More hijinx in Saint Peter’s Basilica

Once upon a time, anyone who dared to use the papal altar in one of the major Roman basilicas without a rescript incurred an excommunication, including cardinals.   Old photos show the rescript posted on a column of the baldachin during Mass.

What do we read today?  Il Messaggero… in Italian, of course…  on 2 October 2021 a simple priest will celebrate Mass at the papal altar in St. Peter’s Basilica.  This has never happened before.  The priest in question is Fr. Fabio Rosini, a Scripture scholar, it seems.  Of course it will be a concelebration.

Pachamama leads the way!

I only ask:

Where is that bowl now?



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  1. Not says:

    Where is the bowl?, Where is Hunter? Who is really the Pope? Where is the real Sister Lucia? Inquiring minds want to know.

  2. Geoffrey says:

    Wouldn’t the shear holiness of St Peter’s Basilica (holy ground, etc.) render the “power” of any hidden demonic-pagan bowl useless?

  3. Schismatic Tendencies says:

    Aside from being a scripture scholar who has written a widely popular (in Italy) catechesis on the Ten Commandments, Fr. Rosini is the vocations director for the Vicariate of Rome. He is also hugely popular on Vatican Radio’s Italian broadcasts and a regular speaker at youth days and large Catholic youth gatherings in Italy. I suspect this is a Mass for a large youth event.

  4. Kathleen10 says:

    He’s just doing his job, level it all. Mission accomplished, except the true faith. He can’t touch that, and this is why his insides churn so much. If only he could! But he can’t. None of them can, which is why their vindictive efforts elicit no response and we hardly pay attention to them anymore. It barely registers. They’ve gone so far it’s become almost meaningless. They surprise us when they say something Catholic! These antics mean nothing. One of these days the Good Lord will answer them. Maybe we’ll be around to see it, maybe not, but He will in His good time. He can handle it.
    In the meantime they basically dead to us. There is literally nothing they can do to us to hurt us, any longer. They can hurt clergy, but not many of us. When you have no expectations, you can’t be disappointed. We should all be long past it.

    If Fr. Rosini is such a scripture scholar, he should know better than most anyone that what he will do is wrong. He should not be doing it. No priest, bishop, or cardinal, should do that.
    The bowl is either on Francis’s nightstand, or installed in the altar as an unholy relic.
    Come, Lord Jesus.

  5. The Astronomer says:

    Geoffrey said: Wouldn’t the sheer holiness of St Peter’s Basilica (holy ground, etc.) render the “power” of any hidden demonic-pagan bowl useless?

    Consider these facts accomplished with conniving human collaborators in the Catholic hierarchy:

    – the demonic (1963 Luciferic Enthronement ceremony in the Vatican Pauline Chapel, Pachemama ceremony…etc.) and the resultant collapse of authentic Roman Catholic belief and morality as evidenced in sodomite orgies in Vatican buildings, the St. Gallen Mafia,
    – “Uncle Ted” McCarrick and his global poison,
    – Vatican-sanctioned abandonment of the Chinese Catholic Church to the tender mercies of Chinese Communist Party commissars & getting shipped off to Xinjiang Province concentration camps (further fulfillment of Our Lady of Fatima’s warnings about the errors of Russia and persecution of the Church),
    – Sacrilegious reception of the most Blessed Sacrament using Amoris Latitiae as a cover
    – The Pope CHANGING THE WORDS OF OUR BLESSED LORD in the “Our Father”
    – A ‘papally-sanctionedGestapo / KGB-style purge of the Traditional Latin Mass and orders like the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate
    – other things I’m likely overlooking

    I think a case can be made that prior to 1958 there WAS a preponderance of holiness in St. Peter’s Basilica, but given Paul VI’s admission regarding the “smoke of Satan infiltrating the Church,” the Pachemama daemon and her Bowl symbol carry an outsize proportionately evil effect.

  6. Elizabeth D says:

    Legend has it that any ordinary priest who celebrates Mass at the high altar of St Peters becomes a cardinal, latae sententiae, even if he snuck in under cover of darkness. But only the main celebrant. And don’t bet on actually getting to come to a consistory, conclave, etc. And he doesn’t become a bishop. Just a moot cardinal.

  7. excalibur says:

    A new sacrament has been established in Canada.

  8. Gil Garza says:

    Placing a demonic sacrificial offering bowl on the Pontifical High Altar during Holy Mass ought to be a call to urgent action. These objects are typically filled with animal innards, soil, a plant and something red. Often the soil is then sprinkled with human blood during demonic worship, for which the bowl plays a central cultic role.

    The consequences of the events related to this item are most grave.

  9. Josh Beigs says:

    Re: Geoffrey, not at all the case. Consider the abomination of desolation prophesied in Daniel, the sacrifice in the Jewish temple being replaced by pagan sacrifices, the eschatological words of Our Lord referencing this abomination. Consider that the Eucharist itself, the very body and blood of Christ, can be desecrated.

  10. hilltop says:

    Reminds me the man who, when asked why he sold his soul to the devil, replied “well I wasn’t using it.” So while Francis is not using the Papal Altar, why not go ahead and have Father Fabio shack up in the papal apartments for a while?
    Father Z, The bowl trades locations between the graves of the two greats: Popes Saint John XXIII and Paul VI. That’s why no one has seen it recently.

  11. Johann says:

    We need another St Boniface moment a la Alexander Tschuggel. Someone should just sneak into that Church, steal the bowl, take it outside, and destroy it.

  12. monstrance says:

    We can hope the demonic bowl is nestled at the bottom of the Tiber serving up fish a bitter salad.
    Poor fish

  13. Venerator Sti Lot says:

    Gil Garza,

    How much do ‘we’ know about the typical future of such objects after an initial cultic use? Would that give a clue to the likely disposition of its components, assuming ‘respect for Pacahmama cult tradition’?

  14. OssaSola says:

    I’m guessing that The Evil Bowl is out of sight somewhere. Or surrounded by guards? How else to explain the apparent fact that no Tschuggel has dethroned it?

    Surely someone has gone there and looked for it by now, right? Right ?!?

  15. Venerator Sti Lot says:

    Is the bowl glass? If so, might it have been melted down and made into something Useful, like, say, phials for injectables or old-fashioned hypodermic syringes?

  16. MaterDeicolumbae says:

    Mr. Garza is correct.
    His post brings to mind my Mesoamerican ancestry.
    Half of my ancestors were probably Aztecs- thanks be to God that the Spaniards came over, brought Catholicism to Mexico, and intermarried with the natives.
    The Aztecs were a brutal, diabolical society, greatly feared by neighboring tribes.
    A side note re the above:
    The website reports that a group of parents filed a lawsuit, 9-3-21, against the California State Board of Education for passing a curriculum for students to pray to 5 Aztec gods.
    The article also includes: “Additionally, the curriculum includes the Ashe Prayer from the Yoruba religion. Yoruba is an ancient philosophical concept that is the root of many pagan religions, including santeria and Haitian vodou or voodoo.”

    Our Lady of Guadalupe pray for us
    St. Joseph, Terror of demons, pray for us
    Viva Cristo Rey!

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