More anti-baby talk from Speaker Pelosi (D-CA)

The Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) is pro-abortion and she says she is Catholic. 

Archbishop Niederauer of San Francisco, where her district is, was going to have a chat with her about that, but we haven’t heard much about what happened.

I picked this up from the Drudge Report:

PELOSI SAYS BIRTH CONTROL WILL HELP ECONOMY
Sun Jan 25 2009 22:13:43 ET

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi boldly defended a move to add birth control funding to the new economic "stimulus" package, claiming "contraception will reduce costs to the states and to the federal government."

Pelosi, the mother of 5 children and 6 grandchildren, who once said, "Nothing in my life will ever, ever compare to being a mom," seemed to imply babies are somehow a burden on the treasury.

The revelation came during an exchange Sunday morning on ABC’s THIS WEEK.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Hundreds of millions of dollars to expand family planning services. How is that stimulus?  [I suppose there is an amusing way to answer that…. but…]

PELOSI: Well, the family planning services reduce cost. They reduce cost. The states are in terrible fiscal budget crises now and part of what we do for children’s health, education and some of those elements are to help the states meet their financial needs. One of those – one of the initiatives you mentioned, the contraception, will reduce costs to the states and to the federal government.  [So!  Let’s get rid of the babies!]

STEPHANOPOULOS: So no apologies for that?

PELOSI: No apologies. No. we have to deal with the consequences of the downturn in our economy.

I wonder if in those first 10 seconds in hell, the eternally lost soul in a moment of stark realization considers the consequences of his own "downturn".

The Social Security system will probably collapse because, as the population ages, not enough people pay into it to support those who will draw from it. 

How many abortions have there been since Roe v Wade?  

How’s that for a strain on the nation’s budget?

The United States will one day probably be involved again is a serious conflict, which will truly have to engage the whole populace.

How many abortions have there been since Roe v Wade?  

Who will bear arms and be productive when the crunch comes?

Explain to me again how thwarting God’s will results in blessings for individuals, families, communities and nations?

Sometimes the way these pols speak, when talking off the cuff, truly reveals their mindset.  Remember the "I don’t want my daughter punished with a baby" comment?  Perhaps Speaker Pelosi’s comments above reveal something of the same mindset. 

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56 Responses to More anti-baby talk from Speaker Pelosi (D-CA)

  1. opey124 says:

    I would also like to know, or at least someone admit, that the synthetic hormones used in birth control is affecting us all, because it is getting into the water system. It doesn’t break down as the hormones naturally produced in our body. I want to know this.

  2. Matt of South Kent says:

    Oh boy, on we are on my home turf, economics.

    Nothing stimulates economic growth like a baby boom. Why do you think the European and Japanese economies have been living on US life support? NO BABIES

    They need a lot of stuff and are constantly out growing the stuff they already have. Then, they go to school – more stimulus.

    I feel so bad for the democrats because they are so short sighted.

    They should give a $10k credit for every child born in the next 3 years.

    Then they should push through national health insurance (through existing companies). That would put our companies on par with most of their competitors and would make the burden of unemployment not so harsh.

    I am not a capitalist, I am a Roman Catholic.

  3. stgemma0411 says:

    My biggest problem with the economic numbers has to deal with a population problem. If the population of tax paying citizens is down versus even a year ago, how can you not have an economic downturn, much less having the number of tax paying citizens being down in relation to say 20-25 years ago. Less people means less tax money to pay for federal budgets, state budgets, etc. Why are these people killing their own constituency?? Instead of creating new programs and raising taxes, why don’t you institute “life” laws aimed at creating a larger population to tax from so you wouldn’t have things like trillion dollar deficits. I just can’t understand the mentality of these people, murdering the hand that feeds them.

  4. Matt of South Kent says:

    Is Pelosi the speaker of the house of the People’s Republic of China?

    That’s the PRC’s policy. Amazing.

  5. BillyHW says:

    They should give a $10k credit for every child born in the next 3 years.

    Yes, yes–the solution is more socialism!

  6. Andrew, UK and sometimes Canada says:

    Pelosi, the mother of 5 children…
    In other words: “My large family (by modern standards),” says Pelosi, “is good and deserving and I’m entitled to have five children because I have a posh job, but the children of the poor teeming unemployed masses are a burden on those working families (like me) who pay taxes. I believe, of course, in charity and social justice and helping my fellow-person but not when it means helping those people raise children.”

