Legatus: Day 2

The theme of pretty much the whole day yesterday was: courage.  We have to be courageous now and stand up for what we believe, for the Enemy is not going to relent.

Last night Archbp. Chaput was the celebrant for Mass. He contrasted the figures of King David and King Herod.


This is what the members of Legatus recite after Mass.


I had a good chat with Sen. Santorum, who was the speaker last night.



After supper I was pleased to meet up with one of the favorites of the Fishwrap, Michael Novak.


Many of the people who were on the Legatus pilgrimage last October are here.



Michael Coren is here this morning.


He’s amusing and the Canada jokes are coming in a steady stream.

He has taken well-deserved shots at Bob Newhart.

I also enjoyed the line, “Some people call me the Bill O’Reilly of Canada, but that’s not true.  I’m Catholic.”


There are some good exhibits, as you might expect. Wyoming Catholic College still has my favorite item.



I have been chewing the rag with quite a few people this morning.

For example I got to catch up with Fr Frank Pavone and hear what Priests For Life is up to.



John Smeaton of SPUC is on fire.



He said the more bishops should imitate the bishops if Nigeria in their strong opposition to the homosexualist agenda.

Now he is on Ireland passing anti-life legislation.


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  1. NoraLee9 says:

    That post-Communion prayer by St. Thomas Aquinas is one of my favorites. I have a little prayer book that I bought from Familiae Sancti Hieronymi many years ago which has this text in the original Latin. I thought your copy to be a very good translation.
    Enjoy the weather, Pater. Too much snow up here.

  2. SKAY says:

    Thank you for the wonderful pictures and commentary, Father.

  3. “This is what the members of Legatus recite after Mass.”

    What better way for all laymen to prepare for Mass than with the prayers of St. Ambrose and/or St. Thomas Aquinas before Mass, and to give thanks after Mass with the prayer of St. Thomas Aquinas for thanksgiving. Most Latin-English EF hand missals include these three prayers in English, while the MTF and CTS hand missals for the OF include them in both Latin and English. Indeed, what a profound difference it might make in the atmospherics in many parishes if everyone knelt in silence for these prayers before Mass, and everyone knelt silently at the conclusion of Mass for the prayer of thanksgiving.

  4. Mike says:

    Sophia Press has a nifty little book of Aquinas’ prayers, with Latin on one page, and English trans. on the other.

    I was thinking before Mass this morning of that series of questions James Lipton used to ask at the end of each show. One was: what is your least favorite word?

    My least favorite word: missalette.

  5. Mike, your most favorite word: missal?

  6. WaywardSailor says:

    The Prayers of St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Ambrose before Mass, and the Anima Christi and prayers of St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Bonaventure and the “Suscipe” of St. Ignatius after Communion help to focus the mind wonderfully.

  7. Andkaras says:

    I am greatful that there are people like this in the world . Thanks Legatus. Extra prayers for you all today.

  8. mamajen says:

    This sounds like a fantastic conference.

  9. CGPearson says:

    Michael Coren’s line is perfect.

  10. lana says:

    Henry, I am with you. I carry my thin red Ecclesia Dei missal with me to OF Mass just for those prayers. What a world of difference it makes to make a good preparation and thanksgiving. And for variety, My Prayer Book by Fr Lasance has 3 sets of prayers before and aftrr Mass. Also, the collects, post-communion, etc are good to repeat the better to obtain the special fruits of the Mass of the day.

  11. ClavesCoelorum says:

    Thanks for the updates, Father! Enjoy the time. :)

  12. KevinSymonds says:

    Rick Santorum’s standing as a Catholic is questionable. He publicly stated on the Greta van Susteren show that he supports taxpayers funding artificial contraception.

  13. acardnal says:

    “He said the more bishops should imitate the bishops if Nigeria in their strong opposition to the homosexualist agenda.”

    Boy! That statement is so true. One would think that in the USA the Constitution’s amendments regarding free speech and freedom of religion would embolden American bishops to speak out more freely, forcefully and forthrightly about this issue. But it’s a chimera. Too many are feckless and regard “human respect” – to use a phrase from classic Catholic teaching – more desirable than their regard for God’s will and their obligations as an ordinary.

  14. Mike says:

    Henry: Correct!

