GOOD NEWS in the Diocese of Phoenix regarding TC and the DD

TC and the DD… Traditionis Custodes (aka “Jailers of Tradition” aka “Taurina cacata”) and the Dubious Dubia.

In effect, this doesn’t exactly “round file” TC and the DD.  It is more like to…

… leaving it out on the steps in the rain.

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  2. Ms. M-S says:

    Where there’s a will, there’s a way.

  3. Not says:

    We are truly living in a time when we see what our Bishops are made of.

  4. Liz says:

    Aw, that’s great! Both His Excellency and Fr. Passo have been on my list of priests to pray for for a long time now. God bless them both!

  5. Kathleen10 says:

    Good on Bp. Olmstead, and there are apparently others, such as ours, doing the same. God bless them for not doing evil! We will certainly see every single bishop and what side they are on, because you can’t be on both God and Satan’s side.
    There is a good basketball analogy, running out the clock, where one team is holding onto the ball, dribbling around the outside, passing the ball around, to keep it out of the other team’s hands, lest they score points at the last few seconds.
    This allows that inevitable clock to run down to zero, when the game, is over.

  6. Lurker 59 says:

    If, in the Synodotal Way of the Mercy^tm, the bishops are to be treated as middle management, then the most effective tool in the face of bad cooperate policy is not to quote the HR manual at the boss, but to ensnarl the the bad policy in the red tape factory that is the bloated apparatus of middle management.

    Summorum Pontificum got around the diocesean red-tape factory by instructing the bishops to do their jobs while removing the issue of TLM as something to be managed by the red tape factory and instead a divine command to the simple priest to do by the sheer fact of being a priest and right of the laity to have by the fact of their baptisms. TC, as it desires to make the TLM a thing managed (and expunged), has to resort to the bureaucratic nightmare (even in the best cases) that making policy based on the will of the executor generates.

    TC has a lot of policy that needs to be studied and there is a lot of questions raised, confusion, misunderstandings, sorry the line is breaking ups, the office is closed, the bishop will be in in the morning, and we’ll have to get back to you on that’s. Of course done with compete deference to the will of the executor.

    Waiting on the back porch in the rain indeed.

  7. James C says:

    Some more good news. Here’s the Christmas and St Stephen mass schedule at Santo Stefano parish in Genoa, Italy (whose archbishop, Marco Tasca, was appointed by Francis last year):

    Christmas and St Stephen Day Mass schedules.

    ?Saturday 25 December 2021

    ?9.45 a.m. Mass in the extraordinary form of the Latin Roman Rite in GREGORIAN CHANT

    ?11.15 a.m. Holy Mass in Italian sung

    ?Sunday 26 December 2021 –
    Feast of St. Stephen

    ?9.30 a.m. Mass in the extraordinary form of the Latin Roman Rite in GREGORIAN CHANT with the assistance of Archbishop H.
    E. Mons. Marco Tasca

    ?11 a.m. Divine Liturgy in the Byzantine Rite presided by the Archbishop.

    ?16.30 Holy Mass in Italian

    ?17.30 Holy Vespers in the extraordinary form of the Latin Roman Rite in GREGORIAN CHANT

  8. James C says:

    And in the diocese of Syracuse, New York (Bishop Douglas Lucia):

    St. Mary’s Parish and Shrine
    Oswego, New York

    Nativity of Our Lord Jesus Christ

    DECEMBER 24:
    4:00 PM Christmas Eve English Mass Celebrated by Fr. Schultz

    DECEMBER 25:
    12:00 AM Latin Midnight Latin Mass Celebrated by Fr. Schultz

    10:00 AM Latin Christmas Day Mass – Latin- Celebrated by Bishop Douglas Lucia

    Hurrah! Come out and support these bishops if you can!

  9. ncstevem1 says:

    Fr. – our pastor, who doesn’t seem particularly traditional (the associate pastor celebrates all of the TLMs) announced at mass on Sunday that the bishop (who also isn’t particularly traditional) informed him that there won’t be any changes to our weekly TLM or any of the sacraments in the traditional form.

    Besides this good news, I would add that the pastor makes himself available for confession during the celebration of the TLM. Typically there is a line of 20 – 25 people during most of the mass.

  10. monstrance says:

    I’m wondering if some of these bishops fear the wrath of their sheep more than the wrath of Francis, even if they do not lean toward tradition.

  11. Cicero_NOLA says:

    This news in Phoenix comes only 11 days after Bishop Eduardo Nevares (auxiliary) consecrated St Edward the Confessor church in the traditional form. He also confirmed nearly 70 at Mater Misericordiae in June. Deo Gratias!

    The diocesan newspaper even did a nice writeup:

    Mater Misericordiae parish will operate out of both churches and we will have simultaneous sung midnight Masses for Christmas. I feel like our parish guardian angels have been looking out for us since the purchase of St Edward’s closed on 1 July and the dedication was a week before the DD.

  12. Semper Gumby says:

    Excellent news from Diocese of Phoenix and elsewhere from the commenters. Bp. Olmsted wrote several years ago “Into the Breach”:

    “I begin this letter with a clarion call and clear charge to you, my sons and brothers in Christ: Men, do not hesitate to engage in the battle that is raging around you, the battle that is wounding our children and families, the battle that is distorting the dignity of both women and men. This battle is often hidden, but the battle is real.”

    1 Corinthians 16:
    “Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.”

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  14. MrsBridge says:

    Some very good news here but I wonder about Syracuse (in the prior comment) listing the celebrant’s name along with the form of the Mass to be said. The last thing anyone wants is to have people preferring “Father Jones’s Mass” to “Father Smith’s.” The priest is a celebrant, not a celebrity. The Catholic Church has largely avoided the personality cult of Protestant ministers. Let’s not go there now.

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