What Does The Prayer Really Say?
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I got this by e-mail from a reader.

Dear all,

I have been told that Bishop Hollis, of the Portsmouth diocese, has pulled the
Q&A piece written by Paul Inwood.  It will now not be published in the
diocesan newspaper, the Portsmouth People.  Deo Gratias!

Thank you for your prayers and responses in this time.  If you did write to
the Bishop, it might be helpful to write again in thanks.  I was informed he
was genuinely unaware of the contents of the Q&A until the whole thing blew
up in his face.  The blogosphere certainly seems to have worked this time!

Here is the statement on the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum of the Diocese of Plymouth, England, and the Bishop His Excellency Most Reverend Christopher Budd.  It is reaching me just now, through the services of a priest friend in the UK.  However, take note that it seems to be dated from August 2007, which I find a little odd. 

I think this is odd because suddenly the English dioceses are now releasing their statements, almost as if they got their collective act organized.  There are similarlities between some of them. 

It seems to be addressed only to priests, so it isn’t a general statement to the laity of the diocese.

In any event, here is the statement with my emphases and comments.

SUMMORUM PONTIFICUM

I am sure you will all have read either the Motu Proprio or reports of it in the press. I would like to make the following comments:

+    Anyone intending to use the 1962 Missal will need to learn it thoroughly, including some of the prayers by heart. It is rubric-heavy and all of the rubrics must be scrupulously adhered to. It also requires that you recite the Latin, either out loud or silently, so that it makes sense. Competence in both language and rubrics is crucial. [Okay, this sure sounds hard.]

+    Anyone learning this rite from new will need to demonstrate to me that they are competent in its celebration.  [I suppose there will be a test?   Will His Excellency now start also reviewing the competence of men celebrating the Novus Ordo?]

+    The rite of the 1962 Missal is extraordinary. [!] The principle ‘ad extraordinarium nemo tenetur’ means that no priest is obliged to learn how to celebrate according to the 1962 Missal.  [I must hand it to this bishop: This is the first time I have seen in any statement that principle cited in Latin.  However, it strikes me that all priests of a Rite should know how to celebrate their Rite.]

+    Any liturgical formation, either for ourselves or others, will continue to be based on Sacrosanctum Concilium, GIRM 3, the introduction to the Lectionary, Redemptionis Sacramentum and Sacramentum Caritatis. The same principles relate to both ordinary and extraordinary rites.  [I suppose this means that there will be special care in liturgical formation of priests now so that none of the abuses described in Redemptionis Sacramentum are occuring and so that Latin and Gregorian chant will have pride of place in the liturgy as described in Sacrosanctum Concilium.]

+    In regard to Sunday celebration according to the 1962 Missal, I would suggest that a minimum of fifty people [An interesting suggestion, but NOT in keeping with the actual provisions of Summorum Pontificum.  In the MP no minimum number is given.] should be requesting it before we make any arrangements for a weekly celebration of that rite (cf. SP Art. 5 para. 1). I suspect we may have to provide a willing and competent priest to celebrate it in certain centres across the Diocese, depending on requests. I wish to be personally involved in all decisions of this nature (i.e. Sunday celebrations).  [That is a nice wish.  We must also take note that the Motu Proprio says that the PASTOR of parishes is the one who is making the decision on this and the bishop helps if there are problems.]

+    It may be suggested that we should invite into the Diocese willing and competent priests from outside. In general, I would not be keen to authorise this. It sounds like a presbyteral version of flying bishops!  [I am not sure what this refers to, but I can sympathize with it.  However, is suspect my reason and his might be somewhat different.  I would hope that all things relating to the pastoral care of people desiring the older forms could be handled by priests of the diocese.  I think his reasons might be different, but we can’t really tell that from what he wrote.]

+    May I urge you to celebrate the present liturgy (the ordinary rite) of all the sacraments of the Church ‘attente et devote’. The quality of the parish celebration of the renewed liturgy is an important context for the permitted use of the rite now designated `Extraordinary’. [This statement is interesting.  He is saying there is a connection between the way the newer Mass and the older are celebrated.  On the surface, this seems to say that the care given to the newer Mass needs to be at least as good as the attention given to the older.  It strikes me that that would be the case in a place where the older Mass is being considered.  Still, we can be sure there will be a "gravitational pull" exerted by the older Mass on the way the newer Mass is celebrated wherever they may be.   That is the key.]

