WSJ: Speaker Pelosi’s (D-CA) “loopy” ideas

The WSJ makes my point.

As I wrote before:

The Social Security system will probably collapse because, as the population ages, not enough people pay into it to support those who will draw from it. 

How many abortions have there been since Roe v Wade?  

How’s that for a strain on the nation’s budget?

The United States will one day probably be involved again is a serious conflict, which will truly have to engage the whole populace.

How many abortions have there been since Roe v Wade?  

Who will bear arms and be productive when the crunch comes?

Explain to me again how thwarting God’s will results in blessings for individuals, families, communities and nations?

Sometimes the way these pols speak, when talking off the cuff, truly reveals their mindset.  Remember the "I don’t want my daughter punished with a baby" comment?  Perhaps Speaker Pelosi’s comments above reveal something of the same mindset.

Now this from the WSJ:

Speaker Nancy Malthus [Like Darwin, Malthus provided mortar for the foundation of eugenics and genocide.]
Pelosi should abstain from social engineering.

One of the more curious items in the $825 billion House "stimulus" is $87 billion to help states with Medicaid, specifically including an expansion of family-planning services. The implication is that more people mean less economic growth.

Following a White House meeting with President Obama on Friday, Republican John Boehner, the House Minority Leader, asked how spending millions of dollars on birth control will help stimulate the economy. On Sunday, George Stephanopoulos of ABC’s "This Week" repeated the question to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who responded that "family planning services reduce costs."

She added: "The states are in terrible fiscal budget crises now, and part of what we do for children’s health, education and some of those elements are to help states meet their financial needs. One of those — one of the initiatives you mentioned, the contraception — will reduce costs to the states and to the federal government." 

The notion that a larger population will produce a lower standard of living can be traced to the 18th-century economist Thomas Malthus. But during Malthus’s own lifetime, his prediction was proved false, as he later acknowledged. Population and living standards rose simultaneously, and have continued to do so. [This from the woman who argued that the Church isn’t clear about abortion or when human life begins.  Archbishop Niederauer… where are you?]

Ms. Pelosi’s remarks ignore the importance of human capital, which is the ultimate resource. Fewer babies would move the U.S. in the demographic direction of Europe and Asia. On the Continent, birth rates already are effectively zero, and economists are predicting labor shortages in the years ahead. In Japan, where the population is aging very fast, workers are now encouraged to go home early to procreate. Japan is projected to lose 21% of its population by 2050.

The age and growth rate of a nation help determine its economic prosperity. A smaller workforce can result in less overall economic output. Without enough younger workers to replace retirees, health and pension costs can become debilitating. And when domestic markets shrink, so does capital investment. Whatever one’s views on taxpayer subsidies for contraception, as economic stimulus the idea is loopy



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  1. DavidJ says:

    “Archbishop Niederauer… where are you?”

    I’d like an answer to that as well!

  2. Allena says:

    I heard her explanation and all I could do was make horking noises and gasp and sputter.

    I’m glad people are not so stupid to believe her nonsensical gibberish.

  3. Padre Steve says:

    Very sad. This money should be returned to the American taxpayer. If they gave all that stimulus money directly to its rightful owners there would be real economic growth! Nancy Pelosi and all the other “catholics” in congress should do a real examination of themselves and go to confession!

  4. mrsmontoya says:

    Where is the Church when this woman claimes to be Catholic? Why can’t we just have a nice, straightforward announcement that “Nancy Pelosi is not Catholic”? The continued lack of any disavowal of her is an incredible source of disheartenment to those of us trying to be true members of the Church. If she can continue her claims while acting thus, what’s the point of trying to live with integrity?

    Seriously, is there anything WE can do?

  5. TJM says:

    I think the time has long past for Archbishop Niederauer to step up to the plate and deal, in a very public way, with this
    apostate. If he can’t then someone with authority over him should. I recall thatJohn Paul II in response to certain American bishops worrying that being strident on the abortion issue might cause the feds to strip the American Church of its tax exempt status, replied in so many words, “well, maybe you’ll just have to live without it.” Amen. Tom

  6. TomB says:

    “…The inheritance of the Lord are children; the reward, the fruit of the womb.
    As arrows in the hand of the mighty, so the children of them that have been shaken.
    Blessed is the man that hath filled his desire with them: he shall not be confounded when he shall speak to his enemies in the gate.” Ps 126 3-5

  7. Nick says:

    Remember the “I don’t want my daughter with a baby” comment?

    I think you mis-typed. The phrase was: “I don’t want to punish her [the daughter] with a baby.”

  8. Mitch says:

    Senility maybe??? She’s lost…….

