Your Sunday Sermon Notes and a ‘Laetare’ Sunday ROSE POLL

17_03_26_Laetare_SMPB_01Was there a good point in the sermon you heard at the Mass to fulfill your Sunday obligation?  Let us know.

For my part, for the TLM this morning, I spoke of the flow of Lent, from Pre-Lent to the Vigil and about how the Church liturgically dies.    For the Novus Ordo, I reviewed necessary elements for making a good confession, including confession of all mortal sins in number and kind and therefore the need to make a daily examination of conscience.  I spoke also about a firm purpose of amendment.  Thereupon, a gave some suggestions for how to establish good habits (making an examination of conscience) and breaking bad habits (willingness to suffer and having a plan for doing something else).

And now, since this is Laetare Sunday, what vestments did you who belong to the Roman Rite see for Mass?  Let’s have a POLL.  Anyone can vote but you have to be registered and approved to use the combox.  For more on the liturgical color rosacea, HERE

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  1. JMGcork says:

    I assisted at a Missa Cantata today. Rose vestments for Mass but unfortunately no rose cope for the Asperges. Had to stick with the violet one.

  2. John Grammaticus says:

    A very good talk comparing lent to a mountain climb, and that Laetare Sunday is a glimpse at the mountaintop. A exhortation to persevere. In addition he warned against taking our baptism for granted now that we are the children of the promise and not of nature.

  3. Stunning Rose vestments at the Ordinariate Mass today including a gorgeous rose cope. Gorgeous. Have to hand it to the priests of the Ordinariate… they love beautiful vestments which go beautifully with their lovely Mass…
    photos on my twitterfeed @AlwaysCatholic today :)

  4. jaykay says:

    NO; Rose (quite new) chasuble, violet dalmatic. We don’t have a rose dalmatic – and never did, I believe, back illis in diebus.

  5. GrumpyYoungMan says:

    TLM, Rose. Father spoke about the history of the Stations of the Cross devotion. Very interesting and informative.

  6. Deo Credo says:

    TLM. Solemn high mass with all three in rose. Excell

  7. Elizabeth D says:

    Reddish purple. I was a little sad because I do associate rose with joy. My church does not have a rose chasuble?! The pastor is not the kind of priest who sees every item of optional liturgical gear or having fancy things as important–which Pope Francis might praise. Usually the bishop celebrates Gaudete Sunday Mass and brings his own rose vestments. According to the diocesan newspaper he is hanging out with the FSSP to make subdeacons. Therefore the FSSP and their subdeacons are the reason why we had violet/purple vestments for Gaudete Sunday. Well I will not begrudge them their joy. I would buy a chasuble to donate so we can have joy on the couple of Sundays per year when we are supposed to have mid penitential season joy but I do not have that kind of money to buy anything nice. I would also want to buy dalmatics in all colors so the deacon could always wear one.

  8. Elizabeth D says:

    Sorry, I think it is Laetare Sunday. Confused by joy.

  9. ce lathrop says:

    Blue, for the Leave-taking of the Annunciation. Liturgy of Saint Basil.

  10. Wiktor says:

    In the sermon father refuted the idea of “non-miraculous miracles”, i.e. the idea that the multiplication of the loaves is to be understood in some symbolical sense instead of literal, physical, miracle.

  11. arga says:

    Like Fr. Z, our TLM priest sermonized on the sacrament of confession, starting off with “purpose of amendment” as a serious part of confession; expressed astonishment at number of penitents who don’t know that mortal sin bars them from communion.

  12. joekstl says:

    Our Gospel reading was the story of the blind man from the Gospel according to John. Our pastor emphasized a theme of the Gospel: Jesus the light – seeing versus darkness/blindness. The local people saw a beggar – Jesus sees him as a human being in need of help. The Pharisees can’t see Jesus for who he is. So – our pastor asked how we see people: the homeless (which is a big issue in our county as we have no homeless shelter – but do have a shelter for cats and dogs); or refugees. Do we see them as “beggars” or Christ among us? He related this “seeing” to the first reading about the anointing of David – God does not see as man sees.

    During the Lenten season we always use the Confiteor for our Penitential Rite – and he emphasized that we confess to what we have done and what we have failed to do. So have we failed to work for the homeless. and refugees.

    Lastly, he mentioned the meaning of” Siloam” – the pool which means” sent.” So at the “ite missa est” he said we are sent to do the work of the Gospel – feed the hungry, etc.

    A most powerful homily!!

