This is from October, but I am just seeing it now. I thought I’d share.
Arrogance incarnate?
Yesterday we all read about the Bombshell. HERE Four Cardinals presented formal “Yes/No” questions (dubia) to Pope Francis and to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith about confusing points which were stirred up by the Post-Synodal Apostolic Exhortation Amoris laetitia. The dubia were originally submitted privately. When, after a congruent time of waiting, the dubia received no response, The Four went public with the dubia, including some explanatory paragraphs. This they did in the spirit of Matthew 18:16-17 (“If your brother will not listen to you, take with you two or three witnesses. If then he will not listen even to them, tell it to the assembly.”)
Today I see at LifeSite an interview with one of The Four Cardinals, His Eminence Raymond Card. Burke. Card. Burke explains what The Four did and why they did it. He explains their motivations and their attitudes.
Burke describes the difficulties roused up by Amoria laetitia like…
knots that cannot be easily untied and are causing great confusion. Sharing the Pope’s devotion to Our Lady, Untier of Knots, we are asking him to clarify these ambiguous statements and, with the help of God, to untie some of the knotty statements of the document for the good of souls.
In the interview Card. Burke provides a bit of a time-line of what lead up to the crafting of the dubia and their submission. In this way he provides some context. He also puts to rest direct questions from the interviewer about their motives, whether or not they are being defiant towards the Roman Pontiff. He also explains and doubles down on his view that Amoris laetitia isn’t a Magisterial document:
My position is that Amoris Laetitia is not Magisterial because it contains serious ambiguities that confuse people and can lead them into error and grave sin. A document with these defects cannot be part of the Church’s perennial teaching. Because that is the case, the Church needs absolute clarity regarding what Pope Francis is teaching and encouraging.
It is important to understand that The Four are seeking clarity from Pope Francis not only about the thorny issue of whether or not the divorced and civilly remarried can be admitted to Holy Communion. What is at stake are far deeper, more fundamental moral and doctrinal positions which had been explained carefully in the Magisterium of St John Paul II, especially in Familiaris consortio but also in Veritatis splendor. Burke says in the interview:
I would also like to point out that only the first of our questions to the Holy Father focuses on Holy Matrimony and the Holy Eucharist. Questions two, three, and four are about fundamental issues regarding the moral life: whether intrinsically evil acts exist, whether a person who habitually commits grave evil is in a state of “grave sin”, and whether a grave sin can ever become a good choice because of circumstances or intentions.
If the answer to that question is No, there are consequences for how we are to read the rest of Amoris laetitia. If Yes…
Also, Card. Burke delves a bit into what is truly “pastoral” (a word tossed about often and casually these days). As you might imagine, Card. Burke does not omit connecting what is truly “pastoral” to “truth spoken with charity”.
Take a little time with your morning coffee and toast to read the interview. It isn’t overly long. It will dispel in advance the Smear Machine’s approach from lib catholics who will attack The Four and try to discredit them. The last thing that lib catholics want is clarity (or charity). For lib catholics, ambiguity and fog is advantageous: all the better to continue in immoral behavior and in doctrinal error.
UPDATE:
ANOTHER interview at National Catholic Register:
Some complete…. jerk… busted one of the tusks off the delightful Bernini elephant in Rome near the Pantheon, in front of S. M. sopra Minerva. HERE
In the Rome of Our pontificate, this person would have things broken off of him during prime time!
I can’t tell you – with the vocabulary I would choose off the blog – of what I think of vandals like this.

The Deep Cinders of Hell my not be deep enough. At least during Our pontificate they wouldn’t be.
I saw this story a few days ago at Pewsitter, but I am just now getting to it. I was reminded to return to it by the comment made by one of my correspondents:
Spain has lost it’s mind.
Frankly, I was deeply worried that, had the recent election gone the other way, this was coming to the shores of these USA… sooner, rather than later.
