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Meatless Mondays. What idiocy. I am a hypoglycemic, and frustrated at the no-fat campaign (fat is a moderator for the pancreas). I also need protein, daily, to be mentally functional. Vegan alternates need not apply.
And yes, folks, I have tried tofu. A lot. My wife is Chinese. ;) Not the same. NOT.
…and I firmly believe that the chief cause of dietary issues in our culture is the result of adulterating all of the foods given us by God in perfect form.
To your two pictures, Father Z, yes, please!
Chicken tenders combo meal, Chick-Fil-A: $7.53
Supporting religious freedom and striking a small blow against mob hate: Priceless
I’ve been having a bad day and the picture of the nuns made me smile. Thanks!
wmeyer,
Couldn’t agree more, I’ve seen the numbers on a body that gets carbs without fat and protein, it’s not normally good for your body at all. And regarding adulterated foods and tofu, have you seen the difference between how soy is eaten in other nations and how it is used here? It’s like a whole other substance.
Can’t imagine being a rancher and waking up one day to find the main government agency in charge of regulating my livelihood is actually actively campaigning to get people to buy 1/7 th less of my product!
I see no reason that a meatless Monday should be a higher form of idiocy than a meatless Friday.
Awesome pictures – and the cartoon is spot on. We went this morning with the anticipation that lunch would be a zoo, and we were right. Drove by two CFAs this afternoon and was thrilled to see them doing a booming business.
Random Friar, your post made my day. Priceless, indeed.
I tried to eat at Chick-fil-a, but couldn’t get onto the property, they were that packed. Later, I was listening to local news radio and they were doing Chick-fil-a updates with the traffic alerts … lol
No CFA for 161 miles….:(
I like how you’re using the word, “Spiffy” a lot. That’s a great word! God bless Father.
We did our part to support Chick-fil-A and the freedom to affirm one’s faith by going there for dinner tonight. It was packed. I’ve been fond of these folks ever since they opened a restaurant near us and I learned that they are closed on Sundays. Love the photo of the nuns!
We went at 1:30 thinking that the crowds would have thinned out. Not. We had to park in an adjacent lot and the lines were out both doors. There were 2 police cars of cops directing traffic. The young lady who took our order said it had pretty much been that way since 8am. Nice. I hope it has some positive influence in the long run.
Oh wow, real nuns. Actual ones – Brides of Christ.
The LCWR must be passed out on the floor from seeing such a display of docility towards evil male patriarchal control freaks, or whatever it is they go on about.
Go sisters, go! :)
PostCatholic, the idiocy in Meatless Mondays isn’t in having a meatless day. It consists in people rejecting Catholicism, then finding that aspects of it were actually useful or helpful or practical or something, then trying to reintroduce them under some ideological reason. Meatless Fridays were part of an ancient weekly commemoration of the Passion and Resurrection of Christ. Like all the fasting regimes of the Church, they were also good for you. Meatless Mondays are a half-baked attempt at reconstructing the social order. They might also be good for you, but it’s more important for the ideologues that they think they’re putting a stick in the eye of the Church. Hence the idiocy.
From the parking lot of a Chick-Fil-A in San Antonio: this place is packed. I’m here with about fourteen other Sailors and three Airmen. Food was good. I came here more because I’m sick of the mob mentality hatred you get from so many people on the Left any time you dare to voice an unfashionable opinion than anything else. I’ll gladly support any business whose owners stand by solid biblical principles at the risk of alienating consumers. If only more Christians, Catholic and Protestant alike, had that kind of courage.
Great photo, by the way.
theidler: The LCWR must be passed out…
The LCWR members are too busy undermining the hierarchy of the Church to uphold her moral teachings.
They remind me of the nuns in The Sound of Music who took parts out of the Nazis’ cars. Love it!
The nuns are Poor Clares of Perpetual Adoration residing in San Antonio near Our Lady of the Atonement parish where they attend the Anglican Use Mass. I believe all five were sent there from the Mother House in Birmingham to establish a foundation there due to all five being converts. The nun on the right was a parishioner there before joining Mother Angelica’s monastery, never expecting that one day she would be sent back to her former parish.