    What Victorian-age rubbish! Smacks of notions of the deserving poor and Pelosi’s own tendencies towards self-importance. Additionally, with all respect to Americans who lead the world in personal charity, their social welfare net has the reputation of being one of the meanest in the Western world so additional children shouldn’t be too great a burden. And in an age when politicians are telling us to spend in order to support the economy, wouldn’t the financial costs of raising children for twenty-odd years be one of the biggest stimulants of all? Nope, better buy the plasma screen instead.

  7. John Enright says:

    Excellent post, Father! I couldn’t agree with you more.

  8. TJM says:

    This is stunning. Not only is Ms. Pelosi’s statement a public repudiation of her Faith but it is bad economics as well. As another poster has already
    stated, a baby boom would help the economy, not harm it. I have come to the conclusion that Ms. Pelosi is not only an ideologue but a dim bulb as well.
    Tom

  9. DavidJ says:

    As a father of young children, sometimes I really and truly fear the world I\’m raising them in and the future they will face.

  10. Bill White says:

    Consider the advent of “universal healthcare”:

    – the government pays for your childcare

    – the government is broke

    – the government will ensure you have fewer children

  11. John Enright says:

    I agree with TJM. Economically, the constraints on population only enhance our problems with Social Security and Medicare. That, however, is beside the point because the position Speaker Pelosi advances is simply evil. She must be a “dim bulb” if she’s willing to trade her immortal soul for fleeting fame and glory.

  12. sacerdosinaeternum says:

    Is it consistent for practicing Catholics to ignore or exploit the poor and the marginalized, to promote sexual behavior contrary to Catholic moral teaching, or to adopt positions that contradict the right to life of every human being from conception to natural death? Any tendency to treat religion as a private matter must be resisted. Only when their faith permeates every aspect of their lives do Christians become truly open to the transforming power of the Gospel. (Pope Benedict to US Bishops, 2008)

    How long will you look on, Lord? You see this, LORD; do not be silent! (Psalm 35)

  13. Maureen says:

    So, Speaker Pelosi, I’m sure that you took the money you would have spent at Christmas on your children and grandchildren and voluntarily donated it in their name to the federal budget office this year.

    No?

  14. ken says:

    There is a fundamental change underway around the globe concerning children which is embraced by the Demonic party. Children are viewed as liabilities or burdens. BO even said this during his campaign. The root cause of this view is a lack of faith or hope. We are entering dark times.

  15. Andy K. says:

    So….. when will she be excomm’d?

    *awaits a decree*

  16. And so who is going to foot the bill for Social Security without a LARGER population base rather than a smaller set to feed the system? Who is going to feed me in the nursing home? Who in the heck is going to buy all the houses on the market today in the over-developed glut of housing?

    Its insane thinking.

    A friend of mine recently said, “being in mortal sin makes you insane y’know”. In that darkened state of ill-will how can anyone make sense?

    I’m not making any judgments of Pelosi’s internal condition or what made her this way or intention of heart, as I don’t know. But it APPEARS that her actions, and those of many in today’s society, relate to the unwillingness to do good and the disruptive nature of their attitude about the Faith.

    More and more, I feel like the lone sane man in the kingdom of the mad. [thank God for Fr Z and fans]

    But really, its DEMONIC. The objective of Evil Personified is human suffering and ultimately extinction. If humans cannot live, then humans cannot do good or glorify God.

    The human sacrifice from which Cortez and Our Lady of Guadeloupe freed the Aztecs is now being re-instated by these insane and blood-thirsty individuals.

  17. Print this out and send it to Pelosi’s bishop! Will he now deny her Holy Communion? It couldn’t be more “public scandal” than this!

  18. RANCHER says:

    Short of a miracle Pelosi’s positions on abortion, birth control, embryonic stem cell research and same sex marriage will not conform to Catholic teaching…so, the Church with an exercise of intestinal fortitude, ought to excommunicate her immediately based on her on-going words and actions. Then, at least, two goods derieve. One, she can no longer claim (and be advertised as such by the mainstreet media) to be a “good, practicing Catholic” and, two, a very needed message will be sent to others of similar ilk. Of course the chances of those others gettng the message are probably slim or none.

  19. Bart says:

    Pelosi is a very evil woman.

    This is the “Malthusian madness”! – Google it!

    PELOSI: “No apologies. No. we have to deal with the consequences of the downturn in our economy.”

    Sure, WE have to deal with the consequences, but THEY caused this mess!

  20. Baron Korf says:

    Father,

    Did you drop the word ‘punished’ from that quote?