Spain…actually, Catalonia…
Spain: Government Encourages Citizens To Inform On Neighbors, Family Members That Violate LGBT Privileges Law
CATALONIA, Spain – The Catalonian government, ruled by the pro-independence coalition Junts pel Si, has run advertisements on TV3, a major network, to encourage citizens to anonymously inform on one another when they violate an LGBT privileges law enacted in 2014.
The law, approved by then-president Artur Mas in 2014, is called the ‘Law to Eradicate Homophobia, Biphobia and Transphobia.’ The law is peculiar with respect to the body of Western legal tradition in that it reverses the burden of proof: It is the defendant (in this case, anonymously betrayed via telephone) who must prove his innocence. The accused is considered guilty until innocence is demonstrated.
Article 30 of the law reads as follows: ‘Reversing the burden of proof: in accordance with the provisions of the procedural and laws governing administrative procedures, when the plaintiff or a person alleges discrimination based on sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression and provides legitimate grounds for suspicion, it is therefore for the defendant, or the one to whom the discriminatory situation is imputed, to provide an objective and reasonable justification, sufficiently proven, of the measures taken and their proportionality.’ The Catalan law of LGBT privileges (model for other similar laws in Spain) can be read here in Spanish.
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Did you get that?
You can accuse someone of being a “homophobe” and that person is, therefore, a “homophobe” unless she can prove that she isn’t.
Evil.
And it’s coming.
Imagine children, indoctrinated in schools, reporting on their parents and neighbors.
Imagine something like the Cultural Revolution, but based on sodomy instead of the Party.
I received a note from a priest of the Fraternity of St. Vincent Ferrer which I share now with the readership:
Dear Father Zuhlsdorf,
I hope this message finds you well. I am FR. JORDAN-MARY, a priest of the Fraternity of St. Vincent Ferrer (FSVF). If you are not yet familiar with our community, we are a group of traditional Dominicans based in France, founded in 1979 and canonically erected as a society of pontifical right in 1988. If you’d like, there is more information available on our website at www.vincentferrer.org .
A group of our priests will be in New York City in order to introduce our community to the American public and to speak about the construction project which we have undertaken to complete our motherhouse in France, including the magnificent conventual church which is already underway. [Isn’t it interesting that the (traditional) Carmelites in Wyoming and the (traditional) Benedictines in Missouri and the (traditional) Benedictine in Clear Creek) are all building?]
In conjunction with this project, we have produced a short video explaining the work we are doing and giving some information about our community. We are acquainted with your wonderful website, and we would be very grateful if in your charity you would be willing to share this video along with a brief text explaining these events to your readers.
With the assurance of our community’s prayers,
FR. JORDAN-MARY
PS.
Our English website : www.vincentferrer.org
Share link for our promotion video : https://youtu.be/RgPh_1rADoY
Our English Facebook page :
https://www.facebook.com/Fraternit%C3%A9-Saint-Vincent- Ferrier-307784896223936/?fref= ts What we are doing in New York:
From the 15th to 22nd of November 2016, the Founder of the Fraternity Saint-Vincent-Ferrier, father Louis-Marie de Blignières (Ph.D.), accompanied by two fathers of his Community, father Reginald-Marie Rivoire (J.C.D.) and Ambrose-Marie Pellaumail (Sc.D.), will be in New York.
Thursday 17th: Holy Innocents Church (128 W 37th St). 18:00 : Solemn Mass in the Dominican Rite, followed by a conference. Sunday 20th : Pequannock, New Jersey, Our Lady of Fatima Chapel (32, W. Franklin Ave.) Masses and Homily: 9:00 ; 11:00 (Solemn Mass followed by a refreshment in the parish and a conference ; 17:00.
Monday 21st : Saint Vincent Ferrer Parish, run by the Dominican Fathers, (869 Lexington Avenue). 19:00 : Solemn Mass in the Dominican Rite, followed by a conference.