Fr.Z: “The LCWR members are too busy undermining the hierarchy of the Church to uphold her moral teachings.”
I agree. I wish it wasn’t true, but alas. Maybe they’re fueling up their big woodstock bus, haha.
VW micro-buses, more like.
Meatless Mondays?!! Sorry, Obama. Monday is spaghetti night at our house. Spaghetti with lots and lots of grass-fed beef meatballs! What’s wrong with meatless Fridays, by the way?
We waited too long! Our local CFA closed at 6:00 p.m., completely sold out. One for the good guys!! We’ll go tomorrow. Or Saturday.
Yep the little Marxist’s “meatless Mondays” went over real well here in Baker County Oregon where cows (Black Angus and Herefords in particular) outnumber people at least 20 to 1. One local rancher posted a sign at the entrance to his ranch. “Meatless Mondays? Try Obamaless government, it’s healthier”.
Made a CFA run for lunch: FAIL. There were literally traffic problems everywhere around the place. I had better luck at dinner. After 40 minutes of camaraderie with everyone else in line, I (finally) enjoyed my nuggets with the kiddos!
We do the vegan thing due to my husband’s diabetes (and yes, it really works), but at work our whole dept ordered in CFA today and I enjoyed fries and lemonade. There is a time and place for fast food and today was it!
Was nowhere near the Chick-fil-A here today . . . have no idea what their attendance was but imagine if there was anything out of the ordinary it will be in the paper tomorrow. Don’t know if homophobia is a big draw in this part of the country.
The ideology of a small and regular elimination of saturated fats makes very sound dietary sense. Meatless Monday has a nice alliterative quality to it but if you prefer to move the observance to Friday instead or in addition, that’s good too. If you want to have a theological basis in addition to the nutritional one for the observance, all to the good, but a secular state can hardly promote that basis or the excellency of one religious observance over another.
frjim4321 said: “Don’t know if homophobia is a big draw in this part of the country.”
People who love the First Amendment and yummy chicken sandwiches are afraid of homosexuals? I don’t see the connection.
“Don’t be Gay, Try Chick-fil-A”
See, that’s another thing I don’t get. First amendment? Is anyone disputing that Mr. Cathy didn’t have the freedom to say what he thought? Seems to me what he didn’t have was the freedom from the consequences of saying what he thought, and judging by the women in the wimples (almost said hijab) above, even those consequences weren’t terrible for him.
Yes, PostCatholic. Several politicians claimed that his religious/political views were grounds for his franchisees not receiving business permits. Their claims were withdrawn after civil rights attorneys alerted them to their exposure to lawsuits. But, yes. Those claims were made publicly, which has a chilling effect.
To further clarify, PostCatholic, if ordinary citizens had proposed a boycott, there would be no problem. But government may not punish religious/political speech. That’s the difference.
frjim4321 says:
Don’t know if homophobia is a big draw in this part of the country.
Use of the word “homophobia” is tantamount to attaching a vacuum pump to a hole in the head and sucking out the brains.
robtbrown: homophobia is “fear of humans”, right? As in, “The deer in the forest suffer from homophobia.” I still don’t know what that has to do with chicken sandwiches, though.
Sissy
” still don’t know what that has to do with chicken sandwiches, though”
Neither does frjim4321. He’s a pot stirer but this time there’s a chicken in the pot :)
Based on the news reports, it looks like Chick-fil-A had a very profitable day. Thank you CNN and MSNBC for the derogatory publicity.
Frjim4321,
With all due respect to the dignity of your office…what? [Some women religious display an easily recognizable Catholic identity in public and they, even in small ways, give witness to good morals.] If the president of Chick-Fil-A had said that he hates homosexuals, or that his restaurants will refuse to serve them, or something of that nature, that would be homophobic and I would refuse to patronize his business. He said he’s opposed to gay marriage (a point of view which I might reasonably expect a priest to endorse), and a lot of people are going to Chick-Fil-A today to show their solidarity with him and against the ridiculous reaction his comments have drawn from certain segments of the population. I don’t see the homophobia there.
