Remember when Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) – Theological Mastermind and Doctrix of the Church – said that her faith compelled her to endorse same-sex marriage and when she said she was going to side against the bishops? Or … or… or…
What do you think of this?
Pelosi On Contraception & Faith: “I Do My Religion On Sundays, In Church”
“Well I don’t think that is the entire Catholic Church,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said about the lawsuit brought against the Obama administration by numerous Catholic institutions in the U.S. “Those people have a right to sue, but I don’t think they’re speaking for the Catholic Church and they’re are people in the Catholic Church, including some of the bishops, who have suggested that some of this may be premature.”
“You know what? I do my religion on Sunday in church and I try to go other days of the week. I don’t do it at this press conference,” Pelosi said curtly at her weekly press conference.
WDTPRS responds: Coward!
There is, of course, video.
I hope that some reporter from CNS or other Catholic outlet parks in the front row of every single presser she does and ask those questions over and over and over.
Here is theCan. 915 swag you can get.
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Clock in, clock out. God’s hour is done for the week.
video?
never mind. found it.
Ms Pelosi may be physically present in a Church building, but what she does there can not be described as religion, whether on Sunday or any other day … at least not the religion she claims to practice … perhaps that is why she said she does ‘my religion.’ Hers. Which makes it surprising that she doesn’t want to talk about it at press conferences. Because that is where bears most faithful witness to ‘her’ religion .
The Tuetonic knights, originally good catholics Im sure, became about power only when the Baltic became catholic, but they still fought.
Once they were even losing power, the Grand Master became Lutheran – belief is so relative compared to getting power and keeping it- , starting modern Prussia.
My information is that this caused woe to mankind, not just catholics, for centuries.
We should not be “doing” our religion, Nancy Pelosi! We should be “living” our religion. Our Catholic Faith should be “doing” / remaking us. St. Paul wrote “Put on the mind of Christ.” We all need a “mind” transplant to be inconformity to the GOSPEL of Jesus Christ and His Holy Church!
“I don’t do [my religion] at this press conference.”
“Just don’t get me started on Saint Augustine.”
“I do my religion on Sunday in church…I don’t do it at this press conference”
Preeeeeeeeeettty sure you’re doing it wrong, there.
It’s funny that she understands “ex cathedra” to be infallible. How about faith and morals, Nancy?
WDTPRS responds: Coward!
I hate being the devil’s advocate, although that was my job for a while. But if we parse that statement, “I do my religion on Sunday morning,” that’s probably what 99.9% of practicing Catholics do.
It’s one thing to say, “I do my religion on Sunday morning,” and quite another to say “I live my faith only on Sunday morning.” Now, the former is the way-vast majority of Catholics and I don’t know if we can have a huge problem with that whereas the latter I think we all would agree is a serious problem.
So Speaker Pelosi is really saying that former rather than the latter, and given the opportunity to distinguish I would respectfully submit she would say that’s what she meant.
But if we parse that statement, “I do my religion on Sunday morning,” that’s probably what 99.9% of practicing Catholics do.
No small number of priests included.
@frjim4321, who said, “…if we parse that statement, “I do my religion on Sunday morning,” that’s probably what 99.9% of practicing Catholics do.”
It really doesn’t matter if that’s what 99.9% of practicing Catholics do — that is, the majority numbers don’t make it right. If 99.9% of Catholics only “do” their faith on Sunday morning, but .1% “do” their faith every day (I’m not talking about attending daily Mass, I’m talking about living the Catholic faith) then the 99.9% aren’t right just because they’re in the majority.
“It’s one thing to say, “I do my religion on Sunday morning,” and quite another to say “I live my faith only on Sunday morning.””
I see no difference in these statements.
Not really. I was equating “religion” with the cultus and “faith” with the 24/7 implementation of the gospel.
. . . because I think that’s what the Speaker was doing.
I think in the context of her fuller sentence, namely “I do my religion on Sunday in church and I try to go other days of the week. I don’t do it at this press conference,” she meant that she was not going to bring her ‘religion’ into the press conference. By implication she will not bring it into her work. So I think the interpretation of Fr Z. is right on.
Let’s hope she keeps her word and stops trying to justify what she does on the basis of “her” Catholic faith.
Fr Jim: God be praised she isn’t the speaker any longer.
May she never take the gavel again
Amen Disco!
. . . because I think that’s what the Speaker was doing.
Nonsense. No one was asking her to recite the Creed and bow at the correct time. No one was asking her to say the Gloria or the Agnus Dei.
Has anyone checked to see if the letters in Nancy (Patricia D’Alesandro) Pelosi’s name add up to six hundred threescore and six?
If they don’t, someone clever with nothing better to do could no doubt find some way of matching her with a title or variation of her name that does add up to DCLXVI. If nothing else, maybe she lives in D.C., drives a Lexus, and considers herself a Very Important person.
Whatever. Neither she nor her boss resembles the Antichrist more than the common cold resembles Ebola. There’s bad, and then there’s bad on a scale that makes you forget about all the evil things done by Hitler, Stalin, Nero, and the Aztecs.
