QUAERITUR: EMCHs and people who want blessings

From a reader:

In our large parish, I serve as an Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion. Yes, I know, there are preferred ways of approaching the distribution of the Eucharist, and this is not ideal. However, I feel as long as our parish is going to have them, I can do the service of treating the role as respectfully and reverently as possible. As you know, in many parishes it is not unusual for someone to approach with their arms folded, apparently seeking a blessing. I clearly do not feel it is my lay role to administer a blessing in this situation, and after prayer and consultation with informed experts, decided the best I could do would be to quietly say, "May the Lord bless us, protect us from evil, and bring us to everlasting life." This is the same prayer I close with when praying the Liturgy of the Hours, and it is satisfying while not crossing the line of me offering a blessing. I do not touch them, I do not extend a hand over them, I do not make the sign of the cross over them. I view the blessing and those actions as the role of the priest. Well this weekend, a woman approached with her arms folded and the most hopeful, expectant look one could imagine seeing. I proceeded as I normally do and still she stood in front of me, with this expectant look on her face. Staring back, my hand suddenly went out to her shoulder, and once I removed it she went on her way. I didn’t say anything else or even pray anything else at that time; in fact, it almost felt involuntary. So the question is, what should I have done? By no means do I think I need to go to the confessional with this, and yet I feel somehow…perhaps as if I betrayed her. As if she thinks I offered her something I did not offer. If we are to serve as Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion, how do you suggest we deal with the case of the arm-folded un-communicant? And how do we respond to the persistent ones like I faced?

It sounds as if you handled this well. You clearly recognize your role in the distribution of Holy Communion as an extraordinary lay minister.

What can you do? Ask your priests to preach about blessings, the differences between ordained ministry, and who EMCHs are.

This could be a good opportunity to do some catechesis. If the priest won’t do it, be prepared to talk about it with others when the topics come up.

I am sure this comes up in parishes. This gets into the question of blessings at Communion time, of course. I think that practice ought to be phased out through instruction.

 

UPDATE 2231 GMT:

Someone posted in a comment below that there is a letter from the CDW which deals with the issue of hands.  This might not be an official response of the Congregation, but it is a guideline:

 

[Protocol 930/08/L] 3. Furthermore, the laying on of a hand or hands — which has its own sacramental significance, inappropriate here — by those distributing Holy Communion, in substitution for its reception, is to be explicitly discouraged.

 

I added this because the questioner mentions putting a hand on someone’s shoulder.  Note: shoulder, not head.

 

Posted in ASK FATHER Question Box | Tagged , ,
74 Comments

Game over in France? Who’s next?

The young Papist has a rather dire note about the Catholic Church in France.

Christian Campbell, an Anglican blogger who aspires to full communion with Rome, excerpts an article in French newspaper La Croix which details how rapidly France is de-Christianizing:

The IFOP Institute has just made a survey on Catholicism in France for the daily La Croix. The result is mind-blowing:

*Whilst, in 1965, 81% of the French declared themselves as Catholics, they were no more than 64% in 2009.
*More serious: whilst 27% of the French went to Mass once a week or more in 1965, they are no more than 4.5% in 2009. [Higher than I thought. I wonder what part of that 4.5% attend the older form of Mass.]
*At a doctrinal level, generally, it’s a catastrophe: 63% of practicing Catholics think all religions are the same; 75% ask for an “aggiornamento” of the Church on contraception and even 68% for abortion.
*As for communion with the Roman Pontiff, the situation is no better: only 27% of practicing Catholics consider that Benedict XVI “rather well” defends “the values of Catholicism” (personally, I don’t even understand the question, but that doesn’t matter) when 34% think he defends them “rather badly”.

This is a cautionary tale, folks.

Our Lord promised that the Church would survive until He returned.

He did not promise it would survive in France.. or in England, or the United States or anywhere else…. even Rome.

Think about the once thriving ancient Churches in North Africa and Asia Minor.

Wasn’t France known as the Roman Church’s eldest daughter

There are no guarantees that the Church in your region will survive.