  21. kat says:

    I blogged about this early this AM.

    It is all about the power over the people. These are the folks who want to give you “universal health care” and have the power to dictate medical treatments for every American: if 85 year old ladies get cancer treatment, if babies with genetic disorders are quietly “put to sleep”, if mamas of 6 kids are sterilized without their knowledge, if teen girls are injected with birth control, if doctors and nurses and Catholic hospitals will be forced to participate in abortion…

    To say this is scary is putting it mildly.

    I thought of calling Ms. Pelosi’s office and suggesting that we eliminate 3 of her 5 kids and all the grandchildren that came from those 3 children. That is what she wants to do to “average” Americans- but I couldn’t think of a way to say it without coming across as a nutjob.

    Interesting that this blurb came only days after it was reported that there is likely to be a mini baby-boom from all the love at the hope and change inauguration.

  22. Xpihs says:

    Like Tina said.

    Exactly how is a smaller future tax base a good thing for government spending? And in looking at it over all, it’s like the government complaining that there are too many people in order to have the government programs so let’s limit the population so we can have universal coverage of entitlements and let’s worry about an ever shrinking tax base to cover an ever increasing burden (through immigration and by those that don’t choose contraception) under another administration.

  23. Bill says:

    This (Speaker Pelosi’s argument) is just nuts.

    What’s next? Let’s kill all the old people who are no longer working and are just causing additional strain on the economy because of their healthcare needs and their Social Security benefits?

    Something has gone very wrong with the leadership of the Democratic Party, and it seems to be getting more wrong all the time.

  24. RANCHER says:

    The Democratic Party has leadership? Oh…not by any good definition of leadership that I’ve ever seen.

  25. Clinton says:

    I agree with Bill White’s post above — we can only expect the healthcare programs of a financially strapped
    government to lean towards the ruthless reduction of costs. It’s a bonus for an administration such as this
    one that such considerations dovetail neatly with its culture of death ideology. Consider also what sort of
    “healthcare” can be expected by the infirm elderly, by people with disabilities, and by the terminally ill who
    consider euthanasia. By Madam Speaker’s cold logic, the solution for such cases would be a final one.

  26. If this kind of ‘pogram’ didn’t affect all of us, I might wonder what happens if these types continue to exterminate themselves. Hmmm. Will that leave those who recognize the natural law and those who don’t follow this evil agenda?

    [does the definition of “pogram” now widen from organized persecution of an ethnic group to include anybody?]

  27. Magdalene says:

    And she continues to receive Holy Communion regularly? And her priest and her bishop have yet to explain what the Church teaches so she can continue to claim she is a Catholic in ‘good standing’ and continue to give scandal. Her priest and bishop participate in this scandal as well. Shame.

    This is the culture of death also entrenched in our Church.

  28. I also posted this in the AM, When we realize that the SSPX is not the problem and admit that we have lost the foundation of our faith then we can begin, maybe we need a large dose of TRADITION, to right things. Bishops, please, grow a pair, it is they not you who are politicizing the Eucharist, and using you for a fool.

  29. MargoB says:

    John Enright:

    When I read your comment about Speaker Pelosi being a “dim bulb,” it made me stop and think. I do not agree at all with her actions, and I do not mean to excuse her. But presumably, she doesn’t think she is a dim bulb.

    She strikes me, more, as a very public example of the lack of proper catechesis that has been going on for too many years. Again, *not* to excuse her — we are all responsible to form our consciences in accord with the Church. But when she claims to be a good Catholic and also speaks and acts as she does, I wonder, does she even know about forming her own consicence?

    Just a thought.

  30. Robert says:

    Fr. Z,

    That quote from Pres. Obama should be “I don’t want my daughter punished with a baby.” (45 seconds in)

  31. GregY says:

    Sounds like His Excellency in San Francisco has lots of material for that dialogue.
    How’s that going by the way, I wonder?
    And, after having dialogued, should the Congresswoman has no change in her stance, would there be any public remonstration???
    just askin’

  32. GregY says:

    PS, Here’s the reality:
    No one actually believes this has anything to do with stimulus. This is payback to the NARALs of the world.
    Which is the sad reality of what our politics have become (for both parties, I might add): legislation for the highest bidder.

  33. Tiny says:

    I wonder how far away she is from following her logic to its natural conclusion; what’s the word? Senicide? You could have your retirement party and your funeral on the same day; think of the savings!