  9. Scott W. says:

    And this is why I am always quick to jump on someone who wishes something bad to happen to Obama to repent. There is the moral admonishment not to wish evil on anyone, but then there is also the matter that if Obama is out, Biden leads. Eew. And after Biden, Pelosi leads. Double eew.

  10. ckdexterhaven says:

    This is the supreme frustration for me. In my parish, my priest hasn’t said one single word for the last 6 months about any of this. After careful (I think) reflection, I can’t understand how any priest could ignore what has happened. We have Catholics in high places purposely misrepresenting Catholic teaching. (Pelosi,Kerry,Biden, Kennedy). It’s common knowledge that 50% of Catholics voted for Obama. It seems that all priests should be guiding, instructing their flocks in order to save their souls. I can’t help but wonder if this is purposeful on my priest’s part. If you’re a social justice type, wouldn’t it make you suspicious that Obama’s first EO wasn’t to feed the hungry,clothe the naked, it was to kill more babies?

  11. Bailey Walker says:

    Ms. Pelosi seems to have stepped out of the pages of “That Hideous Strength.” She will do much damage in the short run. However, she will not prevail in the long.

    The sad, sad thing is that somehow Ms. Pelosi and those like her are convinced that they are somehow advancing not only a just cause but a merciful one. The worst evil is that which masquerades as good. We must redouble our prayer, fasting and alms-giving.

  12. Clinton says:

    It’s been almost five months since the “ardent, practicing Catholic” Ms. Pelosi promised to meet with Bp. Niederauer
    to talk about her stance on abortion. At the time, I recall Madam Speaker said she was eager for the meeting, which
    would happen the first chance she got…

    What’s the Latin equivalent of “she’s blown him off”?

  13. mysticalrose says:

    Not loopy, Fr. Z — dangerous and scary.

  14. mysticalrose: I guess you can draw your own conclusions about that. Let’s start with loopy and see where loopy leads.

    Usually nowhere good.

  15. It would seem that Ms. Pelosi needs another trip to the woodshed. What say you Bishop Niederauer? Does she understand the meaning of obedience?

  16. therapydoc says:

    She’s been a real disappointment. So promising at first.

  17. Ed says:

    Does anyone know if the Archbishop of San Francisco continues to refuse to do his duty, can the faithful step around him and go directly to ecclesiastic courts with heresy or other charges?

  18. Edward Martin says:

    Our provincial government took a very different view of things. With an aging population the government decided to bonus a $1,000 for every baby born. Not sure how much of an effect it has had, it was only introduced last year.

  19. Brian says:

    Bishop Niederauer’s failure to deny Communion to this Treasury Secretary for the Culture of Death is inexplicable.

  20. jo says:

    With a “loopy” speaker, and us in Illinois with a “cuckoo” governor, I’m wondering if we’d be better off with the Three Stooges running the government. Actually, yes!

  21. Son of Trypho says:

    What I find also lamentable about these remarks is the cynical utilisation of the economic crisis to attempt to legitimise such an stance.

    I hope, for US citizens, that this isn’t the beginning of a trend where the economic crisis is invoked to pass any excess.

  22. Rancher says:

    Perhaps if every reader of this blog flooded the SF Archbishop’s mailbox he might (maybe) be moved to do something. Oh, BTW the Archdiocese website only provides a general (“info”) e-mail address not a specific one for the ABp.

  23. Jane M says:

    Edward Martin,

    I’ve heard of many places that tried paying women to have children when birthrates had become alarming. I’ve never heard of one where it worked. Once you convince men that they don’t have to support children and women that they don’t have to bear them — it’s hard to go back.

    Only love for children will change this. And that comes only from the Author of Love.

  24. Mary Ann, Singing Mum says:

    Loopy. And INSULTING. Putting contraception into a stimulus package translates as, ‘our society can only thrive when you people stop having babies’. So, let’s not tighten our governmental belt- put the blame back on the people having children.

  25. Jane says:

    Pelosi needs to be excommunicated by her bishop. Is he a shepherd or a boneless chicken? This is the same man who had no problem giving Communion to a transvestite “nun.” I guess I answered my own question.

    Lord, grant us holy and courageous bishops…and hurry!

  26. Kelly says:

    “One of those—one of the initiatives you mentioned, the contraception—will reduce costs to the states and to the federal government.”

    The same generation that uses this argument to justify contraception (and also abortion) will be the first to be “euthanized” using the same argument.

    I wonder if the Speaker would get a Catholic burial in San Francisco?

  27. mwa says:

    take a gander at her press statement on the repeal of the Mexico City Policy, too:

  28. Weird split – Obama urges Democrats to dump family planning from stimulus

    WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama is urging congressional Democrats to drop a proposal to spend money on family planning from the proposed $825 billion package to stimulate the economy, a symbolic gesture that could help him make inroads into Republican ranks.

