I am not making this up: There’s a fun new campaign for women’s ordination!

I promise that I am not making this up. I couldn’t if I tried.

This is a perfect example of self-parody, direct from the pages of the National Schismatic Reporter (aka The Fishwrap).

This is from one of the darlings of the LCWR, the Fishwrap’s very own Jamie Manson. You may recall that she was mentored by Sr. Margaret Farley.

I don’t even have to add any emphases or comments this time.

Women’s ordination movement takes interfaith approach
Jamie Manson

“You’re not alone” isn’t a message members of most prophetic movements are accustomed to hearing. But in the struggle over the ordination of women, a new interfaith collaboration seems to be emerging.
On Monday, women and men from multiple faith traditions will gather in Washington, D.C., and Salt Lake City for a day of prayer called “Equal in Faith: Women Fast for Gender Justice.”

After a day of fasting, participants will gather at St. Stephen and the Incarnation in Washington and at the Salt Lake Buddhist Temple for an interfaith service of prayer for the equal treatment of women in all faith communities.

“While women have access to spiritual authority in a growing number of religions, far too many women are still being denied equal participation and leadership in their faith traditions,” said Erin Saiz Hanna, executive director of the Women’s Ordination Conference, the largest and oldest organization advocating for the ordination of women in the Catholic church. The conference is one of the principal sponsors of the event.

Those who can’t be in either city Monday are still invited to participate through the event’s Facebook page.

“Our supporters can be in solidarity wherever they are,” Hanna said in an interview earlier this week. “They can pray with us and, if they are able, fast.” Messages of encouragement and hope can also be added to the Facebook page.

The use of Facebook in this action is especially appropriate since the interfaith collaboration was initially born out of social media.

Late last year, Women’s Ordination Conference staffers and friends produced and posted to YouTube a humorous music video called “Ordain a Lady” that advocated for the full inclusion of women in the Catholic church. Not surprisingly, the video elicited strong reactions from both supporters and detractors of the women’s ordination movement.

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You can read the rest there.

I did not make that up and it is not from some spoof site. I double-checked.

Just in case you don’t remember that powerful, moving video Jamie mentioned, here it is. If I were a proponent of women’s ordination I would strangle the people who made the video. How embarrassing is this?  You almost feel bad for them.

Another reminder that we live in a fallen world.

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56 Responses to I am not making this up: There’s a fun new campaign for women’s ordination!

  1. thoscole says:

    Wait, that video is supposed to voice support for women’s ordination? It seemed like it mocked that position.

  2. Magpie says:

    This is absolutely hilarious. I have to pinch myself reading these posts Father just to make sure I haven’t lost touch with reality.

  3. Ben Yanke says:

    Agreed, from that video, you’d think they were mocking it.

  4. jhnewman says:

    I remember the first time Fr Z posted this video thinking ‘hahaha I’m living amongst comedy genius, what a delightful parody of the wiminpreest movement’. Then I realised it was real and thought if nothing else has closed the ‘argument’ this sham of shams will. (There is no argument, read Blessed JPII)

    I hope these ladies will one day find their true vocation and the peace that Christ alone gives.

    P.s. Please pray for me anyone as I’m currently discerning for the preisthood.

  5. jhnewman says:

    Priesthood even, been a long week!

  6. akp1 says:

    For goodness sake! Men and women are equal in Christianity! A Catholic priest is different as he is set apart, called to that giving of himself to Christ and through serving in His Church to the rest of us. Not all men can be priests – so it’s not an equal opportunities thing. A Christian doesn’t have to become a priest in order to be a good Christian – each of us has the equal opportunity to love and serve Christ in our daily lives, lead others to Him, and in His mercy reach Heaven one day. These women have been so deluded and led astray, I hope and pray the Lord will open their hearts to the Truth before it’s too late for them.

  7. APX says:

    Ugh, I forgot just how bad that video was. Yes, yes this is crazy.

  8. SimonR says:

    Such a catchy tune though :-)

    It is based on the song, “Call Me Maybe” by Canadian singer-songwriter Carly Rae Jepsen.

    My favourite lyrics are:

    “My call is a fact, but some Pope in a hat,
    Closed discussion on that, and now he’s in my way
    I pray, sing, and feel
    At first communion it’s real
    I but I refuse to kneel,
    To Patriarchy’s way”

    You gotta have patriarchy mentioned of course.

    If you want to read the lyrics of the song (and I’m sure you all do), here you go:

    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Ordain-a-lady-campaign-for-women-to-become-priests-goes-viral–VIDEO-185741642.html

    Take it away Pope Francis “On the ordination of women, the church has spoken and said no”.