UPDATE: I’d be willing to bet that The Four are merely the tip of the spear. I’d wager that they represent a large gang of quiet Cardinals who want answers, but because they are presently in curial or diocesan positions they are hesitant to raise their heads too high.
___ ORIGINAL published on: Nov 14, 2016 @ 01:39 ____
Four Cardinals (aka The Four) who presently do not have a curial or diocesan role wrote a letter to Pope Francis in September. The letter also went to Card. Müller, who is Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
The Four asked five pointed questions in the classic form of “dubia“… “doubts” … that needs only “Yes” or “No” answers. They did not get a response. Therefore, in the spirit of Matthew 18:16-17 (“If your brother will not listen to you, take with you two or three witnesses. If then he will not listen even to them, tell it to the assembly.”), they have gone public.
The questions are about the Pope’s Post-Synodal Exhortation Amoris laetitia!
Sandro Magister has it. HERE
The basic structure of what you will read.
It is thick reading, but rewarding.
The Letter from The Four was dated 19 September, which was some 10 days after Pope Francis sent a letter to Argentinian bishops giving his informal approval to a problematic document they wrote about how to implement Amoris laetitia.
The questions, or dubia, concern the concrete issue of sacraments (Penance and Eucharist) for the divorced divorced and civilly remarried who refuse continence as well as about absolute moral norms.
You should go to read the whole thing there…. but here is the introduction:
To His Holiness Pope Francis
and for the attention of His Eminence Cardinal Gerhard L. MüllerMost Holy Father,
Following the publication of your Apostolic Exhortation “Amoris Laetitia”, theologians and scholars have proposed interpretations that are not only divergent, but also conflicting, above all in regard to Chapter VIII. Moreover, the media have emphasized this dispute, thereby provoking uncertainty, confusion, and disorientation among many of the faithful.
Because of this, we the undersigned, but also many Bishops and Priests, have received numerous requests from the faithful of various social strata on the correct interpretation to give to Chapter VIII of the Exhortation.
Now, compelled in conscience by our pastoral responsibility and desiring to implement ever more that synodality to which Your Holiness urges us, we, with profound respect, we permit ourselves to ask you, Holy Father, as Supreme Teacher of the Faith, called by the Risen One to confirm his brothers in the faith, to resolve the uncertainties and bring clarity, benevolently giving a response to the “Dubia” that we attach to the present letter.
May Your Holiness wish to bless us, as we promise constantly to remember you in prayer.
Card. Walter Brandmüller
Card. Raymond L. Burke
Card. Carlo Caffarra
Card. Joachim MeisnerRome, September 19, 2016
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3. The “Dubia”
1. It is asked whether, following the affirmations of “Amoris Laetitia” (nn. 300-305), it has now become possible to grant absolution in the Sacrament of Penance and thus to admit to Holy Communion a person who, while bound by a valid marital bond, lives together with a different person “more uxorio” (in a marital way) without fulfilling the conditions provided for by “Familiaris Consortio” n. 84 and subsequently reaffirmed by “Reconciliatio et Paenitentia” n. 34 and “Sacramentum Caritatis” n. 29. Can the expression “in certain cases” found in note 351 (n. 305) of the exhortation “Amoris Laetitia” be applied to divorced persons who are in a new union and who continue to live “more uxorio”?
2. After the publication of the Post-synodal Apostolic Exhortation “Amoris Laetitia” (cf. n. 304), does one still need to regard as valid the teaching of St. John Paul II’s Encyclical “Veritatis Splendor” n. 79, based on Sacred Scripture and on the Tradition of the Church, on the existence of absolute moral norms that prohibit intrinsically evil acts and that are binding without exceptions?
3. After “Amoris Laetitia” (n. 301) is it still possible to affirm that a person who habitually lives in contradiction to a commandment of God’s law, as for instance the one that prohibits adultery (cf. Mt 19:3-9), finds him or herself in an objective situation of grave habitual sin (cf. Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts, Declaration, June 24, 2000)?