  15. capchoirgirl says:

    Henry: The missals we have at our parish (actual hard-bound books with the Mass readings, order of the Mass, propers for special days, etc.) has these prayers in the back. Love it. I love seeing so many people saying them, too. :)

  16. mr_anthony says:

    Honestly, Rick Santorum gives me the creeps. He doesn’t make an attractive case for explicit Catholic participation in national politics.

    I can’t remember if Santorum was on stage, but I’ll never forget when the golden rule got boo’ed in the 2012 GOP primary debates. That’s all I needed to know about the modern GOP: shoot first, ask questions later is their idea of foreign policy.

  17. byzantinesteve says:

    Fr Z, will you be saying mass in the EF this weekend? I live in Orlando and would love an opportunity to meet you and to have my wife and soon attend an EF mass for the first time. If so, please comment with the details. Thanks!

  18. Jacob says:

    I’m curious. Is Tom Monaghan around the conference?

  19. Iacobus M says:

    Wow . . . Sounds like an incredible conference. Any chance the talks will be available online?
    Iacobus M vitafamiliariscatholica@blogspot.com

  20. mr_anthony says:

    I wish there’d be a better effort by the Church at some realpolitik.

    There seems to be only two major approaches: One that involves being a shrinking violet and essentially capitulating on any given issue, and the other, which demands a full frontal attack on every controversy no matter how ridiculous or extreme it appears to the public eye.

    The first plays into the hands of the Democrats, the latter the GOP.

    Catholics, especially the Americans, should plainly see by now that the law is not used to express moral truth but to coerce action and political advantage. It doesn’t seem immoral to me for the Church to support measures that undermine that effort while covertly creating legal cover, rather than insisting that the only possible position to hold is a positivist expression of the Truth.

    Strategy guys, strategy.

  21. Priam1184 says:

    @Henry Edwards In my 1962 missal it contains the Canticle of the Three Young Men as a possible way of giving thanksgiving after Mass. Can you imagine if, after the priest descended from the altar, he turned toward the Crucifix, knelt down, and led the people in reciting that? So much better than any ‘recessional hymn’ I have ever heard that I confess I cannot help but walking out on.

  22. acardnal says:

    Archbishop Ignatius Kaigama’s, the President of the Nigerian Bishops’ Conference, assertive remarks on homosexualists and various issues can be read here. This one in particular seems pertinent to Mr. Smeaton’s comments:

    “In Africa, whether it is about population control, use of condoms, homosexuality, etc sometimes, the views of the West are forced down the throats of Africans through financial inducement. Africans must not be copy cats, believing that whatever comes from the West is ideal . . . . We must be faithful to our religious heritage even at a time when some of the people who introduced Christianity to us have become its ardent critics and some of them nurture a pathological hatred for Church directives or moral judgments.”


  23. Legisperitus says:

    Why Bob Newhart?

  24. Uxixu says:

    I knew I had seen that Thanksgiving Prayer from St Thomas Aquinas before… it’s in my Baronius Press Roman Missal (1962) with some slightly more archaic language.

  25. Uxixu says:

    @mr_anthony, contrast that with the Democrats booing the very inclusion of God in their platform at the 2012 DNC.

    I think Santorum’s worst problem was messaging and falling for some of their tricks. Abortion isn’t really a Federal issue, it’s a state one and Federal candidates have very little ability to effect it excepting only SCOTUS nominations. That’s what he should be reciting. Anything else play in to the demagoguery the leftists like to heap out on any non-hedonist politicians.

    He’s had good Catholic positions on most every policy question I can recall and, as far as we can tell, actually lives what he believes unlike certain notable other politicians.

  26. jacobi says:

    The theme, “Courage” is something we Catholics are not used to these days. It has been noticeable in the post-Vatican II era only by its absence.

    The huge influx of Relativist and Secularist thinking, in society at large and even in the Catholic Church, has only filled a vacuum. Bishops, clergy and laity were all at fault in being afraid to speak out in the 60s against such 19th century ideas.

    The Hierarchy were too timid or lacking in courage, so these ideas flooded into society at large, unchecked – and even into the Church.

  27. SKAY says:


    “Why Bob Newhart?” I think this is the answer.