Pelosi is her own “Pope.”
Here she is dressed for the occasion http://www.freakingnews.com/Nancy-Pelosi-Pope-Pictures-83777.asp
“Well I don’t think that is the entire Catholic Church,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said about the lawsuit brought against the Obama administration by numerous Catholic institutions in the U.S. “Those people have a right to sue, but I don’t think they’re speaking for the Catholic Church and they’re are people in the Catholic Church, including some of the bishops, who have suggested that some of this may be premature.”
“You know what? I do my religion on Sunday in church and I try to go other days of the week. I don’t do it at this press conference,”
The ‘those people’ must be the ones with the ‘conscience thing’ she pointed out a while back in the HHS mandate history.
You know what? Some people do laundry, do their hair, do lunch, do homework, do their jobs, do grocery shopping, do housework, do yardwork, do some visiting, do some reading, do some thinking, do some decision making, do some budgeting and so on; while simultaneously striving to live their religious faith in God, who most probably, being omniscient, notices who does remember the worship part of the doing of religion.
@Diane at Te Deum Laudamus : As much as I dislike “her holiness”, that is a PhotoShopped pic. . . unfortunately.
Everybody remember that His Holiness Benedict XV (della Chiesa, not Ratzinger) called Dante’s Divine Comedy a “fifth gospel”?
Is Sister Nan hoping that the malebolge will let her out of the tar for an hour on Sundays without flogging her?
“Well I don’t think that is the entire Catholic Church.”
Yet she would be among the first to complain if the same statement were made questioning whether she and the leadership of the Democratic Party really speak for “the whole party” or whether Barack Obama and his administration really speak for “the United States.”
Someday you’ll hear Nancy say, “I am an American on some days., but an NWO Globalist on others… in fact 99% of the time I am not American. I support democracy and due process at this hour-long conference, but I’ll be a communist the minute I walk out those doors.” This is just a small preview.
I wish Ms. pelosi qwould relocate to Greece and become a member of their legislature> There they would either throw water in her face or slap her one. This woman is just plain pathetic, probably got her ideas from the “Magisterium of Nuns.” By the way there was a very large protest in Columbus today. A Greek Orthodox priest friend of mine was one of the speakers. Lets hope we all pull together in order to defend our common goals and values.
Nancy needs prayers. I wonder if she has time to read Scripture .
Epistle of St. Jude
14 Now of these Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying: Behold, the Lord cometh with thousands of his saints: 15 To execute judgment upon all and to reprove all the ungodly for all the works of their ungodliness, whereby they have done ungodly: and for all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against God. 16 These are murmurers, full of complaints, walking according to their own desires: and their mouth speaketh proud things, admiring persons, for gain’s sake. 17 But you, my dearly beloved, be mindful of the words which have been spoken before by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ: 18 Who told you that in the last time there should come mockers, walking according to their own desires in ungodlinesses. 19 These are they who separate themselves, sensual men, having not the Spirit.
At least she is consistent…she “does” her church on Sundays. Well she obviously doesn’t do that any better than she does being a member of Congress or did as Speaker of the House. The two later only have ramifications on the entire country which is not nearly as devastating to her as the former which involves her soul.
She does her religion all the time, unfortunately it bears little resemblance to the Catholic faith she claims to belong to.
Father, I am wondering: what is the connection between Canon 915 and that painting, Ecce Homo? (I apologise if it is obvious and I cannot see it.)
“…I do my religion on Sunday in church…”
NO KIDDING!!
Boy, if that hasn’t been painfully obvious for the longest time. Sheesh!
Now, how about if we try considering the Church’s proposals the other 6 days, 23 hours?
Yes, tough to do, but..I’m sure you can do it! You’re a BIG girl now.
OK, trying not to be too absurd here.
By the way, in the video clip she mentions something about how some of the California bishops have mentioned that the lawsuits might be premature. Hate to say this, but she’s not precisely getting her upside-down version of faith from some astrologer.
One of the statements that one of the California bishops made suggests to me that..she has LOTS of help.
Ouch.
“I hate being the devil’s advocate”
I don’t believe you.
When, oh when will she have ‘the book, bell and candle’ thrown at her?
This is another reason why I don’t have TV right now. If I saw her face on the evening news, I would either hit the mute button or hurl something ‘soft’ at the screen!
frjim4321: “. . . because I think that’s what the Speaker was doing.”
Ah, yes, of course, because so many of her public statements have shown similar depth and nuance.
Please.
frjim1234: I like you being the devil’s advocate, but strongly disagree that 99.9 percent of Catholics do not try to apply their faith outside of the Sunday morning church walls. What I detest is not that she tries to apply her faith within the context of her occupation and fails at it, but that she dishonestly” schools” Americans on Catholicism by confidently proclaiming the opposite of Catholic teaching.
Example: Casey, who has probably voted in similar lock step with all of the President’s initiatives, seems to muddle Catholic teaching, stretching and misapplying, but I am not aware of times when he deliberately states untruth as truth. Result? Still wrong, but not a frequent headliner here on the blog.
