While I am pondering the subject, here is a super informal poll:
How do you pronounce “coadjutor”?
Do you say A) “coádjutor” or B) "coadjútor"?
I say B) "coadjútor".
You?
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Well, Traupman’s New College Latin & English Dictionary lists adjÅ«tor, -Ã…Âris. Since the penult is long by nature, the accent must fall on that syllable. So in Latin, it should be coadjútor.
All that said, I have to admit that in English, I do say coádjutor. :)
I don’t know about all these rules – the short and the long syllables – it’s kind of like which is first the egg or a chicken:
how do you know if the syllable is accented?: because it is long.
how do you know if it is long?: because it is accented.
Excuuuse meeeeee! I never understood that. I know that some people draw little lines and hooks and dots all over the place, and it’s supposed to work very neatly, but it’s a mystery to me. I’ll go with the “coadjuuuutor” but if someone said “coaaaadjutor” I woudn’t be highly offended. I might just think that he’s from the west side of town.
I say coADjutor. Or if he being particularly feisty co-agitator.
And actually, I was raised on the west side of Saginaw.
oops – that should have been “if he’s being…”
I guess I’m letting my west side roots show too much :)
I say coADjutor also – and I was rasied east side of Saginaw (Pennsylvania)
I always accent the antepenult; this seems in keeping with the tendency of English words to have recessive accents. I don’t think we should allow the rules of Latin pronunciation to over-influence how we pronounce English words, even if they are derived from Latin ones. That would be slavish.
Father,
The former. Infact, I’ve not heard the latter.
James Daly
I say “coádjutor†in English, “coadjútor” in Latin. Just as I say aa-men in English, Ah-men in Latin.
We had a coadJUtor, but then the bishop decided he didn’t want to listen to
Rome and retire early.
The coadJUtor and the bishop did not like each other. The coadJUtor is now
gone … thankfully. Wouldn’t have been a very good successor.
I think it depends on whether he has the right of suk-SESSION or the right of SUX-ession.
But these accents shift around over time. I mean, look at Uranus. Or not.
Henry Edwards:
You really say AY-men?
Geez. Well, at least I think we should say AH-men when we sing that Gospel hymn at Catholic Mass. Just, you know, to tone things up a bit. ;-)
I sometimes say AY-men in English, but I sing or say in Latin, Ah-men.
Isn’t it the real McCoy no matter how one pronounces it?
This talk about Saginaw and the real mccoy is confusing, but my pate’s been bald
for a long time, so I really don’t know what’s going on. One
question I do have is whether a vicar can ever become a pastoral person.
So Tim, you’re talking Saginaw, as in… Saginaw near Detroit?