How the LCWR, Magisterium of Nuns, get around the Church’s teaching and hierarchy

I missed this the other day. On review, it is important enough to post about.

Over at Fishwrap, the National Schismatic Reporter, there is an interview with the head of the LCWR, Sr. Florence Deacon, from 7 May, while she was at the international meeting in Rome of leaders of women religious. Sr. Deacon’s interview was after João Card. Braz de Aviz from the Congregation for Religious spoke to the meeting of the UISG, but before Pope Francis came and explained that “sentire cum Ecclesia” cannot be thought of apart from the Church and her hierarchy.

The first part of Sister’s odd interview is less important. Along the way, however, something emerges that needs attention. Let’s dive in in medias res.

Q: This meeting has really focused on servant leadership. In many of the speeches, there has been mention of questions of obedience, power, and authority. Bruna Costacurta spoke of how Esther used her power; this morning we heard about the “authority of the suffering.” Is that raising any new thoughts for you about obedience, or about authority, or about structures of church power?
DEACON: They’re explaining them in a different focus, but I don’t know that they’re raising any new questions in my mind. But the imagery is beautiful. It’s a way that I have perceived power an authority my whole life.
Vatican II was 50 years ago. These are Vatican II concepts. To me, they’re not particularly new.
Q: This morning, Sr. Martha Zechmeister mentioned that the final authority for religious rests with God.
DEACON: And listening to God — since Vatican II, we’ve looked at authority as listening and obedience as listening to God. They’re putting it in the context of listening to God through the voice of the poor.
I have to go back and reread Esther, because that was an eye-opener for me, in the sense of how she [Bruna Costacurta, a professor of biblical theology at Rome’s Pontifical Gregorian University] used Esther as a symbol of scriptural authority.
The imagery has been new to me, and I do want to go back and look at that. But the Vatican Council talked about the Spirit among all of us. If the Spirit speaks among all of us or is in all of us, then authority is listening to others too.
You listen to the voice of God as expressed in the community, as well as the will of God expressed through life situations, as well as the will of God expressed through scripture.
So you listen to the will of God in a whole lot of ways. And listening to God through established authority. You look at it all those ways.
Q: There’s different aspects?
DEACON: Yes, right. And then if you’re hearing some different things from them there has to be some real discernment as to what does the Spirit seem to be calling you to — what does God seem to be calling me to at this point, at this time? And then you make the best decision you can and you just leave it in God’s hands.

This is complete subterfuge.

You’re initial reaction is that this is gobbledygook. You would be right. But, once you get past the word salad, you find something very bad at the heart of her responses.

What does this mean? It is NOT sentire cum Ecclesia, that’s for sure.

Why is Florence Deacon saying this? She is manifesting yet another dimension of the Magisterium of Nuns.

She is using the “poor”, and the poor can be translated loosely, as a hermeneutic for just about everything they want to justify doing. La Voz de los Pobres, The Voice of the Poor (it’s just better in Spanish), is a cover for setting aside Magisterial teaching.

This is how this works.

First, I take the “experience” of the person I am talking to. That person, who has some sort of conflict or problem, is in the category of “the poor”, or “the marginalized”, no matter what their income is. When that “poor” person speaks, I am listening to the voice of God, because the voice of God is heard in La Voz de los Pobres. So, the “poor” person’s experience, and then my “experience” of listening, become the grounding of interpretation of God’s will. See?

Then, after this listening, I interpret what the person wants to do. For example, the “poor” person wants to have sex with someone of the same sex, or wants to simulate ordination to the priesthood, or wants to vote for pro-abortion politicians who support certain social justice programs, or even wants to have an abortion.

Then, because the “poor” person told me what they want, and because I, the interpreter of La Voz de los Pobres have listened, I give the “poor” permission to do what they want. I have effectively bypassed the Church and the authentic Magisterium. I, wielding the Holy Spirit, have listened to God in La Voz de los Pobres and that listening has given me all the authority I need no matter what the “official” Church says.

Say for the sake of this exercise I am a LCWR nun. I encounter another “gay” person. I listen. I can now affirm her in her “gayness”. I can affirm her because I listened to the voice of God in La Voz de los Pobres.

This blah blah from Sr. Deacon, reveals what these nuns are after: they seek to set aside the defined teaching of the Church and simply affirm their own desires. They are seeking to supersede the Magisterium of the Pope and bishops with their own Magisterium of Nuns, rooted in whatever the hell they want to do.