  28. Bea says:

    Thanks for that prayer, Fr. Z.
    I found it in my old pre-v2 missal and also in the St. Andrews Missal with more elevated, humble language

    “Have vouchsafed, not through any merits of mine”
    “Condescension of your mercy”
    “perfect quieting of evil impulses”
    “Vouchsafe to bring me, a sinner, to that ineffable banquet”
    “fullness of content, eternal joy, gladness without alloy and perfect bliss”

    I had not seen this prayer in my missal before ( it was at the back of the missal), but thank you for guiding me to it. It will be put to good use.

  29. NBW says:

    Thanks for the updates, Fr. Z. Looks like a wonderful conference.

  30. Peyton says:

    I am a ecent convert, so would someone be so kind as to post the mentioned prayers, or point me to them online. Thanks.



  31. Uxixu says:

    Great idea, byzantinesteve. Guess a Pontifical High Mass celebrated by one of the Archbishops would be too much to ask for?

  32. RJHighland says:

    Looks like an excellent confernce Fr. Z, great speakers. Hope your having a great time. There are a couple of things I disagree with what Rick Santorum has said and voted for but in my eyes he is the closest thing to a real Catholic in politics. He should never have voted for the Federal funding of contraception. Compared to most Catholics in politics that is nothing. Is there any evidence that any Catholic in the Senate voted against that bill. He is the only Catholic Senator that I know that has stood on the Senate floor and spoken out on the horrors of abortion. The only one that I know to have spoken out publicly about the dangers of contraception in society. If you can’t vote for Rick because of his vote on contraception I can’t argue with you but if that is your bar you must not vote at all. In my eyes he has been the most solid Catholic politician, especially at the Senate and Presidental level, ever to run in this country. It shocked me that more conservative Protestants supported him than Catholics, put then again look at who most Catholics voted for. I think most Catholics would call for Barabbas if Good Friday were to occur today.

  33. stroseym says:

    In high school I served Mass for the Legatus meetings which took place at my parish. I always enjoyed the prayer of St. Thomas Aquinas afterwards.

  34. Legisperitus says:

    SKAY: Thanks, hadn’t caught that. Guess it takes rabid to know rabid.

  35. Lori Pieper says:

    I have taken to reciting St. Thomas’ prayer after my own Communion along with the Anima Christi. Both are with several others in the iBreviary. I have it on my Android. Any donations made for this free app go to the Franciscan Custody of the Holy Land. They preserve all the holy places and have done wonderful archaeological work on them.

  36. frjim4321 says:

    Seems like a very nice group of faithful Catholics but [?] almost exclusively quite affluent.

    Friends of a + friend quite involved in the proceedings.

  37. guans says:

    Here is the Anima Christi:
    Soul of Christ, sanctify me.
    Body of Christ, save me.
    Blood of Christ, inebriate me.
    Water from the side of Christ, wash me.
    Passion of Christ, strengthen me.
    O good Jesus, hear me.
    Within your wounds, hide me.
    Never let me be separated from you.
    From the malignant enemy, defend me.
    At the hour of death, call me;
    and bid me come to you.
    That with your saints I may praise you
    forever and ever.


    (By St. Ignatius Loyola) http://www.catholicdoors.com/prayers/saints.htm

  38. Suburbanbanshee says:

    frjim4321 —

    Obviously not everybody attending Legatus is affluent, or Fr. Z wouldn’t be there. [Legatus is an organization for Catholic CEO’s, business owners and so forth. I have been getting more involved over the last year or so. I am very impressed with their goals and their members. These people are super-engaged in their parishes and dioceses, very generous with their T,T &T. Great people. However, I sense that some people will assume uncharitably that because they have attained a level of success they are not therefore worthy of spiritual support, or that they somehow are second class citizens in the Church.]

    This is usually the way when one attends certain sorts of conventions or gatherings — there are quite a few people doing very well (often from the computer industry because they have more flexibility to attend stuff), a few famous people, many people of medium or low income who save up and set aside serious money for a short but packed mental vacation, and a lot of people with no money who are there on scholarships or guest-comping or as other kinds of volunteers working the event.

    The major difference here is that the attendees seem to be encouraged to wear nice business formal clothes, instead of T-shirts and jeans, or hall costumes. Also that the programs seem to be more informative than your average workshop, national club meeting, or sf convention.