  9. Supertradmum says:

    Sad, sad, sad…just to prove that serious sins leads one away from the good, the beautiful and the truth into the crass, the cheap and the nasty. I could only take 34 secs of it.

  10. Angie Mcs says:

    My IPad shut down while I was watching the video. I think I heard a small electronic giggle.

  11. Supertradmum, the first time Fr. Z posted this, I reacted like you, felt I didn’t have 3 minutes to waste on trash like this.

    But how glad I am now that he posted it again. Funniest 3 minutes of my life. Best argument (aside from infallible teaching) against women’s ordination I’ve ever seen.

    So good, I’m going to recommend to all my friends, starting with you. You gotta watch the whole thing! Lighten up and enjoy!

  12. Lisa Graas says:

    Prophetic movement? The “women’s ordination” movement is a feel-good group with plenty of fans to nourish their egos.

    The real prophetic movement is the one emphasizing appropriate identity.

  13. flasharry says:

    And as a aside, looks like the Fishwrsp Folk just got some serious dish thrown at them… Wonder what the real agenda is with the donation?

    http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=18823

  14. TLM says:

    They appear prepared for formal excommunication. They mock St. Paul, the Pope, the teaching of our Lord because they don’t hear what they want to hear. The feminist brainwasing is on display. They need to have the call traced, I don’t think it was God calling.

  15. Joe in Canada says:

    I’m glad they disabled comments at youtube for this. It would have otherwise prompted a moment or two of uncharity. And what’s with the stoles outside the chasubles? Ladies, if you’re gonna be “Catholic womynpriests” at least read the GIRM.

  16. HyacinthClare says:

    I vote with Supertradmum this morning, Henry Edwards. Thirty seconds and the it was just too embarrassing, and I turned it off. It may be an acquired taste but I don’t think I choose to acquire it. I’ll grant you, laughter is probably an excellent defense.

  17. cdet1997 says:

    Question: Does the Church teach that the Holy Spirit does not convey the grace associated with Holy Orders if the recipient is a woman?

    In other words, I understand that when a Bishop performs the rite of Holy Orders on an unmarried Catholic male, the Holy Spirit responds by marking his soul as that of a priest. Does the Holy Spirit not respond at all if the bishop performs the rite on a woman?

  18. slainewe says:

    In other news, the Men’s Fecundity Conference is sponsoring a day of prayer called “Equal in Childbearing: Men Fast for Gender Justice.” ;-)

  19. Supertradmum says:

    cdet1997, for any sacrament to be efficacious, one must be in the state of grace and obedience to begin with. Denying a sacred truth of the Catholic Church, set in place by Christ Himself and re-iterated by John Paul II and Benedict, mean that the person is not only in the grave sin of disobedience against Church teaching, but a heretic, removing themselves from Rome by intention and act. The so-called orders would be “absolutely null and utterly void” as quoted from the bull in the link. Same reason Anglican Orders were declared not only unlawful, but non-existent, as in not there, by Leo XIII. Here…http://www.newadvent.org/library/docs_le13ac.htm

  20. Supertradmum says:

    PS, your question reveals a problem with what I call magical thinking, instead of Catholic thinking. Just because someone puts a hand on someone and declares them a priest, does not make them so.

  21. ClavesCoelorum says:

    Heavens, I’m at a loss for words. I was actually looking forward to Father’s emphases and comments, but one can see the words speak for themselves.

  22. Jeannie_C says:

    They make a mockery of fasting, and in that prove they are not fit subjects for ordination.

  23. IgorFeitosa says:

    How confusing! To know that this video is NOT a piece of art—made by a very smart & funny group of ladies—mocking stupid ideas is really depressing. Let’s pray for them and for the others who tolerate such massively rebutted ideas, guys.

    Thanks for posting it, and keeping this great blog, Father! You’re into my prayers. :-)

  24. StJude says:

    What. Did. I. Just. Watch.

    I’m pretty sure that video may be a sign of the apocalypse.

  25. maryh says:

    @cdet1997
    Question: Does the Church teach that the Holy Spirit does not convey the grace associated with Holy Orders if the recipient is a woman?
    In other words, I understand that when a Bishop performs the rite of Holy Orders on an unmarried Catholic male, the Holy Spirit responds by marking his soul as that of a priest. Does the Holy Spirit not respond at all if the bishop performs the rite on a woman?

