Prof. Thomas Stark interviews His Eminence Raymond Card. Burke on ‘Amoris laetitia’

Prof. Thomas Stark interviews His Eminence Raymond Card. Burke on Amoris laetitia.


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  1. greenlight says:

    Watching this, he reminds me of nothing so much as a janitor trying to mop up a very disgusting mess.

  2. JARay says:

    Right at the outset Cardinal Burke says that the Pope is using the personal pronoun “I” and hence he is simply offering a personal opinion and so it is not Magisterial. The Cardinal points out that he, himself, has opinions, but that his opinions are not Magisterial. It is the same with the Pope. His opinions are not Magisterial. This is the stance that Cardinal Burke took right at the outset when he dismissed Amoris Laetitia as not being a Magisterial pronouncement.

  3. rmichaelj says:

    A very lonely janitor, wondering where all the other janitors went to (notable exceptions being Schneider and Fellay).

  4. Maltese says:

    Our current President and current Pope remind me of this quote, by CS Lewis:

    “We all want progress, but if you’re on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.”

    Why is changing Church doctrine so much a part of our current Pope’s praxis? (Of course, I admire our Pope in many ways, and he can’t change Church dogma, but he really is a post-Vatican II Jesuit in every way–that order after Ignatius, btw., hasn’t generated many saints.) But if you look at the History of the Popes, by my friend (who I was lucky enough to go on a drinking tour of Los Angeles with,) Charles Coulombe, you realize that Popes are as fallible as any of us. So, raise a toast to Pope Francis! Admire his good qualities, and leave the rest to waste!

  5. Maltese says:

    Here’s the problem: it’s always fun to be popular and hip. But Christ wasn’t popular or “hip” (although, I would argue he was the “hippest” dude in history, if we mean that as a pronoun meaning “newest”!).

    Say the Church didn’t exist in the world. We would have dour, sad, scary, and really freaky stuff going on. The Church is the bulwark of the civilized world. Let the Galileo and Tomás de Torquemada-affair people bask in their few examples of Catholic wrong-doing. If you really think about it, the greatest philosophers, greatest astronomers, greatest artists, and greatest writers have all been Catholic (I could give you examples of each, but don’t have time: but remember it was a Catholic who postulated the Big Bang theory, remember.)

    Anywhere you go in the world, the greatest cities have a Catholic praxis. In America, in particular, the cities I enjoy living in or visiting most are Santa Fe, NM, New Orleans, LA, San Francisco, CA, and Los Angeles, CA. Of course liberals have overtaken them; but, they overtook them for a reason: they have a resonating Catholicity to them, underneath the surface. In a major city like Los Angeles, you have equal parts good and evil: if you want to find one or the other, you will find it in abundance. My sister and a good friend live in LA, and there is plenty of good and evil to go around!

    This is only my own limited understanding of the world; the Pope has a whole world to think about. I’ve been in every Country in the European Union (except Poland and Romania) , North Africa, the Caribbean (three different places), Mexico, and in almost every state in the US. Although I haven’t been to South America, though I dated a woman from Brazil for some time.

    My point is this: if I can see–after my travels through the world–that Amoris laetitia is probably going to promote a departure from doctrine (and I’m a former attorney, and we argue endlessly over words and their meaning to the minutiae,) why was it written, and who promulgated it? The Devil is in the details, and like Vatican II, you can have 500 words extolling things of the faith, but it only takes–literally–a few words to throw things off balance. That is why Iota Unum is so important. Every single word has hugely significant meaning.

  6. kurtmasur says:

    @greenlight: Indeed a very disgusting mess! I thank the Lord that we still have people like Card. Burke in the Church. Card. Burke would definitely bring a much needed excellent breath of fresh air into the Church if he were to become a future Successor of Peter.

  7. MissBee says:


    “There aren’t any new possibilities in the sense that the teaching of Christ could change. It’s quite clear that marriage is indissoluble, and therefore When we talk about new possibilities for us, it’s new possibilities about being faithful to that teaching, not new possibilities of changing that teaching”

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