August 2007

Aside from the somewhat intimidating, and maybe overreaching "test" he will impose on a priest, and the "suggestion" of 50 people as a minimum  – which just cannot stand up I think, there is at least an indication here that he wants things done well.   

A step is taken in Sino-Vatican relations and the flock in China gain a shepherd.   Check out this Asia News story. 

All is ready for the ordination of the new bishop of Beijing

Only those invited will participate in tomorrow’s celebration, among security measures a ban on (foreign) media. The faithful reassured by papal approval.

Beijing (AsiaNews) – Everything is ready in the capital ahead of tomorrow ceremony for the ordination of the new bishop of Beijing, Msgr. Giuseppe Li Shan, who – according to various church sources – has full Holy See approval.

The ordination will begin a 9.00 am tomorrow morning in the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception (Nan Tang). Because political figures of note are among those present all of the guests have been asked to reach the church by 7.30 for security reasons. The number of the congregation is limited and has been equally distributed among representatives of the bishops, clergy, religious and lay.  In order to take part in the ceremony many priests and seminarians have been in the capital for days, travelling from Shanxi, Hebei, Guangdong. Journalists are not being allowed to attend the event; but it is highly probable that the ban only regards foreign press, while state agencies will be permitted entry.

According to AsiaNews sources, the principal ordinant will be Msgr. Giovanni Fang Xingyao of Linyi (Shandong).  Msgr. Paolo Pei Junmin of Liaoning will also take part in the celebration. Both prelates (54 and 38) are part of the new generation of bishops approved by the Holy See.

In recent days numerous faithful from both the Underground and Official Church have wondered if Msgr. Li Shan had Vatican approval, or if the tradition of Fu Tieshan, the patriotic bishop who died in April this year would be continued.  Church sources in Beijing reassure that the ordination of Msgr. Li has papal approval.

Up until now Msgr. Li Shan has remained on spiritual retreat which traditionally precedes ordinations.

Msgr. Giuseppe Li Shan, 43, is considered by all to be a true pastor and a man of faith, capable of relating to the faithful and the political authorities.  From Beijing, he is part of a family with a long Catholic tradition.  He has never travelled abroad, not even to study.

Do you remember the perfectly dreadful statement on Summorum Pontificum made by the Diocese of St. Augustine in Florida?   It stirred up quite a negative reaction, and with good reason too.  Bp. Galeone spoke about it in the radio and a public, open meeting was set for Tuesday 18 September. 

There is a report on a blog, Barque of Peter.  I think he would want me to share his notes of the meeting, which I do below with my emphases and comments.

Crash and Burn- The Diocese of St. Augustine Meeting on the Motu Proprio

I wouldn’t have believed it if I hadn’t witnessed it for myself! I went to the meeting 9/18/2007 about the implementation of the motu proprio in the Diocese of St. Augustine with guest speaker, Fr. Thomas Willis Diocesan Director of Liturgy. If I had to estimate, I’d say about 70 people were there. Among which were two deacons and three priests. I knew that there may be some controversial topics brought to the floor but I never expected this:

First, the man who was MC for the event introduced the topic and ground-rules of the discussion. He stated that there wouldn’t be discussion of what constitutes a "stable group" nor discussion about what "ideoneus" means. [Odd.  Both of those seem to be at the crux of the issues.  Even if they had been hesitant to talk about things needing clarification from Rome, they could have discussed the bad translation (i.e., "stable group").] The MC stated that the people gathered are a "minority devoted to the traditional mass which no longer wishes to be treated like lepers" [Well that sets a nice tone!] and mentioned that the traditional liturgy had been "banished to diocesan exile". Then he stated that Fr. Willis was representing Bishop Galeone.

When Fr. Willis came to the podium he stated that he had prepared a talk on the subject of the motu proprio but will not give it since the MC’s introduction made his talk seem contradictory. With much protest from the audience, Fr. Willis conceded to give his speech but said that he "does not give any permission for his talk to be recorded". Mind you, he was invited to speak, it was not his meeting per se not to mention that this meeting was advertised on the local radio and bulletin board outside the Cody Enrichment Center. He also asked if anybody was from the secular news media. All present that I could tell stopped recording, including the local Catholic radio station- EWTN affiliate WQOP which was prepared to record the meeting.

