Whole new horizons of theobabble.

On Coast to Coast AM (the radio show) the other night they were talking about Martians living on earth.

As it turns out, Martians mixed it up with the Celts a long time ago. This is why there are Celts with red hair and green eyes!

I am not making this up.

Wait until the Leadership Conference of Women Religious discovers George Noory and Coast to Coast AM!

Whole new horizons of theobabble.

For years to come, they’ll find new candidates for the keynote address at their assemblies!  They will fit right in.  (HERE and HERE and HERE)

Just to make it easy for Sr. Florence Deacon, OSF, click HERE.  But here is a key paragraph … and there is something pretty ominous for the whole Church in this:

What the hell is this? Star Trek?

Basiago disclosed how his participation in Project Pegasus led him into the CIA’s Mars teleportation program. From 1980 to 1984 he said he would regularly visit a building in El Segundo, California, that was owned and operated by Hughes Aircraft. According to Basiago, an elevator in that building would morph from a box into a cylinder and then passengers could step out onto the surface of Mars. He claimed to have interacted with Martians and been taken to their underground civilization where he was taught about the various Martian typologies. Basiago identified the figure in the Martian head photo as Homo maris maris, a humanoid species indigenous to the planet with an elongated head, a bulbous crown, pointy ears and a spindly body. He credited photo analyst Patricio Barrancos of Argentina [ARGENTINA?] with finding the head and suggested it is corroborative data of the CIA’s Mars jump room program and his claim that Mars is inhabited.

If only Andrew D. Basiago, president of the Mars Anomaly Research Society (MARS!  Get it?), were SISTER Andrea.

By the way, have I mentioned lately that the LCWR rejected me?

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34 Comments

  1. Cathy says:

    I’m still a little discombobulated in regards to their biotic momentum. Are they pro biotic or anti biotic? Will they have the intestinal fortitude to seriously probe their consciences in regards to where they stand, or will they simply be guided by their gut reaction?

  2. APX says:

    I dunno Cathy, but whatever the case, it sounds like a job for Activia prune yogurt.

  3. idelsan says:

    Do not worry. The LCWR it’s not going to “Live long and prosper”. :)

  4. Ha, I used to listen to Coast to Coast…. religiously….

  5. incredulous says:

    In addition to ArtBell returning …

    Does anybody have any comments on “Brother” Michael Dimond in general, his attacks on Michael Voris (who he claim casts a spell at the start of each Vortex), the soundness of his theology, and who has likewise appeared a few times with George Noory discussing UFO quackery on top of “real” Catholicism?

  6. incredulous says:

    Hmmm, this LCWR “rejection” meme is becoming worrisome. Envy? Lust? Pride? Anger? Luke 4:23. ;)

  7. inexcels says:

    It reads like a particularly lame Ray Bradbury story. Martian Chronicles: The Lost Chapter!

  8. ray from mn says:

    Wow! It’s good to see C2C fans among the leadership and readership of Fr. Z’s corps. Unfortunately, these days, I usually fall asleep before they get to the “juicy bits.” But I suppose maybe 1 out of 10 of their programs are pretty interesting, with 4 out of 10 being a waste of time.

  9. Supertradmum says:

    Living in the Midwest, Canada and Alaska for most of my life, I met many natives who believe they are descended from Star People. The Lakotas are the most notorious for this myth and it is now part of their religion. Catholics, who are the aging population of the tribes, expressed years ago to a missionary priest I knew that their people were falling into this New Age stuff in droves. The Sioux, not all, are into this stuff as well.

    some dubious links to add to your collection

    http://www.drboylan.com/strknrpt2.html

    http://www.starknowledgeconference.com/chief-smoke-eagle-star-knowledge-conference-iowa/

    http://www.starknowledgeconference.com/2013/

    http://www.starknowledgeconference.com/iowa-star-knowledge-kids/

    http://www.starknowledgeconference.com/2013/speakers/

    I especially wonder about the teaching to children of how to pray with tobacco, or…..and the man with lives with a group of trees. As in the above article, one cannot make this stuff up. Another guy named Apollo is a UFO contactee-just in case you want to meet an extra-terrestrial.

    There are more. Is occultic, of course. Notice the reference to Cayce.

    I am SO GLAD I am a Catholic. But, I am continually amazed that me, an orthodox, trad Catholic cannot get a job….wow!…and these people make a living discussing spirituality with aliens.

