peter’s.”

    Reading that, I remember God’s chastisements in the Old testament, when God’s people worshipped idols, even placed in the Temple. And I tremble with fear.

  14. mysticalrose says:

    For me, the one positive of this coronavirus crisis has been essentially the silencing of Francis. By and large the media does not currently care what he has to say, and at this point, neither do I.

  15. Semper Gumby says:

    That seems to be the Anthropomorphic Fallacy. That’s well-trodden ground. The Vatican is in need of a good history book and a copy of Fides et Ratio.

    Meanwhile in Congress, the Party of Death wants Wuhan Virus legislation to include identity politics, election fraud, climate activism, and possibly transgender surgery for illegal aliens. Maybe funding for more renditions of John Lennon’s “Imagine.” This, too, is well-trodden ground. The “C”atholic Nancy Pelosi is in need of a good history book and a copy of Fides et Ratio.

    While we’re at it, copies of “The Heresy of Formlessness” all around.

  16. Semper Gumby says:

    Jumpin’ Jehosaphat, the Bishop of Tyler strapped on his sandals, clothed himself in sackcloth, and raised his mighty staff:

    “PEOPLE OF THE WORLD FALL TO YOUR KNEES. Fall to your knees, beg forgiveness of your sins…SIN is real, beg God’s Mercy. Stop worshiping yourself, stop worshiping creation,stop worshiping your desires, fall to your knees & worship God, Father, Son & Holy Spirit. REPENT!”

    Ok, now we’re getting somewhere. God bless Bishop Strickland.

    Yea, thou art my lamp, O Lord,
    and my God lightens my darkness.
    Yea, by thee I can crush a troop,
    and by my God I can leap over a wall. -2 Samuel 22:29-30

  17. Ave Maria says:

    I read that the bishop of a very hard hit city, Bergamo, was the person who composed a prayer to the wooden idol “P” (don’t want to even print the name) at the Vatican. The worship of idols is one of the many things God detests. And, of course, there is abortion, sodomy, murder, heresy, and apostasy as well all in place to offend God. I suppose God can use ‘nature’ as a means of chastisement….

  18. dcp740i says:

    Pius XI, who observed the murderous and diabolical nature of socialism and communism firsthand at its first flowering, famously wrote that “no one can be at the same time a good Catholic and a true socialist.” Francis is from South America, where socialist ideology and culture is part of the very air. It has seeped into his bones, along with Marxist doctrines shared by various green movements. Marxism remains the most effective tool used by Satan to create and sustain human misery in an otherwise beneficial time period of history. Thus, the Angry Mother Nature, not a sentient being and not possessed of a soul, but justified in her rage at capitalists nonetheless.

  19. robtbrown says:

    We have been witness to a pope still lost in the 1970s, who is so out of touch that he thinks coughing up 40 year old ideology will convince people that he has a finger on present times. But critical mass was reached with the sell out to China, the Pachamama veneration, and finally the Sarah/Ratzinger book. He is now flailing, trying in the Covid19 environment to reassure people who some time ago stopped taking him seriously as a man of God.

  20. JPaulZ says:

    May offer a suggestion to Pope Francis since he is absorbed with a revenge motive for this virus. The virus doesn’t impact children to the degree it impacts elderly adults, and through March 19, I’m only able to find one recorded infant death, a 10-month-old. What is the age of those impacted, and what is the age of the generation who “normalized” (for lack of a better term) abortion, while they were running most of the governments and establishing medical policies in the world? Hmmmm, Just a thought.

  21. Antonin says:

    Anita

    I am sure you have more than a passing familiarity with Catherine of Siena who had a pretty significant impact on Gregory XI not to mention the geographic location of the papacy.

    While not “officially” part of the governance she had quite a bit of sway and did not hesitate in making her views known.

    She didn’t just iron vestments (not that there is any thing wrong with that as long as it is voluntary and part of vocational commitment

    My point is that we need to hesitate on drawing too sharp a boundary on women’s scope of activity in the Church.

    We have too extensive a tradition

  22. Dr. Timothy J. Williams says:

    Pachamama rewards those who are faithful to her. But not necessarily the way they expect…

  23. Ivan says:

    PS. Anita: How is acting as pope calling Catholics to pray together with thousands of protestant sects?

  24. PetersBarque says:

    Oh, my achin’ head!

  25. I had a somewhat similar thought in bed this morning but from the perspective of faith. Putting together the empty streets, which are reminiscent of how they perhaps ought to look on the Sabbath, and the many, many Scripture passages that are quite clear about the importance of keeping the Sabbath, perhaps Leviticus 26:34 and 2 Chronicles 36:21 are coming into play here, but it isn’t “nature’s cry,” but rather God’s cry, or more precisely, God permitting what is happening these days so that we can begin to make up our lost Sabbaths. After all, this is certainly a Sabbath-desecrating world. If so, we may expect to see many different sorts of chastisements that result in a similar outcome to what we have now, continuing until we have made up all the lost Sabbaths. On the other hand, if we continue to ascribe these things to “nature” being offended instead of God being offended, we will continue to miss the point and the chastisements may last for quite a while.

  26. Kathleen10 says:

    It is at this point extremely hard to talk about Francis. Words are failing.
    The culmination in the Vatican garden, with the demon idol worship, and again when he insisted the bowl representing that demon idol be brought to the altar. What would God do, assuming that may be the abomination of desolation. We sin against God in incredible scope. Across the world, we have forgotten God, despite there being many who love Him. To have the church become the empty house it has become, with evil and weak men tolerating such diabolical levels of sodomy in God’s House, the many crimes against boys and young men they have committed, the elevation of even those evil men to high positions in the church where they can commit outrages on an international scale and work from inside to destroy the church, it boggles the mind.

    Notre Dame BURNED, a bad portent from a God Who speaks in signs. The pope broke the First Commandment on Vatican ground in front of the world. This is still astounding. Anyone remotely Catholic should understand, this is a deal-breaker. He has broken faith with God, blatantly, openly, blasphemously, and directly. What would we expect to be the outcome.
    Within months of that act, a novel virus makes it’s way around the world. And the pope’s response is the same one we could expect from a shaman, no different, not only not a trace of Catholicism or minimally Christian, but outright paganism. And where is the outcry from the Cardinals and bishops, the men who wear red as a sign of their willingness to be martyrs for God.

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  28. KateD says:

    Wow! Just WOW!

    No Mass and now this?!?

    So is there a special blessing that makes bees wax holy candles? How exactly does that work?

  29. tho says:

    Do you think Moses would find a resemblance between the Golden Calf and Pachamama?
    To say that the earth throws a fit is fraught with implications that the earth is aware of mans actions, doesn’t that contradict Genesis?

  30. samwise says:

    @ Antonin: well said, stick to the madate, accomplish goals and not get distracted
    @Anita: Mulieris Dignitatem #24

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