Finding the TLM in S. Peter’s now that Masses have been suppressed.

This is the first day for the heartless, lawless San Pietro Suppression (SPS) of Holy Mass by individual priests at the many altars of the Basilica. The Traditional Latin Mass is restricted to a single altar in the Clementine Chapel in the “grotto” or crypt of the Basilica, a place most people don’t know about. The altar is up against the wall surrounding the ancient tomb of St. Peter, beneath the main altar. While it is a prestigious place, it is nevertheless a restriction. A golden cage is still a cage.

My friend Bree Dail made this video. Finding the TLM in the time of SPS.

If ever there were a time when we needed more Masses celebrated in such a place….

And this from Ed Pentin:

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  1. RosaryRose says:

    “ If ever there were a time when we needed more Masses celebrated in such a place….”
    Amen, Father!

    I am surprised this is being followed since the document was not signed. Was the decree just some peon hoping it would be followed? Are good priests following a coward?

    I say go ahead and say Masses in side altars. Make the person(s) SUPPRESSING the holy Sacrifice show themselves.

    Then sprinkle holy water on them.

  2. Ariseyedead says:

    Overheard in the halls of Casa Santa Marta:
    “Will no one rid me of this meddlesome Mass?”

  3. Hopeful says:

    Beautiful video by Bree Dail, and very helpful for the visual rememberers among us.

  4. Dan says:

    So can anyone show up at that time and will they admit them to the clementine chapel?
    Maybe if it is over filled every morning they will be forced to expand.
    Or they may just shut it down completely saying it is interfering with the ability of the faithful to celebrate the NO.

  5. JustaSinner says:

    Other than through ‘ownership’ claims of property, does whoever issued this edict/ruling/ban have the Spiritual power to ban saying of the Mass there, or anywhere?

  6. Sandy says:

    Heartbreaking to see the empty altars. When will it all end?

  7. Mariana2 says:

    I read somewhere – unfortunately I don’t remember how serieux the site was – that since the Demon Bowl on the altar over St. Peter’s grave, no Masses have been celebrated at that altar. So, maybe, if one is really melodramatic, one might think that the Sacrifice is coming to an end at St. Peter’s?

  8. rwj says:

    Another sad day. I never offered a TLM, but was so honored to offer holy mass many mornings in St. Peter’s and felt welcome to offer mass in English or Latin, or whatever language.

    This was a bad decision that did nothing good. Italian is not the language of the Universal Church, and mini Mussolinis who enacted and enabled this nonsense could put their dated ideology behind them before St. Peter’s becomes a museum like far too many Roman Churches.

    How many years before its another Hagia Sofia? Parce Domine.

  9. clare joseph says:

    Don’t miss the outstanding article by George Weigel on this whole topic (Catholic World Report, March 19). He nails it.

    Thanks to Edward Pentin for posting a reference to this in his Twitter account.

  10. clare joseph says:

    And now this full article posted by Edward Pentin today at the NCRegister:

    Maybe – we can only pray – this article will help elicit an explanation from those who are hiding offering one.

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  12. JPaulZ says:

    We must all remember that Christ’s Church will be persecuted until the end of time, but will never fail. I find persecution from inside an organization, from family and friends, to be the most difficult. The Saints welcomed persecution and offered it to the glory of God. God bless you!

  13. Semper Gumby says:

    Thanks to Bree Dail for the video.

    This Vatican continues to indulge in anti-Christian tyranny and bureaucratic cowardice.

    As for Perra who initialed this Diktat:

    “…a journalist from Maracaibo, Gasto?n Guisandes Lo?pez, made “serious accusations” implicating Peña Parra and other priests of the diocese in the sex abuse of minors and other “possibly criminal” acts, in 2000.”

    “…Parra and another priest were vacationing on an island together in Lake Maracaibo when they were involved in the death of two people, both presumably males, who were killed by electrical shock.”

  14. Semper Gumby says:

    happyCatholic: Interesting take by Ann Barnhardt. There’s something to be said for avoiding St. Peter’s.

    clare joseph: Good article by Weigel, though Vatican II, while not entirely at fault here given human nature, is partly responsible.

  15. Gab says:

    Fr Dana Christensen has some interesting thoughts on this suppression.

  16. Gab says:

    Looking at the pictures, I can’t help but think this situation is utter madness and diabolic in nature.

  17. kurtmasur says:

    This is truly a sad and depressing day indeed.

    The only thing I take heart in from seeing the video is to know that access to the TLM at the Clementine Chapel to go to the TLM is open to whoever shows up. Last time I was at St. Peter’s a few years back you couldn’t even attend and hear any of the individual private masses unless your name was already in some list of reservations, which I thought was quite disappointing.

    Anyways, I wonder if some wort of petition could perhaps make an impact enough to reverse this oppressive new rule at St. Peter’s suppressing private, individual Masses?

  18. maternalView says:

    One of the things on my visit to Rome several years ago that gave life and meaning to the beautiful churches and basilicas to me was seeing the Masses going on at the side chapels. It reminds the tourists wandering through that this place is real. It means something. It’s not just a museum of sorts of a long ago people. The continuity from early times to now represents millions of believers through the centuries.

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