I went to the Chick-fil-A near my hometown this afternoon, and they were doing a thriving business! Their parking lot was full, the drive-through lane was lined up onto and down the street, and the line for the counter ran out the door. I had to park in a different lot and walk to the restaurant, but I got in and gave them my money!
They also had an 18-wheeler deliver more food while I was there!
A friend of mine who lives about 30 miles away said the scene was the same at her local Chick-fil-A.
I have seen a couple of news reports that said the pro-gay activists are planning to hold “Same-Sex Kiss-Ins” at Chick-fil-A restaurants on Friday, 03 August. Chick-fil-A doesn’t have much on their menu that is meatless, but if it looks like they are going to be subjected to the antics of activists on Friday, my friend and I are planning to go out and buy more Chick-fil-A – and wear our Vatican-themed T-shirts too! (My friend and I aren’t vegetarians; we just observe meatless Fridays.)
Sissy says:
Yes, PostCatholic. Several politicians claimed that his religious/political views were grounds for his franchisees not receiving business permits. Their claims were withdrawn after civil rights attorneys alerted them to their exposure to lawsuits. But, yes. Those claims were made publicly, which has a chilling effect.
I read an article in which the Chicago mayor said that Chick Fil A is out of sync with Chicagoan values. Later in the article a Chicago alderman supporting the major said that they were not likely to let the chain have another store because of the traffic problems created at other Chick Fil A’s in the city.
To summarize: These same Chicagoans who object to the chain are lined up trying to buy chicken sandwiches.
Sort of like Yogi Berra: No one goes there anymore–it’s too crowded.
I’m thinking there might be a homily in this for the weekend.
If saying what I think is “stirring the pot,” so be it. [A Chick-fil-A in every pot? Mr. Bluebird’s on your shoulder.]
Today’s demonstration was little more than on orgy of self-righteousness, the rich man thanking God that he is not like the rest of people while turning up his nose at the widow’s mite.
I think if Jesus of Nazareth had shown up at a Chick-fil-a today he may well have bent down, started writing on the ground, and reminding people not to throw the first stone.
I hope none of those holy dogooders didn’t hurt themselves patting themselves on the back.
[Yah… sure. Jesus would have undermined true marriage. Uh huh. On your planet, those who support morals are somewhat suspect and those who undermine them get a pass?]
…*shaking my head*…
frjim4321 says: “I think if Jesus of Nazareth had shown up at a Chick-fil-a today he may well have bent down, started writing on the ground, and reminding people not to throw the first stone.”
I think that if Jesus had shown up at a Chic-fil-a, all the people who had to go home when Chic-fil-a ran out of food would have had Southern Chicken Sandwiches to their fill and there would have been 12 baskets left over.
[touché]
Both meateaters and eaters of most plants have to support reproduction by males and females, if they wish to continue eating. All other foods happen by asexual reproduction; so obviously growth and virginity should be supported by such folks.
I don’t think there are any foods at all which are produced by same sex reproduction, for some reason; but no doubt the gay marriage lobby will enjoy supporting restaurants serving those foods.
EXCHIEF says:
One local rancher posted a sign at the entrance to his ranch. “Meatless Mondays? Try Obamaless government, it’s healthier”.
Thanks for the anecdote! It made my day! I will make sure it gets plenty of traffic
in my neighborhood.
frjim – you are trying way too hard to be “prophetic”, or “hip”?, or “sophisticated”?,
or maybe you think you are the only person to whom God has spoken to in the past year.
By the way – what is a dog-ooder:?
Why does “PostCatholic” show up on a Catholic site? He is tiresome, condescending, and rude. Is FrJim a real priest? Please tell me he is not. [Settle down.]