  39. Suburbanbanshee says:

    For the uninformed, the economics of running a hotel gathering goes like this:

    You get a contract with the hotel promising you certain function spaces on certain days for a certain amount of money. You get a certain amount of people to pre-register for the event and pay you money. You use the pre-registration money to pay for the function space, the guests’ speaking fee and hotel and airfare, etc.

    The hotel provides your event with a discounted room rate for everyone attending. You get a certain amount of people to register at the hotel for those days, saying that they are going to the convention. In return, the hotel provides you with a small number of free hotel rooms (“comped”) for the event staff, guests, and/or volunteers to use. Generally these rooms are given to the event guests first, and everybody else sort of shoves in where they can. If it’s a really big gathering, more than one hotel may be involved in similar deals (“overflow hotel”).

    If you have a large event with a good reputation for paying its bills, tipping well, and making no trouble for the hotel, and if the people who negotiate with the hotel are good, you will tend to get better rates and discounts and comps. An experienced conventiongoer can often tell a lot about an event and the competence of its staff, by what is being charged versus what is being provided. You can also tell a lot the other way — if staffers are promising way more for way less than any event could possibly afford, you should be worried that either it’s a scam, or in danger of imminent financial collapse.

  40. robtbrown says:

    frjim4321 says:

    Seems like a very nice group of faithful Catholics but almost exclusively quite affluent.

    It is an organization for Catholic business leaders. If memory serves, it was founded by Tom Monaghan.

  41. Suburbanbanshee says:

    Anyway, my point is that, with good planning and high attendance, you can get a hotel event at a really nice hotel to be surprisingly inexpensive for the attendees. The hotel needs to fill those rooms and function spaces, or it is leaving money on the table every week and every weekend. And if you don’t charge too much for the event, the attendees will have mad money to spend on food in and around the hotel, on tipping the hotel staff, and on buying books or merchandise.

  42. bookworm says:

    “In my eyes he (Santorum) is the closest thing to a real Catholic in politics.”

    He recently gave a speech to Texas legislators that explains succinctly one of the biggest problems with the national GOP:


    “He told his audience, which will also be hearing Thursday from Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, that they also tend assume everyone shares their drive.

    “Republicans by and large are Type A personalities who want to climb to the top of the ladder, ” said Santorum. But, “a lot of people want to be good simple folks, go to work, 9 to 5.”

    “The consequence: “No one’s talking to the job holder — not the job creator. We don’t want to talk to people who want to be with us.”

    “Our programs are right, our message stinks,” said Santorum.”

  43. Imrahil says:

    Thanks for the link. Sen. Santorum makes good points there.

  44. New Sister says:

    The prayers in the Ecclesia Dei red missal are super spiritual aids. There is another prayer, offered in the missalette printed by Angelus Press, which is also superb – called the “Prayer For All Things Necessary To Salvation,” by Pops Clement XI.

  45. New Sister says:

    Is Archbishop Ignatius Kaigama not a Cardinal? I wish he were, and pray that African clergy will follow his lead! Comparing him to the USCCB is like watching the Seattle Seahawks take on a squad of cheerleaders.

  46. robtbrown says:

    “Republicans by and large are Type A personalities who want to climb to the top of the ladder, ” said Santorum. But, “a lot of people want to be good simple folks, go to work, 9 to 5.”

    He is on target. Too often the conversation is about the top 1%, the Repubs speaking positively and the Dems negatively (but not turning down their political contributions).

    The simple truth is that the Middle Class is suffering, those whose occupations benefited from post WWII Industrialism are now not doing well. The Dems use it as an excuse to raise taxes, and not merely on the 1%–they want upper middle class money.

    On the hand, the Repubs think everyone should be like a small businessman (who have huge tax advantages). It is true that the old category of the Nanny Corporation is ending, but your average Joe or Jane doesn’t know the importance of diversifying investments.

    BTW: One factor in the rise of the post WWII American Middle Class (and thus the unions) was that the war had all but destroyed the industrial capacity of Western nations except the US.