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The Pope wasn’t killed by a nail to the skull

Because of the abdication of Benedict XVI we had reason to turn the pages of our history books back to the resignation of Celestine V.

Who can forget that image of Benedict, then Pope, laying his pallium on the glass case which houses the body of the once-Pope Celestine?

Who can forget what Dante seems to do to Celestine?

In any event, at The History Blog, there is an article of a goodly length about Peter Celestine.

Here is how it begins:

Pope Celestine V was not killed by a nail in the skull

Celestine V’s papacy was doomed from the start. Born Pietro Angelerio in Sicily, from his early 20s until old age he was an ascetic hermit who lived in a succession of remote caves on top of mountains and modeled his life after John the Baptist. He founded the Celestine monastic order whose rule was based on his own strict practices of hair shirts and bread-and-water fasts, but left it to somebody else to run so he could retire to his beloved mountain-top cave. He was only dislodged from there very much against his will when the cardinals declared him Pope in 1294.

That was the last thing he wanted. The problem was the cardinals had been trying for two years to decide who should be pope after the death of Nicholas IV in 1292, but divisions between Guelph and Ghibelline factions and rivalries between the great Roman families of the Orsini and the Colonna (out of the 11 cardinals, three were Orsini, two Colonna and one, Benedetto Gaetani, Colonna-affiliated) had caused a seemingly unbreakable stalemate. At that time there was no conclave locking them in the Vatican until the decision was made, so two years of dithering were entirely comfortable. Pietro sent them a stern letter telling them God had told him that if they didn’t elect a Pope in four months, His wrathful vengeance would fall upon them. Much to his horror, their response was to elect him Pope.

At first he categorically refused and even tried to run away, but he was 79 years old and 200,000 people had flocked to his mountain after the news broke. Finally a finally a delegation of cardinals and two kings (the Angevin King Charles II of Naples and his son, King Charles I Martel of Hungary) convinced him to don the mitre. On August 29th, 1294, almost two months after his election, Pietro was crowned Pope in L’Aquila and became Celestine V.

He was awful at it.

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The piece goes on to recount the historical circumstances, Celestine’s abdication and then how the poor old man was treated under Boniface VIII.

Pope Celestine is venerated as a saint in the region of L’Aquila, and he appears as “saint” on the calendar of the Holy See. His feast is coming up soon, on 19 May.

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QUAERITUR: Why won’t the bishop let a priest come to say the TLM?

From a reader:

Can my Bishop refuse to allow a priest from another diocese to say the TLM in our parish? Our priest needs someone to cover the Latin Mass during the summer and a priest from an another diocese volunteered to assist. Quite generous and magnanimous!

However, apparently the bishop denied permission. Can he do that and if so why would he? Are some clerics that intimidated by the TLM? If so, why???

Are some clerics “intimidated” by the Traditional Latin Mass?  Of course they are!  What a question.  And you know why.

But that is not of the essence here.

The blunt answer is, yes, the bishop can in fact refuse to allow a priest from outside the diocese to come in and take over regular celebrations of Mass in a parish of the diocese.

Now I shall put on my stern face and warn you – whether you need it or not  – not to stick your nose too far into this because, frankly, it isn’t your business and too much speculation can be harmful to the priest, call him Fr. X, indeed the whole situation in the parish.

Some people love to bzzz bzzz bzzz about priests and bishops and they can do a lot of harm to them even when they don’t mean to.

That said, this is a chance to clarify some things about priests and faculties to say Mass, and visiting parishes, and so forth.

You must understand is that if a bishop determines that Fr. X is not to say Mass in the diocese, that is not to be automatically assumed to be punitive.  It might look like it is (and it may be, in fact), but, on the face of it, withholding of a permission or faculties is not automatically to be assumed as punitive.

But this is not really a matter of Fr. X having faculties.

The travelling/visiting priest, Fr. X, would already have faculties to offer Mass through his institute or diocese.  According to canon 903, a priest who has faculties should be presumed to be able to celebrate Mass in any diocese.  If the local pastor doesn’t know the priest already, he should ascertain whether he has faculties to say Mass, preach, hear sacramental confessions, etc.

In this situation, however, we are not just talking about a visiting priest saying Mass, a one time or occasional event, but rather a priest assuming responsibility regularly to say Mass in a place on a steady basis.  This is where the local diocesan bishop has a role of oversight.