4. After the affirmations of “Amoris Laetitia” (n. 302) on “circumstances which mitigate moral responsibility,” does one still need to regard as valid the teaching of St. John Paul II’s Encyclical “Veritatis Splendor” n. 81, based on Sacred Scripture and on the Tradition of the Church, according to which “circumstances or intentions can never transform an act intrinsically evil by virtue of its object into an act ‘subjectively’ good or defensible as a choice”?
5. After “Amoris Laetitia” (n. 303) does one still need to regard as valid the teaching of St. John Paul II’s encyclical “Veritatis Splendor” n. 56, based on Sacred Scripture and on the Tradition of the Church, that excludes a creative interpretation of the role of conscience and that emphasizes that conscience can never be authorized to legitimate exceptions to absolute moral norms that prohibit intrinsically evil acts by virtue of their object?
The letter of The Four is humble and respectful, but clear. They clearly did not want to be adversarial in tone. The Four merely want some clarity about “grave disorientation and great confusion” which has been provoked by now infamous elements of Amoris laetitia.
In particular, keep in mind that many people have wondered whether there is an ongoing effort to undermine the Magisterium of St. John Paul II.
You know what will happen next.
The Four will be pilloried by the liberal catholic smear machine, who will seek brow-furrowed quotes from their current darlings, their exemplars of pastoral sensitivity, their hopes for sweeping “change”.
The fact that The Four do not presently have curial or diocesan roles means that – short of having their red hats taken away – the Pope can’t remove them from offices that they don’t hold.
This, folks, is a big deal.
UPDATE:
The Fishwrap (aka National Schismatic Reporter… which, frankly, has no credibility until they start being honest and stop using the word “Catholic” in their title) has twisted the move of The Four. Get this spin from Fishwrap“:
Four semi-retired cardinals [Card. Burk, 67, is not “semi-retired] have publicly questioned Pope Francis’ most recent teachings on family life, issuing an open letter to the pontiff with five yes or no questions about how he understands church teaching following the publication of his apostolic exhortation Amoris Laetitia. [It is not that they “publicly questioned” the Pope’s teachings. They are asking questions so that they can have clarity about the Pope’s teachings. There is a difference, at least in common English parlance.]
While the cardinals say they are writing the note in “an act of justice and charity” to allow the pope to “dispel all ambiguity” [There is no question that there is ambiguity in the Apostolic Exortation. Reasonable people want ambiguity in important matters cleared up.] about his exhortation, they take a defiant tone [No. There is nothing defiant about the tone used by The Four.] and pit Francis’ document against others written by his predecessors John Paul II and Benedict XVI. [No. The Four did not “pit” Francis against John Paul II. FRANCIS pitted Francis against John Paul II… or so it seems. So, The Four have asked, giving Francis the benefit of the doubt, how does what we read in AL harmonize with what we read in the Magisterium of John Paul II. They want to know if there only seems to be a conflict or if there really is a conflict. That’s a reasonable thing to ask, even for the sake of lifting any suspicion from Pope Francis himself!]
Publication of such an open challenge to a Catholic pontiff from some of his cardinals, who normally act as the pope’s staunchest defenders, is exceedingly rare. [They asked questions. They didn’t issue challenges.]
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Remember what I wrote, above, about how the lib catholic smear machine would paint The Four?
Thus beginneth The Smearing of The Four.
From a priest…
QUAERITUR:
A simple question that arose for me this week for obvious reasons. Is schadenfreude a sin that should be confessed?
This requires a lot of deep thought, prayer, time to reflect.
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Okay.
No. In this case, it’s not a sin. Enjoy!
Meanwhile, everyone should, please, read THIS. By the way, there are lessons in this article, especially towards the end, for what’s going on the in the Church today.
Today through mutual friends I received news of a Serious Tragedy™ that befell a fine and, one might say, heroic priest.