    This sounds like a misconception. The Church does not order the Holy Spirit around. The sacraments are gifts to the Church from Christ, that she passes on as she has received. Part of the “matter” for ordination requires the sex of the participant to be male, just as part of the “matter” for the Eucharist involves wheat (not rice) and wine (not milk).

    You might just as well ask if God “responds” to change a wafer and liquid to the body and blood of Our Lord if the wafer is rice and liquid is milk.

  26. Robbie says:

    I watched 14 seconds of the video and stopped. Disgraceful, stupid, and embarrassing.

  27. unavoceman says:

    “I was baptized and this is crazy…” Uh…roger that!

    Actually had some recent tragic news here. I just realized that I haven’t laughed out loud for days…that is until I saw this video. Thank you ladies!

  28. Moro says:

    If I were ordained, I would offer them a blessing using the following words: “Ab illo benedicaris, in cujus honore cremaberis. Amen”

  29. govmatt says:

    I expected to be angry… but, I’m just really sad about it.

    You make fun of being excommunicated and the magisterium of the Church then go on to say “I’m a Catholic.” No, you aren’t.

    It’s funny… they are making a parody of “Call Me Maybe” while making a parody of the Priesthood. Seems right in line. If it weren’t so heretical, it’d be hilarious.

  30. Cathy says:

    Every time I see this, I want to remake it with a bunch of pirates asking to ordain a matey, arrrrrgh. Yep, makes me giggle!

  31. APX says:

    You make fun of being excommunicated and the magisterium of the Church then go on to say “I’m a Catholic.” No, you aren’t.

    Sadly, yes they still are, which makes things much worse. That whole indelible mark that was left on their soul permanently marks them as Catholics. That doesn’t mean they’re faithful Catholics who aren’t excommunicated, but they are still Catholics nevertheless.

  32. Supertradmum says:

    govmatt,

    “One a king and queen in Narnia, always a king and queen in Narnia.” If one is baptized a Catholic, one is a Catholic. One may sin seriously, be a heretic, but the mark of baptism is on all who are validly baptized. Which is why Protestants who are baptized are Catholic until they accept the heretical positions of their denominations. This is why we recognize all Trinitarian baptisms as true. There is only one baptism. And, is one has been raised Catholic, the falling away into heresy or apostasy is a serious, serious sin for these women as they have all the information they need to be good, faithful Catholics. Their sin is, therefore, more grievous.

  33. FloridaJoan says:

    Got less than half-way through the video; if this is for real … so very sad. My heart hurts for Holy Mother Church.
    pax et bonum

  34. FloridaJoan says:

    When I just re-read my comment above , I felt it necessary to say … my heart also hurts for these misguided souls and I pray for them

  35. I wonder how many women priests aspire to saying the Extraordinary Form Mass.

  36. APX says:

    RuralVirologist,

    There is actually a liberal “Catholic” Church that uses the EF (in English) and has nicer worship spaces, etc than we do.

    http://azlcc.org/index.html

  37. Unwilling says:

    I don’t get the problem.

    Low information. Disobedient. Heretical. Counselling all the above.
    Pop u lar!
    Quasi-porn.

    AND she is a “discovery” of “ultra-Christian” Justin Bieber.

    What’s not to like?

    BTW, the music video that goes with the original song (2012 call me maybe) ends with a happy homosexual dénouement.

    Maybe not…

  38. Sissy says:

    I guess all the heretics who can sing well were otherwise occupied when they made this video?

  39. marylise says:

    Supertradmum: Thank you for your excellent point about the Sacrament of Baptism, namely, that all Baptisms are by definition Baptisms into the Catholic Church. They cannot be anything else. It is astounding how few people understand this, despite the Creed (“I believe in one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins”). There is no such thing as a “protestant Baptism,” although there is such a thing as Baptism validly administered by a protestant. How often we hear ridiculous expressions like, “He was baptized into the Lutheran church.” No, he wasn’t. He was baptized into the Catholic Church, even if he does not realize it until the Day of Judgment. As you say, all validly baptized protestants begin as Catholics — whether they like it or not. This is the generosity of Almighty God, insisting on giving them a fighting chance, despite the errors of history. No doubt this truth is neglected because of false ecumenism. True ecumenism would encourage protestants to develop the grace they receive at Baptism instead of reinforcing the errors they subsequently imbibe.

  40. Athelstan says:

    An Episcopalian church and a Buddhist temple?

    Seems about right. Indifferentism seems to be part of the complete package.