Frjim–All Mr. Cathy said was that he supported traditional marriage. That is not a hateful comment. As you well know–the sacrament of marriage in the Church is and always has been between a man and a woman for obvious reasons. People -by supporting Chick fil A – are saying that as an American he has every right to express his religious beliefs and not be told by politicians that he cannot open a business in a city. Are you saying that he does not have that right?
It has nothing to do with disliking anyone who is homosexual although the gay lobby would like to portray it as that.
Are you a supporter of SSM?
Since the nearest Chick Fil A to me is nearly 100 miles away I wasn’t able to participate in this, but I sure would have liked to. People who participated and blogged about it (including some who identified as gay or as supporters of gay marriage) said repeatedly that this was NOT about “gay marriage” per se, it was about standing up to “thought police” who attempt to punish businesses not for anything unethical they do but merely for the opinions of the owner.
I have a suspicion that those CFA lines are indicative of the lines in November that will rid us of the current regime.
Jim Blue, Do you think the Catholic Church should permit homosexual “marriages”?
It occurs to me in reading all the interesting comments how many things with the word “sex” are not sex at all. Sex is by nature is procreation. Thus, homosexuality is not sex. Nor can it ever be sex. By the same token, a sex change does not change the sex of the person changed. Sadly, it changes the person, but only superficially even if inside. If the sexual organs are undone, the sex change leaves the person incapable of children. Equally, there can be no natural, or even logical, same-sex marriage, since neither partner can ever contribute what the other needs for procreation. The two are disunited from the start by a brute fact of nature. SSM (what an acronym!) not only has no natural sex as procreation but always leaves out one sex, which means that adopted children (or children in which one partner contributes something by donating sperm or becoming impregnated) always miss one or the other sex–where both are necessary for our well-being. It is also therefore either misogynistic or misanthropic, radically so. It enshrines both biases in hearth and home. Whatever else happens in a SSM, it is not sex.
“Whatever else happens in a SSM, it is not sex.”
Correct Horatius – it is lust:
“Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes.” (CCC 2351)
MSM
Always glad to think along with the mind of the Church, MSM: special thanks for that quotation!
Wmeyer, I’m like you, need significant protein and some fat every day to feel at my best.
I’ve tried to learn to like tofu, and, thus far, have not succeeded. Right now, I’m staying clear of it.
I have observed meatless Fridays for some years. I have to admit some of the meatless dishes I eat on Fridays on which fall anniversaries or birthdays or other special occasions, aren’t very penitential: grilled scallops and shrimp over fettucine from the Outback Steakhouse; Indian dishes (whose names I can’t spell) like alu chole and paneer(?) which are rich, savory and spicy stews of lentils, potatoes, spinach served over rice, which have lots of protein; eggplant parmesan over spaghetti; Zatarain’s New Orleans-style beans and rice, which is complete protein, and very spicy, savory, and when served over chopped, steamed spinach and topped with shredded cheddar cheese, is as filling as a steak. Also grilled cheese sandwiches, tuna sandwiches, and scrambled egg and cheddar sandwiches are great for breakfast or lunch, too.
Lots of protein, vitamins, iron (esp. with lightly cooked spinach) and fills you right up and sticks to your ribs.
Good luck and good health!
frjim4321 says:
Today’s demonstration was little more than on orgy of self-righteousness, the rich man thanking God that he is not like the rest of people while turning up his nose at the widow’s mite.
You have it backwards. The people who showed up to support the restaurant are the ones compared to the widow. They are saying: “We can’t offer much to support the nature of marriage, but we can offer ourselves present at Chick Fil A.” It is much like the Anatole France story Le Jongleur de Notre Dame.
I think if Jesus of Nazareth had shown up at a Chick-fil-a today he may well have bent down, started writing on the ground, and reminding people not to throw the first stone.
More likely, he would have said to homosexuals: “Go and sin no more”
You make the common liberal mistake of confusing tolerance with mercy. Mercy is in a way the perfection of justice, not its contrary.
I hope none of those holy dogooders didn’t hurt themselves patting themselves on the back
What have we here? A liberal resorting to a personal attack, an approach commonly used during the years you attended seminary.
