We had a first poll HERE. I took the top 15 results and offer them again for your opinion as the conclave begins today!
The combox is open for your explanations. Anyone can vote, but you have to have an approved registration to comment.
Again… what name WILL the Pope take, NOT what name do you WANT the Pope to take. You can add that in your comment!
PS: I added Leo XIV… ’cause I simply had to, didn’t I?
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I’ll go for Joseph the first. It would be a nice way to honor BXVI, indicate continuity and last but foremost invoke the protection of Saint Joseph.
Thomas I
Cardinal Albert Malcolm Ranjith Patabendige Don will choose this as his name, in honor of the Apostle and the place he holds in the history of the Cardinal’s part of the world, and being the first one also would reflect on the nature of a Pope from that part of the world.
Plus, it’s my given name, so I have, as they say “a dog in the fight”. :)
If it is not Benedict XVI, then Joseph.
Pius XII the second.
Playtime. Over.
I still think (but even moreso) that we need a pope who could say
“I will be known as Gregory Leo Pius the First.”
and would proceed as he did:
“The Pope announced that a general ‘cleansing of the Vatican’s Augean stables’ was underway. He had told priests, bishops and Cardinals of the Church that if they were not prepared to renounce the heretical beliefs which had become so much a part of their nature, they must step down and leave the Church. He had reminded them that by the grace of God and prayers to His Holy Mother and despite the long dark night of crisis which had obtained for over forty years, a quiet miracle had been taking place. A growing group of young priests steeped in tradition and loyal to the Magisterium was now spread around the world. Should it be necessary they would be made Bishops and Cardinals in record time to replace those who had fallen away.”
Read more here of what Gregory Leo Pius I might say.
Again, I wonder why Leo is not on the list. I think I’ll go with Gregory this time in the absence of Leo.
Leo XIV
Under Leo XIII the Catholic Faith fluorished. Older orders of religious experienced a revival and new orders were founded. I believe he founded the Vatican Observatory (I might be wrong there). He also denounced socialism, and wrote an encyclicals on the importance of Christian marriage and one on the importance of Christianity as the foundation of political life. Timely topics that need to be revisited.
Aren’t there kind of too many variables involved to make an even remotely accurate guess? You could probably be equally accurate by rolling a die as by trying to analyze it.
Using that method, I got Innocent… which is pretty funny, since it’s the same one I went with before.
Among all these here, Gregory, in memory of Gregory the Great. (And wishfully also Gregory VII.)
Yet rather, Leo XIV, in memory of the author of Rerum novarum. Not that that would be too bad.
About my wishes, I’d slightly prefer Pius XIII, because despite the true importance of prudence, prudence is sometimes not refreshing to the heart. You need to have a standpoint and stick to it; you need to sing a confident, triumphalist march song, for once in a while. This Pius XIII would do, it is why it will not be chosen, but it is why I’d like it to be chosen.
Yet Leo XIV which I do think likely, would not be too bad.
Leo XIV, and I’m not just saying it because I’m hoping for Burke. I think few cardinals want to take a “statement” name (i.e., one that evinces a certain “stance” on things like traditionalism/reform/how we view Vatican II) like Paul VII, John XXIV, Pius XIII, John Paul III; also, I don’t think anyone will want to take the name Benedict XVII while Benedict XVI is still alive. Leo is the most recent papal name after all of those names. Further, I think a historical appreciation for Leo XIII’s legacy, from both the “left” and the “right” within the Church, has increased during the last 20 years or so.
I’m more convinced that the Pope’s name will be Leo XIV than I am about who the Pope will be.
Yes, why is Leo missing yet again? It would have been my first choice, to indicate both a concern for genuine social Catholic teaching (Leo XIII), and also a desire to rebuild and reform in an era where civilization is starting to collapse (like Pope St. Leo the Great).
By the way, I will also vote for ____ the First, because I too am hoping for a Pope Malcolm Ranjith, and if he is elected, I think that the first Asian pope should choose a new name, like Thomas I, apostle to Asia. Also, he would be a good patron in this age of rationalism and skepticism.
Stephen, to stand with the martyrs during this time of terrible persecution of the Church.
Pedantically, I shall again note that a name without precedent is not normally called “the First.” Only John Paul I did that, because John and Paul had precedents.
Athanasius I
I also think Cardinal Ranjith taking the name Thomas I would be a beautiful thing.
God’s will be done.
annie
Perhaps a bonus round suggested by the coat of arms: Will the next pope’s coat of arms be surmounted by a miter or the triregnum?
Nicholas VI – playtime’s really over, time to break out the pontifical boxing gloves.
I think a Thomas I would be more appropriate if one of the Cardinals from the St. Thomas Christian Churches (Syro-Malabar, Syro-Malankar) were elected.
I think that Pope Burke will choose Pius XIII, and I think that he will be elected, which is why I chose that name.
I chose ? the First again. None of the other names really struck me as likely, but I’m sure I will be proven wrong.
I keep on thinking Gregory…
Leo XIV.
I voted other. Joseph I will be the name.