  34. Lee says:

    DavidJ, you write

    “As a father of young children, sometimes I really and truly fear the world I’m raising them in and the future they will face\”

    But this has been the case for decades, and probably for centuries.

    You have no reason to fear the culture, for the very good reason that you are the gatekeeper of your own little castle. You can keep “the culture” out. You can create your own Catholic culture in your own home.

    Practical steps; 1) throw out the TV; 2) Bring the lives of the saints in; 3) Keep the other mass media out; 4) Bring the Baltimore Catechism in; 4) Keep lesbian aunts and atheist uncles out; 5. Pray with your children briefly but often (before meals, before they go out to play, before they go to sleep); 6) Make one night of the week, or better, every night of the week family night, with something like the following recipe: a) read out loud together 1/2 hr of good secular literature such as the Chronicles of Narnia; b) 1/2 hr of the lives of the saints- full book length biographies; c) Do 20 minutes of the Baltimore Catechism beginning about age 4 (sic).

    We did that and have 28 and 30 yr old children who never rebelled in the least, never asked why they had to go to Sunday Mass, and are now daily communicants, besides being strong, healthy, affable, academically and professionally successful individuals, and one a contemplative nun.

    You have nothing to fear from the culture. The only thing you have to fear is yourself, really. If you cannot live without a TV, for example, your success as a Catholic parent is doomed, and the souls of your children gravely threatened.

  35. TJM says:

    MargoB,

    Actually I referred to Ms. Pelosi as a dim bulb. It’s beyond peradventure that she is: anyone who believes more babies are a problem for the
    economy hasn’t the first clue about economics or demographics. The American people deserve better than a Congressman who attained her high position
    solely because her husband is a multi-millionaire investment banker who contributed big bucks to the Dems and effectively bought his wife a seat.

    By the way, in terms of her Faith, Ms. Nancy is old enough to have been trained properly. She simply has chosen to ignore what the Church teaches.

    Tom

  36. Jess says:

    She seems to represent her constituents well enough and she’s entitled to state her opinions on policy, but I really just don’t understand why she continues pretending to be Catholic.

  37. Kazimer says:

    There are some people who are crazy.

    There are some people who are stupid.

    There are some people are both crazy and stupid ~ Nancy Pelosi is one of these people

  38. Kazimer says:

    There are some people who are crazy.

    There are some people who are stupid.

    There are some people who are both crazy and stupid ~ Nancy Pelosi is one of these people.

  39. evil personified has spoken…and i’m not buying it.

    So much for having common sense to get a degree in something ;)

  40. TJM says:

    Jess, Ms. Pelosi has actually called herself an “old fashioned Catholic.” Perhaps she means ones like Henry VIII. Tom

  41. Jess says:

    TJM, well, she certainly doesn’t mean ones like Thomas More.

  42. Forrest says:

    News flash!!

    AP (Jan 26, 2009)– Satan, who’s been at work for more than 100 centuries attempting to destroy mankind and take over God’s kingdom on earth, announced today that he was finally taking some well-deserved time off. Mr. Satan’s spokesman, D Iabolus, said “Yes, it’s true, after what seems eons of prowling about the world seeking the ruin of souls, Mr. “S” is finally taking the next few weeks off to relax and recharge. He felt that with Mr Obama, Ms Pelosi, and Mr Reid watching things, it was a great time to finally make that trip to San Francisco he’s always wanted. It’s been 3 or 4 thousand years since his last vacation in Sodom and he really needs to unwind for the work of the next 4 years, er, millenium.”

    Satan, who left for the City by the Bay early this morning, was not available for comment.

    The depth of Pelosi’s stupidity and heresy is breathtaking…when in Heaven’s name will a bishop (or the Holy See) finally and formally EXCOMMUNICATE HER???? It’s truly maddening and we wonder why the SSPX raises so many concerns about Vatican II. Are authoritative statements from the Vatican denouncing such SCANDAL no longer in vogue?

    Mother Mary help us!

  43. Lucy says:

    Tina in Ashburn:

    In answer to your question about who will feed you in the nursing home – they won’t feed you, because once they’re done killing all the babies, they’ll start on the elderly and when we’re elderly, we’re in trouble.

  44. Mitch says:

    Is anyone else just tired of her like I am? She has a big mouth and talks about alot of things publically that she seems to know nothing about. There is a fine line in being confident and knowledgeable in one’s own convictions and being a know it all. She just comes off as the latter more times than not. She needs to be quiet and rest, she looks rather tired anyway.