Same ol’ same ol’.
“Zatarain’s New Orleans-style beans and rice,” . . . good stuff! When it’s not a Friday, I like to add some sausage.
robtbrown: I always enjoy and learn from your commentary.
wmeyer says:
“…and I firmly believe that the chief cause of dietary issues in our culture is the result of adulterating all of the foods given us by God in perfect form”
Exactly!
Jesus Christ never condoned sin and homosexual marriage is sin. Period.
We went at 9 am. There was a brisk business and when we left there were long lines & a full parking lot. Went back at 8:30 pm & the drive thru line was over 1/4 mile long. In the morning I was impressed by the young families with happy well behaved children enjoying their breakfast-hope for the future.
My friend said where her family of 10 went a10 year old was explaining to a protestor what love real is!
I don’t usually get involved in any kind of “culture wars” political activism, preferring to keep my peace while everyone else argues about the best way to ruin the country, but I nearly ate at Chick-fil-A yesterday (and would have if it wouldn’t have taken me a two hours’ wait). I’m less concerned about the gay marriage debate than most – I don’t really think that any country in which serial monogamy, “open” marriages, tube-tying and vasectomies, etc., are all normative behaviors can consider itself “pro-marriage” in any meaningful sense – but I’m very very concerned with the idea of government officials using licensing and permit regulations to punish people for their religious and political beliefs.
If conservative jurisdictions had tried to block Starbucks from expanding to punish them for supporting gay marriage, you can bet I would have been drinking overpriced coffee yesterday, even though I don’t support gay marriage. But that’s not what happened. Pretty uniformly, the “liberal” and “tolerant” crowds in America threaten conservative and traditional values folks with illegal and unconstitutional government sanctions if they even speak out on a dicey subject (much less *act* on an issue like this). That’s just wrong. So, I’m glad that Chick-fil-A made a pretty penny off the whole controversy, because it reminds the “tolerant, liberal” do-gooders that Americans will defend their rights when they need to.
And, for what it’s worth, many of the people I’ve known who are supporting Chick-fil-A in this aren’t even particularly conservative, or opposed to gay marriage. For example, I’ve known some Jews who weren’t very keen on the idea of governments trying to punish people’s businesses because of their religious beliefs. Not to Godwin the thread, but pogroms and holocausts usually begin with actions like these.
I literally LOLed at Jim’s scenario with Jesus and the Southern Chicken Sandwiches!
If CFA is so homophobic, then I’m not sure why homosexuals work at their restaurants. I can’t remember which news outlet interviewed a few of them yesterday. While I 100% support traditional marriage, I do think it’s sad that these employees have reportedly had to listen to truly despicable comments from customers who thought they were preaching to the choir. We can oppose something without using slurs. Jesus loves us all, and we are all sinners.
Going to Chick-fil-A yesterday may not have been civil disobedience (not yet, Deo gratias), but it certainly felt like an act of cultural disobedience.
I’m curious, does anyone know if the constitutions of the states where these threatening municipalities sit have provisions protecting free political speech from government retaliation? I know the Constitution protects folks from federal ramifications for free political and religious speech, but are there similar provisions to protect from provincial governments in Massachusetts and Illinois, etc.?
I feel that these threats go against the ethic of America, but I haven’t seen anything explaining whether they are actually also illegal in their states. As such, I wonder if just the threat is actionable or if the government officials would have to be actually able to carry out the threat before any state constitution provisions would apply? And what would the consequences be in those cases, can an alderman or mayor be removed, or the the recourse simply a court order that the restaurant can be built there without municipal approval?
I prefer what I’ve seen here as response, personally — individuals taking charge — and secondarily the ballot box, as remedies for this sort of coercion. But I wonder if there are legal remedies, also?
LisaP: I think most states’ constitutions include explicit protections similar to the Bill of Rights, but it doesn’t matter. Your state constitution can give you more rights than the US Constitution guarantees, but it can’t give you fewer. You don’t lose your 1st Amendment rights just because you have the misfortune to live in, say, Chicago (apologies to all the nice Chicago people).