    So is he seeking to abort more abroad and to save money by not paying for more family planning at home?

    This president is simply incomprehensible if he’s doing this purely as a “symbolic gesture” for Republicans!

    Even the linked story sees it as a good cop/bad cop act for Obama and Pelosi to round up Republicans.

  29. Willebrord says:

    In response to Kelly, I wonder, just how Catholic would a Catholic funeral actually be in San Francisco?

    Just asking…

  30. According to the Aux Bishop of San Fran, he (the Archbishop of SF) is in Vietnam on a retreat.

  31. Forrest says:

    Is there ever a reason to excommunicate a person than this? Her position and ability to scandalize the faith is unprecedented…noboday listens to Joe Biden, so his blatherings are regarded as coming from the crazy uncle upstairs. Oh wait, maybe this is the crazy aunt…

  32. Incidentally, when is the social justice/civil rights crowd going to wake up to the inherent racism of the abortion/eugenics/birth control movement? It’s always targeted minorities. Margaret Sanger, for example, referred to black people as “human weeds.” And here we are, trying to export the culture of death to Third World countries. When the Population Bomb people talk about too many people, I think what they really mean is: just enough of us, way too many of you.

  33. ioannes says:

    I wrote to Archbishop Niederauer and received a response back from his office that he is in Vietnam leading a delegation to meet with the Vietnamese Bishops. This is confirmed from a news story in the Press. I was assured my concerns would be brought to his attention when he returns.

  34. David says:

    There are some Obama supporters running around chanting “Jes, Weaken”. I am only assume that “jes” refers to “Jesus”.

  35. Ann says:

    My prayer for the Bishops is that they grow in courage. I think they just need more help, more grace and more of our prayers to begin to step up and take action. It would be a beautiful thing to see the Bishops with courage to speak out and teach without compromise or apology Church teaching in its beauty and wonder.

    The secular and religious priests need our prayers too. They will mostly follow the leadership of the Bishop or of their orders. But even more than the Bishops, they will need courage because the anger of spoiled children who don’t like the spiritual medicine from the pulpits will be terrible for them. They are gentle hearts or they would not have wanted to serve as priests. I think sometimes we forget that.

    We need to pray for the religious orders to return to their charisms and to an orthodox understanding of their role in the Church. The orders were like generators in the Church, powering it up spiritually with prayer. The orders have had bad fuel for some time, and yet there are bright spots, evidences of a new awakening, a new movement of the Spirit. We need to pray for the orders.

    And we need to criticize ourselves first. Take a hard look at the many failings we as an individual Catholic have–and pray for the ordinary laity to begin to wake up, see themselves in a spiritual light and make the many changes that are needed–beginning with the conversion within our own lives and families. What if Catholics, even just the ones who make it to Mass each Sunday, began living Catholicism in all aspects of their lives? Even just that many would be a fabulous revival. But I bet that if the families began to live Catholicism with humility and transparency and the young people saw the lack of hypocrisy–what if the youth caught fire too?

    the darker it is now, the more the Spirit is ready to move as soon as Christians wake up, return to unity and proper practice of the Faith, and to prayer. How our country got here is much less important than what we will do about it.

    Jesus prayed a lot.

  36. ssoldie says:

    I for one hope and pray this is the beginning of her downfall in her political career.

  37. Eric says:

    Fr. Z,

    Good post except for the comment about Darwin. Darwin performed valid scientific work. The fact that others used it for eugenics and genocide is not Darwin’s fault. Darwin provided new information about God’s creation – regardless of his personal struggles.

  38. John 6:54 says:

    When “catholic” politicians are continually allowed to make comments like this that are in direct opposition to the Catholic faith our Bishops allow their God given authority to be usurped by obvious ignorance. Bishop Niederauer needs to sack-up and do something or remove himself from the situation. His authority does no good if its not used when it should be. Pelosi said she would meet with him prior to the election. Its obviously she either has no intention to do so or its priority is we’ll behind everything on the list.

    In addition to Niederauer where are his brother bishops? If I’m screwing up my brother steps in to correct me and I do the same for him. Collegiality needs to be thrown out in these instances. Nancy Pelosi is the Speaker of the House, her comments and ignorance plays across this country, just because she resides in San Francisco a few days out of the year doesn’t mean her lack of understanding the Catholic faith doesn’t affect all of us.

  39. bernadette says:

    How long are our bishops going to allow Pelosi and other Catholic politicians to thumb their noses at the Church and create enormous scandal?

  40. irishgirl says:

    Whenever I see Pelosi’s ‘puss’ on TV, I just want to slap her silly!

    Archbishop of San Francisco, where are you? Be like St. Thomas Becket and excommunicate her! What’s taking you so long?

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