  47. StWinefride says:

    Peyton, here is another prayer of Thanksgiving after Holy Communion + prayers of St Ignatius Loyola: the Self-Consecration and Cardinal Newman’s translation of the Anima Christi (p.62 Latin-English Booklet Missal available at http://www.ecclesiadei.org/Booklet%20Missals.htm)

    My Good Jesus, I pray Thee to bless me; keep me in Thy love; grant me the grace of final perseverance. Help me to become a Saint. Safeguarded by Thee in soul and in body, may I never swerve from the right road, but surely reach Thy kingdom, where – not in dim mysteries, as in this dark world of ours, but – face to face we shall look upon Thee. There wilt Thou satisfy me with Thyself and fill me with such sweetness that I shall neither hunger nor thirst forevermore: Who with God the Father and the Holy Ghost livest and reignest world without end. Amen.

    May the Heart of Jesus in the Most Blessed Sacrament be praised, adored, and loved with grateful affection, at every moment, in all the Tabernacles of the world, even until the end of time. Amen.

    Act of Self-Consecration (St Ignatius Loyola)

    Take, O Lord, all my liberty, receive my memory, my understanding, and my whole will. All that I am and all that I have come to me from Thy bounty; I give it all back to Thee, and surrender it all to the guidance of Thy Holy Will. Give me Thy Love and Thy Grace; with these I am rich enough and ask for nothing more.

    Anima Christi:

    Soul of Christ, be my sanctification.
    Body of Christ, be my salvation.
    Blood of Christ, fill all my veins.
    Water of Christ’s side, wash out my stains.
    Passion of Christ, my comfort be.
    O good Jesus, listen to me.
    In Thy wounds I fain would hide,
    Ne’er to be parted from Thy side.
    Guard me should the foe assail me.
    Call me when my life shall fail me.
    Bid me come to Thee above,
    With Thy Saints to sing Thy love
    World without end. Amen.

  48. acardnal says:

    frjim4321 says:
    “Seems like a very nice group of faithful Catholics but almost exclusively quite affluent.”

    Affluent Catholics should be as welcome in the Church as the poor. Without the wealthy Catholics’ charitable donations to the Church – and especially its social services and educational activities – where would the Church be today? Let’s remember from Acts and the epistles that the Apostles were adept at gathering tithes and alms for the poor and for the growth of the Church; some monies were even sent to the incipient Church leadership in Jerusalem!

  49. CatholicMD says:

    God bless the faithful bishops of Nigeria! My prediction for the upcoming synod on the family is that a civil war is going to break out between the German and other liberal Western bishops and the faithful bishops of Africa. I’ve seen this play out as a former Episcopalian with the African Anglican bishops. Hopefully the synod proves to be a Humana Vitae moment for Pope Francis.

  50. Priam1184 says:

    Excellent historical analysis robtbrown. Thanks.

  51. Priam1184 says:

    @guans The Anima Christi predates St. Ignatius of Loyola by a couple of hundred years. Pope John XXII indulgenced it in 1330 according to the Catholic Encyclopedia. With apolologies to Fr. Z here is the link: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01515a.htm

  52. kimberley jean says:

    I’m sick of the class warfare.

  53. Mike says:

    frjim4321 says:

    Seems like a very nice group of faithful Catholics but almost exclusively quite affluent.

    Rich people need our prayers, and support. If we just take all their stuff, in aggressive practice of the “spirit of Vatican II” which seems to have updated envy from a cardinal sin to a cardinal virtue, we can’t hit ’em up for a check when the roof leaks or the furnace breaks down.

    (Disclaimer: I own a business, a successful consultancy, but it is nowhere near big enough or “affluent” enough for me to be a member of Legatus.)

  54. Marion Ancilla Mariae says:

    Mike, since you and I both own small businesses – well, mine would be considered a “micro-mini” business – and are not affluent enough or successful enough to join Legatus, I propose putting together a group of other Catholics of modest means to form our own group, . . . and we can call ours Legatulus!

  55. Margaret says:

    All the prayers mentioned here– St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Bonaventure, Canticle of the Three Children, Anima Christi, etc. etc.– and many more are available for free, in English and Latin, in the Laudate app for Android phones. It’s a very nice resource, with a huge treasury of prayers, complete NAB and Douay-Rheims, cute little confession guide all resident on the phone. There are more hot-linked components like the Catechism and LOTH which require internet access, but the hot links make it more navigable from a little screen. And did I mention FREE? (No idea if it’s also on iPhones…)

    And actually, looking through the settings tab further, besides the permanent availability of the prayers in Latin, English is only one of fourteen vernacular language choices.

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