  41. GypsyMom says:

    Just finished reading “Why Catholics Can’t sing” by Thomas Day. In one of the last chapters, entitled “Mr. Nice Guy,” he writes of the “enthronement” of the priest and the emphasis on the priest’s personality and “celebrity” in the Novus Ordo, as opposed to the almost anonymity of the priest in the TLM. With the movement for women priests being relatively new, one could wonder if it’s the almost celebrity status of modern priests that these misguided women are really craving, and not a true desire to serve God’s people. Would they have felt the same back when the priest really did seem like a humble, suffering servant instead of the star of the show?

  42. Kathleen10 says:

    Thanks govmatt, Call Me Maybe, I couldn’t place it.
    Cathy, ordain a matey…I like it. At least a matey would be the correct sex. :)

    This is the lamest bit of nothing I can remember seeing. This would send anyone out of the room or make them cringe down into their seats in embarrassment. I would call it corny, but it’s an insult to the word corny. This is perhaps what would appeal to a “mature” member of a feminist group, and absolutely nobody else, certainly not anyone under 50.

  43. steve51b31 says:

    “If wishes were horses, then beggars would ride”.

  44. anna 6 says:

    What do you think those cute Catholic High School girls got for doing that video?
    extra credit?
    detention relief?
    AP credits?
    a trip to Great Adventure?
    felt clogs?

  45. jameeka says:

    according to Breitbart, Fishwrap getting $2.3 million from Conrad Hilton foundation, in honor of this !#%!

  46. eremitaosppe says:

    I love the lyrics… So much ignorance, so much error. Ignore Saint Paul!? And this is why I seek out he TLM communities where every I happen to be.

  47. Matthew says:

    I feel sad for those young women in the video. They have been convinced that they are somehow second class by some rabble rouser when nothing could be further from the truth.

    I pray for them.

  48. Cathy says:

    GypsyMom, I think your comment has some insight. In a blessed era, consecrated women religious had a very specific witness to the world in the habits that they wore. Sometimes, I honestly think the real reason they now push for so-called womyns ordination, is simply their sense of loss in discarding their habits. Instead of restoring the habit, they simply want to take upon themselves the dress of the priest. Unfortunately, restoring the habit is the admission that something went wrong within their orders in the first place. It seems that instead of restoration, all they can do is strike out in envy.

  49. Salvelinus says:

    This might be a dumb question. How is The National Catholic Reporter allowed to keep the word Catholic, while Michael Voris was STRONGARMED to change Real Catholic TV to remove the word Catholic???? The latter is Catholic while the former is schism

  50. GAK says:

    BREVIOR SALTARE CUM DEFORMIBUS VIRIS EST VITA.

    Or women, as it were. But since there’s no difference between the sexes, why bother to tweak the insult.

  51. Gail F says:

    Why is it any religion’s business how other religions are run? Why should Buddhists care what Catholics think, and vice versa? This is just feminism pretending to be religious.

  52. Alaina says:

    My first impression was: “Wow. I think I lost brain cells watching that.” But when I had the chance to forcibly digest this video, I realized something. The choice of song (the majority of girls in elementary school sadly know all the words to the original version), dance routine, the age of the “back-up girls”, the fact that their young age is emphasized by the school uniforms, all indicates that this wasn’t just a humorous push for their cause. Their approach is not going to be to change anyone’s mind, but rather to lure and brainwash the minds of our young girls, and children as a whole. Look at the woman holding her baby with the “Mom for Pope” t-shirt. And it’s all done with the cutesy, fun sense of humor. Its same way you get kids who are not even interested in sports cheering and dancing at school pep rallies. I’ll gladly take the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist on this one.

  53. idelsan says:

    I am a priest. And my first impression when watching that video, it’s that those women do not know AT ALL, what being a priest is about.

  54. idelsan: D’ya think?

  55. Sonshine135 says:

    Brought to you by the LCWR, because it’s not fun just being a nun!

  56. maryh says:

    @Matthew They have been convinced that they are somehow second class
    Exactly. When I was a teenager, I briefly thought of being a priest. Why not a nun? Because becoming a nun was the inferior option created as a consolation prize for women because they couldn’t be priests. Just as women became nurses because they couldn’t become doctors, and stay-at-home moms because they couldn’t do anything else. There was no real sense in my mind that there was such a thing as a woman’s role that was specifically related to being a woman, as opposed to being the inferior version of a man’s role, which was never just the role fitted to a man because he was a man, but the actual best version of something.

    Of course, there are also social definitions of what men and women should do, some of which are totally unrelated to manhood and womanhood per se. Those are the kinds of things that gender activists hit upon to overgeneralize that all sex-related roles are simply arbitrary and changeable social constructs.