  10. Andrew says:

    Homo maris maris? Does that mean anything?

  11. acardnal says:

    I wonder if Roger Maris was from Mars?

  12. Jerry says:

    Where’s the charity?

  13. Choirmaster says:

    Homo maris maris? Seriously?

    I’m sure the latinists here could do much better. How about maris sapiens as a point of departure? Or, depending on how the nomenclature would work for xenobiological classifications, maybe maris sapiens erectus. I understand their point in using the genus “homo” as a ploy to underscore the idea of a sentient homomorphic organism, but a classification that has some real significance would be more helpful.

    I do miss listening to Coast to Coast.

    @Supertradmum: I would describe all of this more as Gnosticism than occultism. It’s all based upon “secret knowledge” of the truth bestowing enlightenment or salvation on the bearer, rather than a hidden formula of magical power. When one “discovers” these facts or truths, one is not said to gain any extraordinary control over one’s environment or any special congress with the spirits or demons, but only the possession of deeper truth hidden from the otherwise ignorant and unwashed masses. I think it’s safe to say that this “knowledge” is believed to bring some imprecise metaphysical or psychological advantage, but not much practical leverage in one’s affairs.

  14. Massachusetts Catholic says:

    Art Bell used to promote Malachi Martin’s works. Martin was a guest on the show several times, if I remember correctly.

  15. Nan says:

    I thought everyone knew that redheads were aliens? I used to work with a guy who believed that, and, unfortunately for him, his workstation was between two redheads.

  16. Scarltherr says:

    As someone of Celtic heritage with red hair and green eyes, I say, “These are not the droids you are looking for…”

    Fr. Z's Gold Star Award

  17. Choirmaster says:

    No, no @Nan, everyone knows that redheads don’t have souls. How insulting to say they’re aliens!

    However, if aliens don’t have souls, then I’ll have serious egg on my face!

  18. Cantor says:

    C’mon Father…

    If alien beings sent reconnaissance satellites to earth, they’d get shots of the lines at Nazca, Peru. Their imagery analysts would declare intelligent life on the planet. And we know they’re wrong about that.

  19. moon1234 says:

    If I remember correctly, the Church doesn’t exclude the possibility that God created other species on other planets. I think it is only human arrogance that thinks we are the ONLY sentient creature that he created. Most people forget than Angels are smarter than Humans, Stronger than Humans and have a perfect intellect.

    Genesis tells us that we are created in the image and likeness of God, but it does not tell us that we are the ONLY creatures created by God. Eventually MAN will travel to other planets and inhabit them. The Moon, Mars, other solar systems? What will people on earth call the humans of the future who have been living “off planet” for hundreds of years? How will an off world environment affect our biology? We know that astronauts who spend long trips on the ISS have weakened bones/muscles.

    The point is that we should not discount the idea of God creating life elsewhere in the universe or the fact that we may one day inhabit other planets. The key is to not fall into the new age trap that the Devil want’s to place us in.

    The thing that is attractive about Star Trek is that from a purely technical point of view, it is possible that there are other sentient species in the Universe. Will they all look humanoid? That is really a stretch. Our form is shaped by our environment over time though natural selection. If having the ability to see in the dark helps keep you alive longer, then it will not take long for that trait to dominate in the species as those without it die sooner.

    Coast to Coast is/was great fun. It was a lot MORE fun when Art was there. He had a way of drawing the listener in and making the program more interesting that the bare facts presented. Much of that is gone with George Norey. The number of commercials is also way out of control.

  20. Andrew says:

    Let’s not confuse these two words:
    Mars:
    Mars, Martis, Marti, Martem, Marte – masculine
    The sea:
    Mare, maris, mari, mare, mari – neutral

    Homo maris maris = a man of the sea of the sea

  21. Supertradmum says:

    Choirmaster, if these people are communing with demons, disguising as aliens, or using Edgar Cayce, they are into the occult.

  22. Dearest Father Zuhlsdorf,

    You write:

    “By the way, have I mentioned lately that the LCWR rejected me?”

    Personally, I have no problem with the comment, but there are those who would think it, at minimum, awkward and at worst, boastful of you to repeatedly remind us, your readers, of such an outstanding accolade.