Paschal III. The Paschal Mystery is central to the Faith, as the Easter Triduum to the Liturgy. Such a name would aid both the New Evangelization and the Liturgical Reform.
This whole thing is making me very nervous. I’d like to see a Pius. I voted this time, however, for Benedict XVII. There’s a history of Pope’s signaling continuity by taking the last Pope’s name.
Leo XIV — the Burke Coat of Arms with a crusaders cross on a yellow field, and rampant lion is ready made. We need a rampant lion.
I voted “Other” this time. Joseph.
I thought possibly Clement, but am more inclined to think it might be Leo.
The next Pope will want to continue the work of Bl. John Paul II and Benedict XVI in re-orienting the Church towards the correct implementation of the reforms as actually intended by Bl. John XXIII and (most of) the Council Fathers, and will therefore take the name John XXIV
I ticked “John XXIV”. It would be a good one – ‘liberals’ would rejoice that there is a Pope who obviously encapsulates the Spirit of the Council. Catholics will know better and rejoice equally. I imagine Paul VII would provoke the same response, too.
Pius is a name used exclusively by Italian Popes, so I doubt it will be selected.
Leo XIV.
But his name is not either list. So I’ll take Gregory.
I think it will be Benedict XVII to signal continuity with Benedict XVI — especially since BXVI left the Petrine Office under such unprecedented circumstances as to cause great unsettlement (which, maybe, was part of his reason for abdicating: we NEED to be unsettled into noticing our dangerous times). But my second place prediction would be Pius XIII, as that would strongly signal that playtime is over (and please God, let it be over!), and maybe as a signal to the SSPX that it’s now or never. Leo or Gregory might also be effective for similar reasons, so I think those are also possibilities.
Pedantically, I shall again note that a name without precedent is not normally called “the First.” Only John Paul I did that, because John and Paul had precedents.
True, though the currently reigning King Juan Carlos of Spain is known as Juan Carlos I, perhaps for the same reason.
My other vote is for
Joseph.
I voted for Gregory, but Clement was a close 2d.
Pope Leo XIV will bookend with Pope Leo XIII who gave us the St Michael the Archangel prayer, for an impelling reason. The reason has come nearly to fulfillment. Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke will humbly fulfill his destiny to purify the Church.
Last time, at least a dozen people in the comment boxes said they would have voted for Leo XIV if it had been on the list. So I am surprised it wasn’t added here. I am voting for it again.
Joseph I, or Athanasius I
Raymond Leo Burke Coat of Arms
The original Burke motto, on the original coat of arms is “ung roy, ung foy, ung loy” meaning “one king, one faith, one law” (not neccessarily in that order.)
Today, the beginning of the conclave, is the feast day of Pope Gregory the Great (in the old calendar). That augurs well for a Pope Gregory XVII. Plus his is the perfect name for a pastor-evangelist Pope.
By the way, all English-speaking Catholics should say a prayer of thanks to PopeGregory today for his evangelization of England.
I’ll join the “No Leo??” contingent
Be careful to preserve your faith, because in the future the Church in the U.S.A will be separated from Rome.” St. Leopold Mandic (1866-1942 A.D.)
I wonder if the election of Cardinal Raymond Burke, or another Cardinal who is uncompromisingly orthodox, will bring about the fulfillment of this prophecy. Especially if and when Obama, who the AmChurch heretics put into office twice, starts turning up the heat.
Sorry – I posted under the wrong title!
Pope Boniface IX reigned from 1389 to 1404, so I hope very much that the new Pope does not choose that name, because it would be a judgement that the Roman line of the Great Schism were invalid anti-popes.
That, of course, would involve changing a number of papal names, since the numbering of Gregory, Clement, Urban, Benedict, and Innocent has all been judged by the assumption that the Roman line was the valid line and the line of Avignon are “anti-papa.”
Just saying.
[Okay… okay. I’ll adjust the name. I am sure that everyone out there is saying… Ooops better not pick Boniface because of my clerical error! o{];¬) ]
I think the logical choices are Gregory (my vote), Leo, or Pius. Benedict will make two living Benedicts, which will be bad. Joseph will play to the SSPX’s current consecration to St Joseph. Athanasius I is a pipe pope dream. Btw, Father, we (I) can’t tick a box to get e-mail notifications of further replies. I liked that. Now I have to ruin your stats by refreshing, and it’ll look like most of your visits come from the southern tip of Africa.
Just as the Pope Emeritus reached between the Vatican Councils to select Benedict, the next pope will do likewise and take Leo.
The name Pius would inflame the leftists as much as we would be concerned about a Paul or a John. Leo carries less baggage than other names, and benefits from being only three letters: Let the Twitterati rejoice!
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Since Leo XIV is not an option, I pick Pius XIII. [It is… shall I add a vote_]
Perhaps “Inclement I” would be appropriate for the sort of pope many of us are hoping for, a leader who can stand up and say “I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword” since that may be what is needed to fix some of the problems in the Church!