You would know this priest as the one who delivered the superb sermon before the presidential election on 8 November (that O so happy day). HERE
Yes, dear readers, the Serious Tragedy™ befell Fr. John Lankeit, Rector of the Cathedral of Sts. Simon and Jude in Phoenix!
“But Father! But Father!”, some of you faithful Catholics are saying, “What was the Serious Tragedy™, tell us quickly! We know that you will give us the straight stuff in charity because you obviously both READ the documents of Vatican II and you understood them, and you – traditional as you are – are neither rigid, insecure, or hiding something!”
Some 5 years ago or so, Fr. Lankeit crossed my radar because he, quite properly, initiated all male service at the altar at the Cathedral. HERE and HERE
As a token of my esteem, I sent him some Z-Swag, to wit, a coffee mug and other stuff from the Z-Swag Store.
Today I learned that – and I can hardly write this for the tears that brim from my eyes and patter with sad November splashes on my keyboard – he has broken his coffee mug!
No, no, dear readers! Be not distraught, though your sympathetic hearts surely have cracked wide open in pain for him. No, no! Father Z has a remedy, a balm for the wound we collectively sense!
How about this.
Go to my Z-Swag store, pick out a mug, and send it to Fr. Lankeit!
This will serve several purposes, not the least of which is show to him the gratitude we have for his outstanding sermon before the election.
Honestly, I’ll bet that that sermon moved some Catholics in their consideration of the candidates.
Give poor poor Fr. Lankeit a shot in the arm, as it were, a token of thanks, a boost.
Bombard the grief-stricken Rector with Z-mugs of solidarity and love. (I’ll bet he’ll even pass on a few to the mighty Bishop Olmsted and other good priests.)
Send to…
Very Rev. Fr. John Lankeit
Rector
Cathedral of Sts. Simon and Jude
6351 N 27th Ave
Phoenix, AZ 85017
Our Lord told us, in Matthew 5, “Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect.”
Now, something that is perfect has no need to change. Need to change implies imperfection. A god who changes wouldn’t be God at all. Dig, dig and we find that God simply cannot change. God is … “rigid”.
Our Lord told us, in effect, “Be rigid, as also your heavenly Father is rigid!”
And… come to think of it, God is also Mystery. He could even be said to be hiding something…
UPDATE:
[I am so encouraged that so few people figured out what I did here.]
I’ve been on the road for a couple days, so I’m just now getting to this.
From LifeSite [with my emphases and comments]:
Pope Francis on the young who like Latin Mass: ‘Why so much rigidity?’
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Nooooo.
On second thought, I’m not going to put time and energy into this.
I would only ask the following of any Latin Church priest, of any ecclesiastical rank or role, who refuses to learn, or to use, the older, traditional Roman Rite:
Why the rigidity?
If young people are somehow defective in the matter of “love” because they want the older, traditional forms, then, by all means, show us how to be flexibly loving.
I have maintained for years, and still maintain, that Summorum Pontificum was one of the most important things that has happened in the Church in a long time. It was certainly one of the most important moves of Benedict XVI’s pontificate.
No effort of renewal in the Church will succeed without a revitalization of our sacred liturgical worship. Use of the traditional forms is key to such a revitalization.
We need more and more and more celebrations of the older, traditional form of the Roman Rite. Let’s make that happen.
The moderation queue is definitely ON.
PS: Fr. Hunwicke has some good comments. HERE I liked this one in particular:
This is splendid: an authoritative declaration that the word “extraordinary” means “exceptional”. Let us hope that an appropriate Authority very soon makes it clear that the employment of “Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion” must only ever be a tremendously rare “exception”. Perhaps a simple rule such as this would suffice: “Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion may only be used in parishes in which there is at least one Sunday Mass in the Extraordinary Form.” Could anything be more equitable than that? Anything more ad mentem Summi Pontificis?