    ;-)

    Pax et bonum,
    Keith Töpfer

  23. pseudomodo says:

    WHERE IS ERICH VON DANIKEN NOW THAT WE NEED HIM!!!!!!

    For those of you who are my age, we are now witnessing the multi sinusoidal 50 year decadal el nino wackadoodle reversal shift in the universal communal sci-fi hive intellect where stupid stuff is repeated every five decades and presented as new. Erich must be wetting his pants by now… and calling his publicist…and his lawyer…

  24. Suburbanbanshee says:

    Um, the people in Lakota, etc. legend who lived up in the stars were the stars themselves. Star People who came down to earth were the human forms of famous stars like the Pleiades, not people who lived on planets orbiting the Pleiades. If you’re going to be pagan, GET IT RIGHT.

    Moving along, red hair is the base color of human hair, and redheads are just people who don’t have enough brown or black or yellow hair to cover up the red. (Whereas albinos don’t have any red base color, either.) So as alien genes go, it’s just exactly like regular human genes except more purely human. Woooooo, I’m soooo impressed.

    If you’re going to go with “alien genes” or “catpeople genes” or what have you, you’re supposed to focus on the supposedly weird skulls of redheads, and the differences in ribs and pain thresholds that for some reason sort with not having extra hair color genes. But again, this would tend to argue that redheads are pure inbred humans, whereas the rest of us have weird mutations or exogametic alien genes. Boogabooga.

  25. Suburbanbanshee says:

    P.S. All chimpanzees are redheads. Did the Martians mate with them too? Did they mate with Irish setters? Did they mate with chestnut horses and redmaned lions? What hairy mammals did they not mate with?

  26. The Masked Chicken says:

    “Homo maris maris = a man of the sea of the sea”

    Oh, like Aquaman?

    “According to Basiago, an elevator in that building would morph from a box into a cylinder and then passengers could step out onto the surface of Mars.”

    Well, there is the Non-teleportation Theorem of Quantum Entanglement that says, THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE.

    Also,

    MARS HAS AN ATMOSPHERE OF CO2 AND NO OZONE (so, instant sunburn from UV C radiation followed by death).

    Whew, that felt good.

    The Chicken

  27. ghp95134 says:

    Since I am a NASA civil servant, I am not allowed to discuss the subject of Mars [or Martians]; all correspondence — and keystrokes on my keyboard — are monitored.

    My supervisor just retired a few months ago to Sedona, Arizona; there, it is claimed, seven different species of aliens exist.

    He’s going to have a lot of fun when “they” find out he’s a retired NASA senior scientist.

    –ghp

  28. The Masked Chicken says:

    “Since I am a NASA civil servant, I am not allowed to discuss the subject of Mars [or Martians]; all correspondence — and keystrokes on my keyboard — are monitored.”

    I appreciate the sensitivity of your position from an employment standpoint.

    It used to be NASA policy, until this year (because of the Chinese copying huge amounts of technical data), that most of its technical reports were in the public domain. In fact, the NASA Headquarters Library still has many technical reports available, including some about Mars.

    http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/hqlibrary/find/documents.htm

    The Chicken

  29. Any one who doubts the existence of the Mars teleportation system can see for himself. … Go to

    http://www.stmarysrockledge.org/new_church.htm

    Scroll down to the Blessed Sacrament Chapel photo. (“Beam me up, Scotty.”)

  30. Choirmaster says:

    @Henry Edwards: Wrong, you’re so wrong! I went to the site, scrolled down, and it only transported me to the 1970’s. Stop spreading your disinformation!

  31. Supertradmum says:

    I put this on maybe a week ago on another thread. This is called the Star Trek Tabernacle.

    http://www.st-dunstans.org/Tour/tabernacle.jpg

  32. OrthodoxChick says:

    Martian Tabernacles? Try this one (scroll down a bit when you get to the page):

    http://catholicbriefly.blogspot.com/2010/11/sacred-heart-church-vellore.html

  33. The Cobbler says:

    Supertradmum’s concerns about the occult notwithstanding, the excerpt reposted by Fr. Z reminds me of nothing so much as the movie A Beautiful Mind; of course, that doesn’t mean much, since you can’t trust a movie to accurately portray schizophrenia…

  34. sunbreak says:

    I used to like Coast to Coast and especially liked its predecessor, The Art Bell Show. I found it very amusing, but then again, I like science fiction.

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