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- Here we go again! Comments on forcing table altars and forbidding Mass “ad orientem”.
- Why reverent, traditionally-oriented Novus Ordo Masses may soon come under attack.
- Pentecost Saturday: We Are Our Rites – Wherein Fr. Z rants
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- Pentecost Friday: tearing it up
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- PODCAzT 60: Pentecost customs; St. Ambrose on the dew of the Holy Spirit
- SSPX: Habemus Papam! Pray or Speculate?
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Grant unto thy Church, we beseech Thee, O merciful God, that She, being gathered together by the Holy Ghost, may be in no wise troubled by attack from her foes. O God, who by sin art offended and by penance pacified, mercifully regard the prayers of Thy people making supplication unto Thee,and turn away the scourges of Thine anger which we deserve for our sins. Almighty and Everlasting God, in whose Hand are the power and the government of every realm: look down upon and help the Christian people that the heathen nations who trust in the fierceness of their own might may be crushed by the power of thine Arm. Through our Lord Jesus Christ, Thy Son, who liveth and reigneth with Thee in the unity of the Holy Ghost, God, world without end. R. Amen.
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$180,000 US. How much would it cost to disassemble and relocate? The granite alone is worth $180K
I’ve been to this church when it was still consecrated. This is very sad but no surprise. 10 years ago, there were about 5 parishioners, and they had Mass in the rectory. The doors were being kept open solely for tourists (note: not pilgrims.)
The bishop in Nova Scotia seems bent on destroying what little remains of the church there. My kids asked if we could buy it for a TLM group, but anything traditional is completely prohibited there. But tradition aside, I’ve recently been talking to some charismatics from there and the bishop is likewise making their lives hell on earth. He doesn’t seem to like anything that could imply growth for the Church.
If anyone is excited about being able to buy a beautiful old Acadian church, don’t worry too much about missing this one; I’m sure they’ll being closing dozens more. (This one does stand out as exceptionally beautiful, though.)
It also comes with a fully functional pipe organ. (There’s a community of church organists quite interested in the organ). There is about a $1 million CAD needed in roof repairs.
The organ would likely have to be removed and sold in Canada since there’s likely lead In the pipes, which makes exportation difficult if not impossible.
@TheBackPew: how much? Thinking lots of millions USD. Demolition of a building this size (how I know has much to do with being involved heavily in the preservation effort of an equivalent church structure here in the states) is in the 15-20 mil USD range. Pretty sure there’s asbestos, lead, and other banned substances that would have to be remediated along the way, too.
Rebuilding the organ (depending on the builder (Casavant/Allen/Pergall0/Aeolian-Skinner)) is a million dollar investment; the high altar alone would be a spectacular addition to an existing structure.
Heating? This past winter, here in the states, cost around 15K (it’s been mild, thankfully) for the oil. Just running the building is a 50K a year (assuming no major repairs…like the roof) nut to crack.
Hate to think of what could become of this; lots have been desecrated into bars or clubs or worse, though, where it’s located probably mitigates against that fate and I’m pretty sure it was reduced to non-consecrated (I don’t remember the term) status. Just as a data point from personal experience; wish I had the $, though I have no idea what I’d do with it.
If I had the money I’d buy all of these churches and turn them into oratories.
In an unrelated but similar vein if I had billions to spend I’d build a 1:1 scale replica of the original St. Peter’s basilica at its height of beauty as faithfully as possible.
This is in my diocese. Very sad!
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I lived in Nova Scotia as a child. This is where the Latin Mass was said in the late 80’s and early 90’s. I believe the Priest was Fr. Robertson, first name maybe Phil. Very sad. As I have said on here a few times. The Novus Ordo said in its banal state has destroyed the faith in Canada. It’s the same story from coast to coast and becoming more secular every year. The new springtime!
Many would see this as something good and necessary: get rid of this old medieval stuff. They are places for worship; places that emphasize the distinction between priests and people; places that remind us about the eternal things and the last things; places that tell us that there is a connection between beauty and good; with a thing in the corner to confess our sins, because there are sins; because they look solid and permanent. We want fluid things. We want churches that deconstruct whatever is left in the world to deconstruct.
BeatifyStickler:
Not coast to coast. We have plenty of reverent NO Masses in Vancouver (including at the cathedral where Latin and incense and polyphony are common – plus the altar rail is still used at all Masses)… and decent access to TLM as well (including every Sunday at the cathedral).
TWF. Going to have to disagree. The diocese of Vancouver is on the verge of financial collapse. Some reverent Masses sure. The diocese as a whole like the rest of the country has limited vocations and growth. My uncle is in the Diocese of Vancouver and a Priest there. He is the ex vicar general of the diocese.
Once our Canadian government drops our tax exemptions over something like being against transgenderism etc, the Church will collapse overnight.
Vancouver is one part of the coast. The archdiocese of Vancouver relies on missionary priests from Africa because they cannot supply their own. The rest of British Columbia is a disaster and Vancouver is the homeless capital of Canada.