The bishop has the obligation and the right to oversee the liturgy in his diocese. There may be good reasons for a bishop not to want a particular priest (or any priest for that matter) to come in from outside to take over a regular Mass in his diocese at a particular place.

Why would a bishop not want that?  Only that bishop can answer that.   And this is where my warning at the top comes into play.

Idle speculation as to the bishop’s motives would be contrary to Christian charity, unless there are other public reasons which give insight about his actions.   It may be that the bishop know things about the priest, or about the situation in that parish, which would make his decision not only reasonable, but justifiable.  Maybe the bishop has some positive plan of his own.

Do not leap to assume ill will or bad motives when it comes to these complicated cases.

The situation on the ground for priests who visit or travel can be pretty complicated in light of the clerical sexual abuse crisis of a few years back.  Lawyers, et al., and basic prudence, now require loads of paperwork and background checks and so forth for every priest who so much as sneezes in a diocese.  It is all rather unjust and tedious and humiliating, but it is what it is and we all have to bear with it for now.  Sometimes it take a while to get everything worked out.

The bottom line is: don’t leap to bad conclusions about what is going on and don’t go tattling and gossiping about this either.  Let the parish priest and the visiting priest and the local bishop work things out.

Generally they do work out over time and in a positive way.

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Pope Francis out for a spin … and a March for Life in Rome

Did you see this?

From CNA:

Vatican City, May 13, 2013 / 08:25 am (CNA/EWTN News).- Pro-lifers who had just finished the third annual Italian March for Life on Sunday were surprised to see Pope Francis coming toward them in the popemobile.

“It was a great joy for us because we didn’t expect this at all, we just expected his message,” said March for Life organizer Virginia Coda Nunziante.

“It was extraordinary because I met the people who unexpectedly saw him coming,” she told CNA on May 13.

The popemobile brought the Pope down the first block of Via della Conciliazione after he finished his first canonization Mass and the weekly Regina Caeli prayer on Sunday.

May 12 was also the day that around 20,000 pro-lifers from Italy and beyond converged on Rome to defend the unborn and call for an end to abortion in the country.

Their route took them from the Coliseum to Castel Sant’ Angelo, which sits on the end of Via della Conciliazione. A large number of the pro-lifers then continued down the street to be present for Pope Francis reciting the Regina Caeli.

Before praying the Marian prayer, the Pope acknowledged the presence of the group.

“I greet the participants of the March for Life which took place this morning in Rome and invite everyone to stay focused on the important issue of respect for human life, from the moment of conception,” he said.

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QUAERITUR: I found a Host at my mother’s house. Wherein Fr. Z rants a little.

From a reader:

While visiting my parents’ home (they are not Catholic; I am a convert), I was invited up to look at something on Mom’s prayer table.

I forget what it was … but out of the corner of my eye, something white caught my eye. Turning to look, I realized with shock that it was a Host. I asked how It had got there; Mom said she had gone to a Catholic church near her home and they had “handed these out” to everyone as they came up. So she took one too, but, not knowing what to do with it, she placed in on her prayer table near a picture of Jesus. (She’s a bit syncretistic in her religion.) So, what is the right thing for a Catholic to do after discovering such a situation?

What I did was, first knelt down to adore … stopped to explain to Mom that Communion is only meant to be received by Catholics …

adored some more, and finally, consumed the Host.

Did I do right? Should I have called the church or asked for a priest?

Reason #65665 for Summorum Pontificum.

First, allow me to observe that your mother, though not Catholic and not really understanding what the score was, seems to have had a greater sense of respect for the Host she was given than many cradle Catholics who blithely troop up for Communion as if they are getting their parking ticket validated.

You probably did the right thing.

Your mother’s explanation indicates that she brought that Host from Communion time during Mass.  Therefore, there was little doubt that It was properly consecrated.

In a case like this, consuming the Host directly or calling the parish priest are both decent options.  Another option would be carefully to wrap up the Host and take it to the parish, so that the priest could place it in the ablution cup.  The Host can then be dissolved and the liquid poured down the sacrarium.

Communion in the hand has created all sorts of problems.   It has decreased reverence for Catholics for the Blessed Sacrament and it has made it easier for people, for whatever reason, to take Hosts from churches.  For the most part, people who might walk out with a Host are not doing so out of malice or ill-intent.  They just don’t know what to do.  Then the Host winds up thrown away or casually tumbled about until it is broken up.