  45. Peggy says:

    Can we also suspect Ms. Pelosi of Margaret Sanger racism? It presumed that most folks on the public dole are not white. While the majority of all abortions are obtained by white women, nearly 40% of black pregnancies end in abortion and the Latino abortions are above 20% as well. [Going on memory, my own calcs of CDC info–not as recent as mid-2000s, but presumably the trend may be consistent (if not worsening?).]

  46. taad says:

    As Catholics, we should have some means of recourse when other so called
    Catholics, force us to act against our conscience, like forcing us to fund
    abortions, contraception, pass out contraception, perform abortions and the
    like. She is now directly forcing her immoral beliefs upon us. We as Catholics
    should have some means within the church to take actions against such people.

  47. Tiny says:

    I just think it’s a little weird that in the same news week we have Bp. Williamson denying one pogrom and Nancy Pelosi advocating another.

  48. Cygnus says:

    At the West Coast Walk For Life, someone altered a sign to read: “Women deserve better than Nancy Pelosi.” I went over to him and apologized on behalf of all pro-life native Baltimoreans that Pelosi too was from our hometown.

  49. Steve K. says:

    taad – “As Catholics, we should have some means of recourse when other so called
    Catholics, force us to act against our conscience, like forcing us to fund
    abortions, contraception, pass out contraception, perform abortions and the
    like. She is now directly forcing her immoral beliefs upon us. We as Catholics
    should have some means within the church to take actions against such people.”

    Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord, I will repay.

    Whatever recourse we might have, would be nothing in the face of what the Judge has on offer for the unrepentant. Indeed, our recourse should be an act of mercy, like excommunication, so that she does not further imperil her soul. I wish Abp. Niederauer would keep that mind; I am sure he and others like minded are trying to avoid provoking political strife, but they shouldn’t at the cost of souls, which is what turning a blind eye to Pelosi et al’s activities amount to. Is it pastoral to allow her to run on carrying out her mad program? Excommunicating her and Biden would surely provoke the beast, but it’s not like we are going to avoid that conflict. They are coming for us.

  50. TJM says:

    Cygnus, why apologize? It’s the truth and isn’t like lefty signs referring to Bush as
    “ChimpyBush Hitler.” Tom

  51. Joe says:

    One can be assured that Archbishop Wuerl will do nothing. Bishop Wuerl expressly approved granting Holy Communion to John Kerry whenever Kerry was in the Pittsburgh Diocese.

    I realize that we must pray for the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden, for nothing is impossible with God. God, however, compels no one to follow Him.

    I am more than sick and tied of supposedly Catholic politicians support this garbage.

    Vengence is indeed God’s, and vengence will be visited upon the United States and all who support the Culture of Death in God’s own time – unless there is repentance. For repentance, there must be humility, and humility is nonexistent in the Democrat Party.

  52. Jordanes says:

    TJM, Cygnus was apologising to the sign-holder
    that Pelosi was from Cygnus’ hometown. That is, Cygnus was agreeing with what the sign says.

  53. Maynardus says:

    Seriously – does anyone else think that we are witnessing the beginning of a concerted campaign by the political left in this country (embodied in one particular party) against the Church? It’s not like we didn’t know that they – even the “Catholics” amongst their membership – believe these things, but the tone has really shifted perceptibly. The imperious and arrogant attitude manifested by – among other things – San Fran Nan’s “no apologies” statement and the President’s acts and statements in his first six days in office bespeak more than an intention to enact a particular legislative philosphy; it’s like they’re spoiling for a fight and hoping to provoke the Church into denouncing them.

    And when (some of) the bishops respond, expect to hear more and more calls for the elimination of the Church’s tax-exempt status. And worse. It couldn’t happen here? Think again…

  54. It was September when the Archbishop of San Francisco said he would sit down and talk with her. Does anyone know if he has done so? If so, it hasn’t worked. Hopefully, he will impose some kind of sanction to avoid scandal.

  55. Tod says:

    Who is Pelosi’s home Sunday priest? Who is her home Sunday Archbishop?

  56. MVH says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if this arrogant and obstinate woman thinks that rich and working-class people can afford their own contraceptives and poor people cannot. And since the poor are such a drain on the budgets of “the states and to the federal government,” they shouldn’t reproduce. So why not kill 2 birds with one stone?: Help the economy by keeping the poor from reproducing.

    She and her ilk seem to think that “the poor” don’t love children . . . in or out of the uterus.

    Quamdieu Domine?