OK, I guess that’s a bit too tongue-in-cheek… Seriously I thought I had an original idea with “Thomas I” if – mirabile dictu – Ranjith were elected, but apparently others have had the same thought…
Legisperitus says:
12 March 2013 at 10:47 am
Pedantically, I shall again note that a name without precedent is not normally called “the First.”
Customs change in 1,100 years, I suppose. [As they did in 1978.]
I have a hunch it will be Cardinall Oullet who will go with Gregory XVII. No reason for that hunch however. I like the suggestions of Joseph I and Thomas I and would have no problem with any of the names.
Burke as Leo XIV
I went with Leo XIV, since I had been looking for it in the last poll. In the absence of Leo in the last poll, I had resorted to making up my own pope names. I’ll spare you all such flights of my fancy this time. You can thank me later – after the white smoke!
Was John Paul I known as John Paul I prior to John Paul II?
I voted for Gregory, because I did not see Leo, but I would have voted for Leo.
I agree with the first poster Phil_NL that Joseph is a superb name (it is my name!), and that it would honor Papa Ratzinger without re-using Benedict while he is still alive.
I am wondering if–in light of the pre-conclave “buzz” about everything being different this time–perhaps the new pope might not want to send a signal that would be mistaken. Would choosing to be the first anything be such a signal? A Pope Andrew, or Pope Joseph (although that could signal continuity) might do that.
Pius XIII maybe sends too much of a signal; and the fellows who might actually want to emulate Pius, may not want to make a thing about the name.
I’m thinking Leo or Gregory–I went for Gregory, given several having a rep for being reform-minded.
Fr. Martin Fox, I love the name Andrea, and I kept seeing the statue of Andrew’s X cross during the mass today.
I’d think the timing of the conclave might be such as to have an installation(?) Mass on the Feast of St. Joseph. As Patron of the Universal Church, a Pope Joseph would continue on as a Pope of Christian Unity. As a protector of chastity, he would guard the Church against further sexual abuse. As Head of the Holy Family he would promote marriage and families. As patron of workers and lover of poverty Joseph takes heed of the poor. Having led the Holy Family on the Flight into Egypt Joseph is patron of those the flee from persecution. There is of course a whole litany (Terror of Demons, etc.). Then on top of that, it honors his predecessor Joseph Ratzinger.
“honors his predecessor..”. Is it correct that JPII’s middle name is also Joseph?
Wow — I hadn’t even thought of Joseph I. That would be awesome!
I have mixed feelings about the “1st” thing. When Card. Ratzinger was elected, I was delighted that he didn’t call himself John Paul III. Of course, on the one hand it would have signaled continuity with JP2, which would have been great. But on the other hand, if the popes elected after 1965 all had very different names than the popes elected before, that might (unintentionally) give more apparent weight to a hermeneutic of discontinuity. So I was delighted that Joseph Ratzinger chose a papal name other than “John”, “Paul”, or “John Paul” — especially one with a big number, like XVI. The number itself indicate the continuity of the Church!
I wonder whether the leading papabili have already thought about what name they might choose. I mean, even the ones who are almost certain they won’t be elected… wouldn’t they wonder about this, at least a little bit?
Here’s a question: John Paul I and Benedict XVI publicly explained why they had chosen their names. Is this a longstanding custom? Have many of our Gregorys and Leos and Benedicts and Piuses indicated why they chose the name, and if so, was it usually out of respect for a previous pope with that name?
Another question: When a pope chooses the same name as his predecessor, has that traditionally been seen as a sign that he plans to continue the previous pope’s policies? In the past five centuries, there have only been six such pairs (Pius IV & V, Clement IX & X, Clement XIII & XIV, Pius VI & VII, Pius XI & XII, and John Paul I & II) — and for the five centuries before that, it never happened!
Pius XIII, the new hammer of heretics for our generation, to bring about a Lepanto-like spiritual victory by the intercession of Our Blessed Mother as his saintly predecessor (the Fifth) once did, to restore all things in Christ as his saintly predecessor (the Tenth) once did.
I voted for Leo, but Stephen is an intriguing dark horse. It is similar to John and Paul – a New Testament name not picked in many centuries. The only problem is the number confusion. Other Popes have also been confusingly numbered due to mistaken counting of antipopes or questionable elections, but only the Stephens have been renumbered (twice – first in the sixteenth century and then back to the original in 1961).
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope-elect_Stephen
I stick to Leo XIV, but I give one exception.
If it is Cardinal Erdö, it will be Stephen.
Well, nobody picked “Francis” and now we know that is the name of our already beloved Pope.
But I haven’t heard it clarified if this is for Francis of Assisi or Francis DeSales, founder of the Jesuits?
Did anyone notice how in the past 20 hours approx. (since Pope Francis’ name was announced) that “[ __?__ ] the FIRST” suddenly jumped from 4th to 1st place? It’s amusing how people think that it makes sense to vote in this pole AFTER the new pope’s name has been announced! Do they do it just to feel good that they “got it right” even though everyone now knows? Anyway, not a major issue, just, as I said, amusing. It made me chuckle.