There are other people, however, who take Hosts for nefarious reasons.

Also, I should remind people that there is an automatic excommunication

 

for throwing away the Blessed Sacrament or selling or giving It for bad purposes.  In this case, however, you have to know that what you are doing is a mortal sin and then do it anyway with a free will in order to incur the censure.  The censure can only be lifted by a confessor who receives the special faculty to lift it directly from the Holy See’s Sacra Penitenzieria Apostolica.  Furthermore, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith treats as graviora delicta, “taking away or retaining the consecrated species for sacrilegious ends, or the throwing them away”.
In any event, we hear these tales of people finding Hosts from papal Masses glued into scrapbooks, Hosts under pews in church, Hosts in the pages of the missalette, Hosts stuck to gum on the bottoms of pews, Hosts on sidewalks outside church after Mass….I add this information here not because I think your mother incurred some kind of penalty (she wouldn’t have) but for the sake of being complete.   It may be that there is some parish “minister” out there pouring “extra” Precious Blood down the drain after Mass, maybe even at the direction of some stupid priest or deacon.  If so… knock it off!

 

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: let’s get rid of Communion in the hand.

We need more and deeper preaching and teaching about the Eucharist, and we need a revitalization of our celebration of the Eucharist… from clew to earring, as Preserved Killick would say.

Fathers!  This is the Year of Faith.  How about trying to move people to receive on the tongue while kneeling?

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Rail by rail!

One for the Brick by Brick file.

I had a note from a friend in the Diocese of Kansas City-St. Joseph, where the great Bishop Robert Finn presides.

At St. Andrew the Apostle on the north side of KC, Fr. Vince Rogers has installed a new brand new Communion rail!

My friend wrote:

He has installed altar rails in most of not all of the parishes in which he has served over the past 15-20 years.

He noted in his homily this morning, “So, why do I do this everywhere I go? It started when I was a seminarian at the NAC. Mother Teresa came to visit and when time came for communion, she went first and knelt on the marble floor and received. We all looked at each other and went up and knelt to receive our blessed Lord. From that moment forward……”

“The largest denomination in the US is fallen away Catholics. Why? Because we have forgotten what the Eucharist really is. If it’s only bread we are like pigs at a trough. If it is the body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ, then let’s act accordingly.

Prior to the rail, he had a double prie-dieu in front of the altar. Maybe 30-40% received kneeling. This morning, the first Sunday Mass with the rail, all but a dozen or so at the 8 a.m. Mass received kneeling. Several still received in the hand but many more received kneeling, reverently and on the tongue – likely for the first time. What happened to their heart, only time will tell.

Fr. Z kudos to Fr. Rogers.

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Of flower petals, firefighters, dedication, and holes in the roof

Today is the anniversary of the Dedication of the Roman church Santa Maria “ad Martyres“, which took place in 609.  This church is also called the Pantheon.

Since on upcoming Pentecost, Roman firefighters will be dropping red rose petals through the oculus of the mighty building, I figured we could review what I have posted in the past.

In Rome on Pentecost, in the Pantheon, now a minor basilica called S. Maria ad martyres there is a beautiful custom.

Rose petals are dropped through the circular oculus opening at the top of the dome, which is the widest is all of Rome, for all its antiquity.  The petals fall to the crowds below, reminiscent of the coming of the Holy Spirit like tongues of flame.

I posted photos taken over two different years here.  Some show the event from the inside of the Pantheon, and some show the mechanics from the outside.  My windon of my room in Rome was perfectly situated to see the dome of the Pantheon.

Here is how they get it done!  Notice the fire truck parked in front of the Pantheon.

 

 

The firemen, waiting on top of the dome, for the signal to drop the flower petals…

The moment arrives!

From within…

This is one of those lovely customs which we have only in Rome.

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Pope Francis canonizes the Martyrs of Otranto, slain by Islamic invaders

Today Pope Francis conducted for the first time the venerable rite for the canonization of saints.