There are no guarantees that your diocese or your parish will survive.

They won’t if you are not involved and willing to give support, even at some cost.

Posted in The future and our choices | Tagged
62 Comments

QUAERITUR: removing gloves before Communion in the hand

From a reader:

One question:  does any document specifically state one must remove gloves prior to receiving on the hand?  I have always taught this to be the case as I was taught, but presently cannot find a citation to rest the case with those who disagree. 

I don’t think there is a document that states that you must remove gum from your mouth before receiving either.

If you are wearing gloves, for the love of God, receive on the tongue!  Or take them off?

Is this hard?

Posted in ASK FATHER Question Box |
20 Comments

QUAERITUR: baptism of Catholic’s child in a non-Catholic service

From a reader:

My brother-in-law (to-be), her CATHOLIC brother, is having a baby in a few months and is planning to have the child baptized in a Presbyterian service.  I was told at one point that it might be a cooperation in Moral evil (schism) to attend services of another denomination.  I was also told at another time that in support of a family member, this would possibly be permissible.  So I ask you Father, ought we go to the baptism?  Assuming that the "Creator, Redeemer and Sanctifier" mumbo-junko doesn’t make an appearance?

What about attending a CATHOLIC cousin’s protestant wedding?  Would that be recommended?  I assume that there’s no hard and fast rule here… But as your spiritual children, what would you advise us?

I forgot to mention Father, that her brother has asked us to be the godparents…  What do you think about that?

 

There is information lacking here, of course.  First, we can only guess at the dynamics of the family ties here.  Also, we don’t know the religious affiliation of the wife of the Catholic brother in law to be.

Still, you cannot be godparents to a child of a Catholic who is choosing to have the child baptized in a non-Catholic denomination.   He is demonstrating that he doesn’t have the will to raise the child in the Catholic faith. 

Second, your closest spiritual father is really your pastor at your parish.  You should ask him what to do about this.  In the meantime, I repeat that I don’t know the circumstances well enough to counsel on what you should do.   It may be that the Catholics involved in making these fairly bad decisions might have had such a bad formation that they truly have no idea that what they are doing is wrong.  Your reactions will therefore leave them puzzled.

My general view is that you should not attend the weddings of Catholics who have chosen not to marry in the Church, particularly when they know that it is wrong to do so.  You have to make some allowances for the possibility that your not going would truly harm your possible good influence in the future.  But for the most part, when people attend such services they give the impression that they are okay with what is going on.

Again, I cannot give you an iron-clad rule in this.  I urge you to seek your pastor at your parish and ask his advice after explaining all the different angles.

Folks, be a little careful about these situations.  They are very delicate.  Consider what is truly for the good of the people involved, in charity and truth, and not only what will make you feel proud of yourself at the moment.

Posted in ASK FATHER Question Box |
8 Comments

The kerfuffle in Thiberville, France seems to be resolved, for now

I read on Fratres that the dust up in France over the replacement of a pastor (who coincidentally celebrated Mass with the 1962 Missale Romanum) is, for the time being resolved… in favor of the people who wanted the pastor to remain.

I am informed by the Forum Catholique article that Bishop Nourrichard has backed off, after having seen the Apostolic Nuncio, Archbishop Luigi Ventura, recently appointed to France by the Pope. This Nuncio was previously in Canada, and this much-loved prelate was known to our Canadian TAC Bishops, as Bishop Peter Wilkinson has told me.  

The new priestly team appointed by Bishop Nourrichard will not minister in Thiberville and the 12 other churches of the parish group, and Fr. Michel is to be allowed to continue his ministry.  

Bishop Nourrichard spent the day last Thursday in Paris with the Nuncio. The scandal of Thiberville had taken on international dimensions.  

Many priests in France in France and elsewhere have refused to be moved from their parishes. What is now happening is that Benedict XVI wants parishes and the stability of their priests to be respected by diocesan bishops.  

The tide has turned. Deo gratias! And may this be an encouragement for us all.

Posted in Linking Back | Tagged ,
46 Comments

15-18 Jan St. Paul, MN

I must be in St. Paul this weekend for meetings.