WiduKind said: “By the way – what is a dog-ooder:?”
It’s the opposite of a “dog-eater”, ie, a person he considers worthy of a vote for President.
Thanks, Sissy, but doesn’t the First Amendment only provide that the federal government can make no law abridging freedom of etc.? If Maryland still wanted to call itself a Catholic state, it could, right?
Or am I totally off?
Here in liberal Upstate NY, there are no Chick-fil-A’s , but if there were, I would have definitely patronized them! Bravo to Dan Cathy for his courageous and uncompromising stand on traditional marriage!
Love the picture of the PCPA nuns in San Antonio! Must have given the LCWRs fits! Bring it on, good daughters of St. Clare and Mother Angelica, bring it on!
robrtbrown, I also like your commonsense and insightful comments.
frjim4321: Shame on you for your not supporting the Church’s stand for traditional marriage! Our Lord is merciful, of course; but He also said, ‘Go and sin no more’! He is just as well as merciful. And nothing defiled (such as those who practice homosexual-I will not to say ‘gay’-relations) will enter the Kingdom of God! Remember that!
Yes, LisaP, you’re right that the wording of the First Amendment says “Congress shall make no law”, but the Supreme Court used the incorporation doctrine in Gitlow v. New York (1925) to also prohibit state legislatures from enacting such laws.
“judging by the women in the wimples (almost said hijab)”
Okay, I’ll take the bait:
Contrast and Compare: Hijab vs. Habit
Hijab:
Appearance: Long and black
Source: Imposed by cultural and religious custom
Symbolism: You are my personal property and don’t you forget it.
Penalty for not wearing it: Imprisonment, beating, possibly death
Habit, full:
Appearance: Long and black (also brown, grey, white or rose)
Source: Provided by religious community one voluntarily joins
Symbolism: Bride of Christ
Penalty for not wearing it: Nothing to expulsion from order. But since it’s voluntarily assumed, usually not an issue
Someone philosophical please provide the correct term for PostCatholic’s logical fallacy.
We figured it would be packed on Wed., so we went a few days earlier. It was doing better business than any other business in the food court on Saturday night. The crowd ranged from the tattooed unwashed to a local Baptist youth group to the cathedral deacon’s whole brood. I expect that sales are probably up all week. Iowa had same-sex “marriage” imposed on us by judicial fiat, so attempts at political coercion are especially resonant here.
Zatarain also has jambalaya, and you can add shrimp. A woman I know from Louisiana always has good things to say about Zatarain products. BTW, Zat also sells frozen Blackened Chicken Alfredo, which is also good. If someone needs fat in the diet, cook penne, then add one of the many vodka sauces available at grocery stores (Classico, Emeril’s, etc). Ditto for Alfredo Sauce on fettuccine.
Meatless Friday is a penance that anyone can do. It’s not like standing barefoot in the snow and reciting the Miserere or rolling around in thorn bushes. Personally, I am a lover of fish and seafood, but I am still forced to remember that on a certain day–not just any day in the week–I do not eat meat. There are still some Fridays when I would like to grill a hamburger or have a big turkey sandwich. IMHO, it’s very important that any penance not be a great act of heroism but rather something that promotes temperance and the interior life.
Actually, Skeinster, it’s a little more complicated than that. To be accuracte, “hijab” refers only to the head covering (scarf, veil, what have you), i.e. a Muslim woman can wear a hijab and be wearing jeans and a sweater with it (happens a lot). And though it’s technically a requirement of Islam, most of the Muslim women I know (I have a lot of Muslim neighbors in my condo, and I ride the bus with a lot of these women) are happy with them. The ones that seem less happy with it are the ones that wear the full burka (wear only the eyes show), whereas those whose faces can show are happier.
Sissy, HUGE thanks — I kind of asked the question sideways because I didn’t want to come off wrong, but that one has been nagging at the back of my brain every time I heard someone reference the 1st in connection with this CFA issue. Thank you so much for the information, I feel much clearer on this!