Among the new saints are the Martyrs of Otranto.  In his sermon, Francis said:

Today the Church proposes for our veneration a group of martyrs who were called together to the supreme witness to the Gospel in 1480. About 800 people, who survived the siege and invasion of Otranto, Italy, were decapitated on the outskirts of that city. They refused to deny their faith and they died confessing the risen Christ. Where did they find the strength to remain faithful? Precisely in faith, which permits us to see beyond the limits of our human vision, beyond the confines of earthly life, it permits us to contemplate “the heavens opened up,” as St. Stephen says, and the living Christ at the Father’s right hand. Dear friends, let us maintain the faith that we have received and that is our treasure, let us renew our fidelity to the Lord, even in the midst of obstacles and misunderstandings; God will never let us lack strength and serenity.

As we venerate the Martyrs of Otranto, let us ask God to sustain many Christians who, in our own time and in many parts of the world, now still suffer from violence, and to give them the courage of fidelity and to answer evil with good.

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This is certainly a strong or “hard Catholic identity” message, rather than “soft identity”.

From the wikipedia entry:

On 28 July 1480 an Ottoman force commanded by Gedik Ahmed Pasha, consisting of 90 galleys, 40 galiots and other ships carrying a total of around 150 crew and 18,000 troops, landed beneath the walls of Otranto. The city strongly resisted the Ottoman assaults, but the garrison was unable to resist the bombardment for long. The garrison and all the townsfolk thus abandoned the main part of the city on 29 July, retreating into the citadel whilst the Ottomans began bombarding the neighbouring houses.
When Gedik Ahmed asked the defenders to surrender, they refused, and so the Ottoman artillery resumed the bombardment. On 11 August, after a 15-day siege, Gedik Ahmed ordered the final assault, which broke through the defences and captured the citadel. In the massacre which followed, all men over 15 years old were killed and all the women and children were enslaved. According to some historical accounts, a total of 12,000 were killed and 5,000 enslaved, including victims from the territories of the Salentine peninsula around the city.[2]
Some survivors and the city’s clergy took refuge in the cathedral to pray with their elderly archbishop Stefano Pendinelli. Gedik Ahmed ordered them to convert to Islam, but received a flat refusal and so broke into the cathedral with his men and killed all those inside. This included Pendinelli, who encouraged the survivors to turn to God at the point of death but was skewered and cut to pieces with scimitars before having his head cut off, put on a pike and carried round the city. Gedik Ahmed then turned the cathedral into a stable and sawed the garrison commander Francesco Largo to pieces whilst still alive.

Castle of Otranto
The townsfolk’s leader was now the old tailor Antonio Pezzulla, known as Il Primaldo, who also refused to convert to Islam. On 14 August Gedik Ahmed tied up the survivors and transported them to the nearby colle della Minerva, where at least 800 were beheaded, with their parents and families forced to assist in and attend the executions. Primaldo was the first to be beheaded – tradition holds that his decapitated body remained standing until the final person was beheaded, despite his executioners’ efforts to push him over. The chronicles record that an Ottoman Turk called Bersabei saw how bravely the Otrantines were dying, converted to Christianity and was impaled by his own comrades.
After thirty months Otranto was recaptured by an Aragonese force under Alfonso of Aragon, son of the king of Naples.

The relics of these martyrs were eventually translated to the church of Santa Caterina a Formiello in Naples, under the altar of the Our Lady of the Rosary which commemorated the victory over the Ottomans at Lepanto in 1571.

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Beati qui…

Someone shared with me a graphic that indicates the amount different states of these USA tax your beer.  From TaxProf:

Did you that the last voice in the mighty Lewis & Short Dictionary is for a form of Egyptian beer?

 

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QUAERITUR: People who walk away with Hosts

From a reader:

twice in a month I have seen two examples of people receiving the Body of Christ but not consuming it in my diocese. Thankfully both Priests were strict in how they dealt with this. In the first instance, a young man walked away with the host and the Priest made him consume it. The other occasion an elderly lady took the host and when the Priest called her to come back he took the host and simply gave her a blessing, were they both correct?

It seems very worrying that this should occur, although I know of some of the abuses which have resulted from the practice of receiving in the hand.

First, I would be say that the priest was “strict”.  I would say that he was “diligent”.  This is what priests are supposed to do.

It could have been that the two people in question were non-Catholics who did not really know what to do, but, yes, this is a problem that results from Communion in the hand.

It is also a result of decades of poor catechesis and shabby liturgical worship which weakened reverence for the Eucharist.

How to change this?

We need better and more frequent preaching about the Eucharist and the sacrificial dimension of Mass.  We need clear statements in parish bulletins about how to receive Communion and who may receive.  We need to persuade people to move away from receiving in the hand.

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