Posted in What Fr. Z is up to |
Comments Off on 15-18 Jan St. Paul, MN

San Francisco, CA 12-14 Jan

I will be joining some folks at Joyent, who is my internet provider for WDTPRS!

Posted in What Fr. Z is up to |
Comments Off on San Francisco, CA 12-14 Jan

Do a blogging priest a favor

Go to this Orthodox priest’s blog and make his stats spike like nothing he has ever seen before!  Freak him out a little.

You can do it. 

Everyone!

It’ll just take a moment. 

CLICK HERE

o{];¬)

Posted in Lighter fare, Mail from priests |
16 Comments

How to make altar boy program grow by 500%

I enjoyed this post from Stella Borealis:

Boy altar server involvement in Mass increases 500% by making rules more demanding [Do I hear an "Amen!"?]

By returning to more demanding altar server practices, two men were able to increase participation at their parish from 10 to 60.

"Altar serving at Holy Family allows boys to be more fully integrated into the Mass and gives them a chance to experience Christ’s sacrifice up close. Holy Family provides an environment that makes them feel welcome and necessary and is an excellent experience". Carson Lind, 19 year old, 7 year veteran

The need it meets

Bob and Mark, members of Holy Family Catholic Church in St. Louis Park, Minnesota, wanted to see more boys actively involved in the Mass. They felt that being an altar server could help boys participate more fully and possibly discern a priestly vocation. Bob and Mark approached their pastor, Father Dufner, [A friend of mine for many years.] and shared with him their vision.

Where it came from

Both men had served in all-boy altar server groups as boys and remembered the experience with fondness. They wanted to share this experience with the boys in their parish.

How it works [Pay attention…]

First, the men proposed making the program only for boys. [That means that they came to the pastor with a plan.] They believed this would increase the boys’ desire to participate in the program. Father Dufner agreed. Next, the men worked on creating a more reverent atmosphere by using cassocks and surpluses and by buying uniform footwear [I once proposed that perhaps requiring crew cuts and hard polished dress shoes could help.]. Finally, the men trained the boys in the traditional roles of altar servers, but instituting cool nicknames and a system of ranks, which made them more accessible and attractive to the young boys. With these stricter guidelines, the program has seen great growth.  [Of course.]

The results

In the last seven years, it has grown from 10 participants to 60. There is a wide range of ages involved, giving older boys the chance to mentor younger ones.

Key elements

The men believe that several key elements have helped the program grow. The boys at the parish have responded well to the all-boy atmosphere, especially the extra time it has allowed them to spend with Father Dufner, both during training and outside of Mass at numerous program activities such as bowling and fishing. The boys have also been motivated by the hierarchy of ranks, along with the program’s high standards of order and discipline.  [Repeat after me: "This isn’t hard.  This isn’t hard."]

How to implement it

A good way to implement this program is to find male adult leaders who have a desire to see greater participation by boys in the Mass and encourage them to begin an altar boy program. Help these leaders to create a fun, competitive environment by instituting a system of ranks with nicknames, enforcing a strict dress code, and organizing complementary sports activities just for the altar servers. This will help motivate the boys to serve God and their church.

 

Sounds good to me.

Posted in "How To..." - Practical Notes, Brick by Brick | Tagged ,
54 Comments

Sewing straight with crooked lines

You have probably heard stories about how people hid their sacred objects in time of war.  Bells were buried, books and vessels walled up behind pictures, etc.  Or how revolutionaries covered images over which served to preserve them.

Unbelievable find!  In Bremerton, WA the EF Mass has returned to Our Lady Star of the Sea after 40 years.  Monsignor had the foresight before he died to have the old unused vestments properly stored.

Recently we uncovered this fiddle-back chausuble (part of a perfect Solemn High Mass set) which remained in use after the ‘changes’, post Vatican II, by being sewn to a TABLECLOTH!  They actually did an exceptionally good job.  Soon it will be tailored back to proper condition.

I received this by e-mail.

Posted in Brick by Brick, Just Too Cool |
11 Comments