He said that he has been subject of much personal ridicule over the internet being called "the terrorist", and mentioning that it had been mentioned that tonight was the night challenge him. The people in the audience convinced him to go ahead and give his talk anyhow.

Next, Fr. Willis gave "a history of the Roman Mass" [What the…?!?] saying that in the early 20th Century some monastic orders in Europe were given dispensation from the Vatican to use "experimental liturgies", these were supposed to be kept under wraps (I’ve never heard of that before) but that laypeople from the village came to hear the Mass in their native tongue and the trend caught on. Thus was the groundwork for the liturgical form. He also mentioned that "useless repetition" was eliminated with the New Mass. He said that the Novus Ordo is more of a restoration of the Mass of the early Christians. But we’ve heard that so many times before.  [So what?   This is all entirely IRRELEVANT.]

Fr. Willis mentioned that before motu proprio Ecclesia Dei Adflicta was issued, that then diocesan Bishop John Snyder met with the prefect of the Congregation of Divine Worship who presented to the bishop a stack of letters sent to Rome stating that the bishop hadn’t acceded to the requests of the faithful for the traditional Mass.  Fr. Willis said that Bp. Snyder pointed out that most of the requests weren’t from locations postmarked in this diocese. He also mentioned that most of the requests for the Latin Mass in this diocese have been few and far between.

Fr. Willis said that he did not send the Memorandum to the clergy of the Diocese of St. Augustine. He said that the bishop penned most of the memorandum himself, and it was sent out under his name but he did not issue it himself.  [.... huh? ....]

Some of the questions from the meeting from the audience were about how a priest is to be trained. He said that the bishop told him personally that he doesn’t want to make it impossible for a priest to prove himself "qualified".  [You know… a lot of things don’t have to be impossible for them to be unreasonable hard.] He said a priest would have to show [How?] that he can use the rites appropriately before being able to use the Mass just as he does before he is ordained. [Okay… so are we going to have official reviews of how priests are saying the newer Mass?] When asked what the diocese is going to do to help priests who want to say the extraordinary form, Fr. Willis said there’s a website to go to for that information but he isn’t sure of its origin. Someone mentioned that the website may be http://www.sanctamissa.org/. He told one of the audience members that if a priest desired to go to the FSSP for training that he may do so- it’s up to the priest.

Some people asked why the diocese seems so negative about the situation and why not take a more proactive response to the motu proprio. I would say they were the questions that we’d all expect to be asked along with some frustration about the memorandum that was sent out.

Fr. Daniel Cody was in attendance and asked what sort of help the diocese would be able to offer to a pastor who needs help with the Latin Mass. That was certainly encouraging to hear from a priest, whereas another priest was present who said that he dislikes the Latin Mass and refuses to say it.

Fr. Willis said that if anybody wants to know why the pope called the pre-Conciliar rites the "extraordinary form", and the post-Conciliar rites the "ordinary form" that they should ask the pope themselves if they get the chance.  [Hmmm…. ]

One person, mentioning himself to be a convert to the faith and who said he’s in his 20’s, stated that he believes that most younger people are "afraid of the Church officials"- afraid of what young people will be treated like if they make their voices known about their love for the traditional Mass. [OKAY… PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT FOLLOWS] Fr. Willis followed this comment up by making the most shocking comment that he made all night. It was a study from Creighton University saying that people who have ADD can focus better at the Latin Mass with all the silence than at the Novus Ordo where there is more "active participation". [&#%0@*^!?] The whole room took that comment very personally and became very upset. I never heard him recant or say to the effect "I’m not speaking of you as individuals". He just said it and let it go (to the best of my recollection) while the whole room was in a flurry. I could not believe that a diocesan official would be so bold. Many people, including myself, took that comment to heart and it is quite saddening. However, I suppose now I know why he didn’t want to be recorded.

In all, it was a social disaster. It was obvious to me that the people who asked the more poignant questions were looking for straight-forward answers, and perhaps to have their voice heard after decades of silence.

Our Lady of Sorrows- Pray for us!

I better wrap this so that you folks with ADD can go find a quiet Mass in Latin somewhere.