Once a clockmaker invited a man into his shop and began pointing out clocks.
“I have a clock for every Catholic. Every time one of them disgraces the Church, their clock ticks.”
Moving along the line, he says, “This is St. Therese’s clock. It’s never ticked once.”
“This is Mother Teresa’s clock. It’s never ticked once.”
“This is Nancy Pelosi’s clock. You could use it for a ceiling fan!”
In my last post, I didn’t intend to be mean, but golly!
@Amandil
I’m guessing the connection is that Pilate knew that Jesus was innocent (and said it several times), and he also knew that Jesus was somehow holy and important (though not how much), but in spite of all these things he gave up Jesus because he preferred the approval of the crowd and his position of power. This is exactly what too many Catholic politicians do, and they are the ones to whom Fr. Z wants Canon 915 applied.
When, oh when will she have ‘the book, bell and candle’ thrown at her?
See, if this was done with an iPad, it could all be done with the touch of one button. You press the button, and all the applications close, a logoff sound chimes, and the screen goes blank.
This is another reason why I don’t have TV right now. If I saw her face on the evening news, I would either hit the mute button or hurl something ‘soft’ at the screen!
One of my more practical invention fantasies is a paper projection screen for an old-fashioned projector-type big-screen TV. You could throw a brick through it or hack it up with a machete, and then when you calm down just spool off some more paper.
Am I the only one that caught the improper use of “they’re” in the article?
Fr Jim,
“I do my religion on Sunday morning,” = “I live my faith only on Sunday morning.”
45 minutes in and out, and don’t get in their way in the parking lot if you value your life.
But you’re right about one thing: Yes, a lot of Catholics view it this way. And it’s not all right.
Hi Padraig, yes, another reason to sneer at the article, no? This sort of slaughter of the English language is rife here, where you see signs that say things like “Tomato’s for sale,” meaning I don’t know what. Maybe something that belongs to some particular tomato is for sale? What could possibly belong to a tomato that it would be willing to sell? It’s a tomato.
Nope, I caught that too. :) Bugged me … a lot. Those sorts of mistakes usually do. Heh. :)
I am afraid she reminds me of my in-laws… “We’re Christians. We pay our Church tax.”
They live in Germany and have to pay a tax to the Church to be official members. This applies to both Catholic and Evangelische (Lutheran). My pointing out that it requires a bit more than “paying your Church Tax,” was met with denial and anger.
Is ‘doing church’ like ‘doing lunch’?
Really, she should be embarrassed every time she opens her mouth. And where, oh where, is her Bishop?
And where, oh where, is her Bishop?
Being “pastoral”, of course! That means allowing her to continue in error without repentance or even shame, and also allowing her to mislead gullible souls about the nature of Catholic teaching. What could be more “pastoral” than that?
“Really, she should be embarrassed every time she opens her mouth”
But she isn’t–that is the sad part.
Perhaps it is time for Nancy to retire from Congress so that she has the time to find out what the Church really teaches. Unfortunately, up to this point, it seems that the only thing that is important is the power of her position and what she has to compromise to keep it. That is why she sounds ridiculous.
Yet,there are more than a few people in our churches on Sunday morning who are quite satisfied with their moral and religious behavior. Polls report high percentages of the general population who feel they are clearly on the path to heaven, and few fear the possibility of hell. These people may be well-mannered and respectable and decent in their conduct. But they regard thirsting after God and the holiness of the saints as visionary, high-flown, romantic, perhaps even fantastic, and certainly not required of themselves. Newman wrote of these men and women, “They have a certain definite and clear view of their duties; they think that the summit of perfection is to be decent and respectable in their calling, to enjoy moderately the pleasures of life, to eat and drink, marry and given in marriage, buy and sell, plant and build, and to take care that religion does not engross them.” SEEKING SPIRITUAL DIRECTION, How to Grow in the Divine Life Within, Thomas Dubay, S.M.
Lord have mercy on me, a sinner, but I am moved to point out:
“He that turneth away his ears from hearing the law, his prayer shall be an abomination.” (Proverbs 28:9, Douay-Rheims)
Rep. Pelosi presumably hath ears, and maybe ought to use a Q-Tip once in a while.
Everyone’s jumped on the problem of reducing religion to something done on Sunday morning.
Nobody’s jumped on her open claim that the bishops do not speak for whatever she calls “the Catholic Church”…
And nobody’s noted the contradiction between her claim here that she cannot have her religion influencing her work and her claims elsewhere that her work is the way it is because of her faith’s motivations (e.g. that her faith compells her to end “discrimination” by redefining marriage — that was Nancy Pelosi, wasn’t it?)…
Y’all are slow today. ;^)
@The Cobbler
Well, what you say may be true of today but at 10:29 two days ago I actually did jump on her claim that the bishops do not speak for the Catholic Church.
Ah, so you did… I must’ve not been reading carefully enough at that point in the comment thread. You win the speedy two days before award. And the turtle wax.