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robtbrown: homophobia is “fear of humans”, right? As in, “The deer in the forest suffer from homophobia.” I still don’t know what that has to do with chicken sandwiches, though.
I think it’s Greek (same) not Latin (man). The operative word now is alektorophobia–fear of chickens.
And then there’s electoral alektorophobia, which refers to how fear of chickens affects elections.
Zatarain also has jambalaya, and you can add shrimp. A woman I know from Louisiana always has good things to say about Zatarain products. BTW, Zat also sells frozen Blackened Chicken Alfredo, which is also good. If someone needs fat in the diet without eating meat, cook penne, then add one of the many vodka sauces available at grocery stores (Classico, Emeril’s, etc). Ditto for Alfredo Sauce on fettuccine.
robtbrown: Thank you kind, sir. Fancy me getting my Greek and Latin mixed up. Yes, alektorophobia. I’ve heard there is no cure.
a catechist, why hasn’t someone or some group initiated a referendum in Iowa to amend your state’s constitution to define marriage as between one man and one woman? Or have they? An amendment would override the previous state Supreme Court’s ruling.
LisaP: glad to be of service. State and local governments can’t just bypass the USC (although sometimes they try). That’s why the mayors all backed off within hours of making their threats. Someone in legal cleared her throat and said “Uh, sir…..”
@Robtbrown, your lady friend from Louisiana mus not be native to the state if shes recommending Zatarains.. its kinda like soneone in Italy serving chef boy ardee as an.example of italian cuisine, or maybe tombstone pizza…jus sayin
You are absolutely right- I was thinking of the burkha.
That’s what I get for posting in a rush to get to my volunteer job.
Thanks for the correction!
danielinnola, any other store brands that you could recommend?
I saw Boston Mayor Tom Menino’s letter which asked Cathy not to go ahead with a store opening in Boston. And I heard Chicago Mayor Emmanuel’s hot words on the topic. But I don’t think I actually heard anyone say that they would deny permits to Cathy’s franchisees other than one alderman in Chicago. Does an alderman have that authority in Chicago? If so, I agree–that’s an abuse of power.
I personally don’t like to eat fast food and have eaten at a Chick-Fil-A once only, during a convention in St Louis. I tagged along on that occasion with some colleagues who chose the restaurant. All this happens at an amused distance from me.
PostCatholic: the controversy started with a Chicago alderman who stated he would not grant a permit for a franchise that was proposed for his district. The other mayors then chimed in to express their support for his unconstitutional position.
Sissy, I believe Chicago is a constitution-free zone. ;)
PostCatholic: I didn’t address your question clearly enough: the letter from Mayor Menino was his attempt at a walk-back. His initial comments included threats to “block” Chick-fil-A through the permitting power. He stated “We will not have Chick-fil-A on the Freedom Trail”. And yes, the threat made by the alderman in Chicago was credible; the permitting issue was within his purview. These were open threats to use governmental power to punish “unpopular” political/religious speech.
wmeyere: “I believe Chicago is a constitution-free zone. ;)”
Well, the powers that be would certainly like to make it so! They do all they can. It’s no coincidence that the erroneously-titled “Constitutional Law Professor” who sits in the White House cut his teeth in Chicago.
My father’s family is from Chicago. I grew up with a good deal of awareness of how the place works.
“Clout: Mayor Daley and His City” is a good portrait of it, as well.
wmeyer: I’m sure you could write a book. It’s amazing that kind of official thuggery can be permitted to continue year after year. I’m sure President Obama will quickly find his niche when he returns home later this year.
Sissy: No need. “Clout” says it all.
frjim4321 says:
1 August 2012 at 9:07 pm
“Was nowhere near the Chick-fil-A here today . . . have no idea what their attendance was but imagine if there was anything out of the ordinary it will be in the paper tomorrow. Don’t know if homophobia is a big draw in this part of the country.”
I suppose the weekly LCWR potluck created a scheduling conflict for you.