King Charles on the Ideology of Modernism

My good friend Fr. Tim Finigan alerted me to this.

Perhaps Charles could explain the situation to Francis.

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  1. It is not reassuring that, as Prince of Wales, Charles palled around with the globalists. On the other hand, in his first address to the nation as King, he clearly signaled that he does not intend to usher in any crazy changes, such as I would have feared had he come to the kingship at a younger age. Perhaps he will be open to the graces of office.

  2. FatherAnd says:

    He sounds to me like a High Anglican who has lost all faith in Jesus Christ. He also praises the Kabbala in this speech.

  3. Mitchell says:

    Thank God, as an American, I haven’t had to care about an English King since 1776.

  4. amenamen says:

    He should be called King Charles IV.

    Charles Edward Stuart, “Bonnie Prince Charlie,” was the rightful heir to the thrones of England and Scotland, following the Stuart Kings, James II and James III.

    Just imagine if there had been no German “Hanover” kings, George I, George II and George III. Surely the American colonies would have been handled very differently by a benevolent and Catholic King Charles III, who lived until 1788.

    The Royal Stuarts, James III and his sons, Charles Edward, and Henry Benedict Cardinal Stuart, are buried in St Peter’s Basilica.

  5. amenamen says:

    Bonnie Prince Charlie

    Bonnie Charlie’s no awa’,
    Safely owre the friendly main;
    Mony a heart will break in twa,
    Should he no’ come back again.

    Will ye no come back again?
    Will ye no come back again?
    Better lo’ed ye canna be,
    Will ye no come back again?

    Ye trusted in your Hieland men,
    They trusted you, dear Charlie;
    They kent you hiding in the glen.
    Your cleadin’ was but barely.

    We watched you in the gloamin’ hour,
    We watched thee in the mornin’ grey;
    Tho’ thirty thousand pounds they’d gie,
    Oh, there was nane that wad betray.

    Mony a traitor ‘mange the isles
    Brak the band o’ nature’s laws;
    Mony a traitor wi’ his wiles,
    Sought to wear his life awa’.

    Many a gallant sodger fought,
    Mony a gallant chief did fa,
    Death itself were dearly bought,
    A’ for Scotland’s king and law.

    When e’er I hear the blackbird sing,
    Unto the evening sinking down,
    Or merl that makes the wood to ring,
    To me they hae nae other sound.

    Sweet the lav’rock’s note and lang,
    Lilting wildly up the glen;
    And aye the o’erworld o’ he sang,
    “Will he no’ come back again?”

  6. robtbrown says:

    Mitchell says:

    Thank God, as an American, I haven’t had to care about an English King since 1776.

    Yes, and it has left us free to concentrate on celebrity worship.

  7. “Where men are forbidden to honor a king, they honor millionaires, athletes, or film stars instead: even famous prostitutes or gangsters. For spiritual nature, like bodily nature, will be served; deny it food, and it will gobble poison.”

    – C.S. Lewis, Present Concerns

  8. jme493 says:

    In this talk, Charles mentioned René Guénon, of whom I was not familiar. After looking him up, it seems that the Traditionalism Guénon wrote about was very different from Catholic Traditionalism. His version of Traditionalism seems to focus on truths that are common to all religions. Apparently Guénon was baptized a Catholic, but became a Mason and then converted to Islam.

  9. OldProfK says:

    I had much the same reaction as Anita Moore above did to Charles’ address the other day — and I was moved to sympathy by how distraught he looked.

  10. Chiara says:

    I may be mistaken, but this clip appears to be from 20-30 years ago.

    In my case, at least, I have evolved in my opinions and outlook. I would hope that King Charles has done the same, as any reasonable adult would.

    From his thoughtful speech announcing the death of his mother and thanking everyone for their condolences, I think he is handling things remarkably well so far.

  11. TheCavalierHatherly says:

    I thank God, as a Canadian, my head of state isn’t a bumbling drone. The typewriter monkeys would sooner have begot Shakespeare’s “King Lear” than any of the last five American presidents would have been able to articulate a thought as clearly as my Sovereign.

    Charles III has already, in his speeches, obviously gone back on a couple of things he said in his younger days; and done so in a public manner, just obviously enough to indicate his willingness to accept the correction that comes with the wisdom of age. This is a special evidence of sincerity. I have high hopes that, like his illustrious namesake Charles I, his recognition of the sacred and the sacredness of his kingly duty drive him towards the true religion.

    I am, of course, a filthy globalist elitist myself. I believe that we belong under the aegis and association of the Holy Roman Empire, and that we ought to be ruled by the old noble families of Europe. So make of my animadversions what you will.

  12. BrionyB says:

    The Bonnie Prince was never King. Arguably he should have been, but that argument was had and lost a considerable time ago, for better or worse. I’m sometimes not sure Americans quite understand the nature of our constitution or the way the Crown passes, and (in recent centuries) the relationship between monarch and Parliament; this isn’t a heroic fantasy trilogy, and it isn’t always purely a matter of who is the “rightful heir” by birth.

    As for whether history would have fallen out better if James II had not been deposed, or any of the other events in the sequence that led to the Hanover era had not happened – well, that is not given to us to know. A Catholic monarchy did not save France from a bloody revolution and the rule of a tyrant, for example.

    Sometimes, it is perhaps best to accept that history happened the way it did, and God permitted it to be so. A good thing to pray for might be that our new King follows the example of Charles II with a (very!) late conversion to the true faith.

  13. hilltop says:

    All commenters above, save Father:
    Please remove your indignations from your posterior regions and recognize that, however imperfect a Catholic theologian King Charles is, he is an able critic of Modernism.
    Take what is good, for heaven’s sake.
    Bonnie P C lost, was never crowned king. The new guy is III, not IV.
    Closer to home, Alexander Hamilton was never president even though he should have been. He too engaged in a duel that he should have won but didn’t. It doesn’t make him the 3rd president any more than BPC the third Charles.

  14. amenamen says:

    All too true, Bonnie Prince Charlie was never crowned as Charles III.
    But wiser heads than mine have raised questions, speculating about how historical events could-a, should-a, would-a, turned out differently, and nearly did.

    Chesterton wrote an essay, “What If Don John of Austria Had Married Mary Queen of Scots?” It sets the mind to thinking.

    Alas, it did not happen that way, and we are stuck with history as it has been written.

    I am not sure how a President Hamilton would have looked on the two dollar bill instead of Jefferson, if only he had been a better marksman. But I will gladly pray that (your) new King Charles III may follow in the footsteps of Charles II, only sooner.

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