  13. iPadre says:

    I wore rose at both OF and EF Masses.

    Talked about Rose Sunday – the Golden Rose, mid point of Lent, a small reprieve, but if our Lenten practices have faded, it’s time to regroup if we have slackened and give a new push forward as we daw near to the celebration of Our Lord’s resurrection.

  14. Discerning Altar Boy says:

    In a wonderful sermon preached by the iPadre, we were encouraged to hold fast to our Lenten discipline. We are given Laetare Sunday as a day to regroup and recommit ourselves in joyful expectation of Easter.

  15. Rose vestments, although we dont have a Rose Dalmatic, so deacon wore purple.

    My homily was the next in a Lenten series on the sacrament of penance, working from a book, ‘The Seven Secrets of Confession.’ My sermon today was titled, “Confession takes you to the Cross, and then to Heaven.”

  16. Felipe says:

    Me and my wife went to visit Fr Keyes in Santa Rosa, CA. TLM – Rose vestments. First extraordinary form Mass at their new/rescued altar which came from a parish back east that was closing down. He said we should know that the miracles performed by Jesus were REAL. They did not open up their backpacks and share their food. He sighted 2 early church fathers and talked about the rose colored vestments. It was nice seeing the depiction of St Phillip (Felipe in Spanish) with the loaves in the stained glass window.

  17. Imrahil says:

    A somewhat more reddish, pinkish sort of violet with a lot of golden embroidery, different from the usual violet used. I guess that counts as “rose”.

    “White”, i. e. the pure alb (and I guess a rose stole) for the Asperges. Seems we don’t have a rose cope; the “white” in any case, where otherwise copes are used, gave an interesting effect.

    The Sermon was on how Laetare is spiritually (not so much an exception in Lent but – explanatory note) a symbol of Lent as a whole.

  18. Facta Non Verba says:

    Violet for both the priest and deacon. I asked the deacon if they needed rose vestments, and he confirmed so. I told them to order a set for the priest and deacon and to send me the bill. They know me well enough to know that I am serious. I do hope they follow through.

  19. JonPatrick says:

    We rejoice (laetere) because Easter is almost here and because of Jesus who opened the gates of Heaven for us and who feeds us. The feeding of the 5000 – the disciples could not come up with enough bread on their own to feed the people, only Jesus could. We cannot satisfy through our own efforts, only Jesus can satisfy what we really need. The miracle is a sign of what is to come (the Eucharist).

    I wasn’t paying attention to the vestment colors but I think it was purple, because I probably would have noticed if it was rose. Funny because we have had rose in the past including last year’s Gaudete Sunday.

  20. KateD says:

    We attended a High Mass with incense and the homily was wonderful, about the Gospel reading, and the priest was joyful and reverent and the music, chant and organ, were so beautiful…it all served to reinforce the fact that we were in the presence of the heavenly court where Jesus’ sacrifice to God the Father was being re-presented and consequently my focus was so intently on praying, I don’t even remember what color the priest was wearing….but I’d lay good money on the fact it was what ever color it was supposed to be….

    If the Mass provides spiritual nourishment, yesterday was a feast…absolutely glorious! This is the way Mass was meant to be.

    And it’s not about some stiff, psychological need for rules or structure, but rather after milenia, the Church had perfected the means by which the soul is elevated to participate most fully and appropriately in the Mass….so that we might become saints and so we could carry Christ back into the world with us and be able to bite our lip a little longer when confronted with spiritual obstacles, such as LA traffic…If we could get that Mass where I live…Ouf! Our feet would never touch the ground…Catholic churches would be busting at the seams and over flowing if this was the Mass regularly offered on Sunday.

    How we’ve been robbed!

  21. frjim4321 says:

    Purple chasuble.

    Homily on healing spiritual blindness and ferverino for the annual communal penance service.

    “Rejoice Sunday:” Joy in more than mere happiness, it is the quality of know that one is living her or his life in accord with God’s plan.

  22. CradleRevert says:

    Our parish has a set of rose vestments, but unfortunately not a Solemn set. Since we had a Solemn High Mass, they used the violet set.

  23. Ellen says:

    My family donated a set of rose vestments in honor of my parents. This year we saw them on Gaudete and Laetare Sundays. They are quite beautiful.

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  24. Nightcrawler says:

    My priest wore a rose stole with his alb. He doesn’t wear vestments. We have asked him about this and he informed us he doesn’t have to wear vestments for mass. Fresh out of seminary too.

  25. Imrahil says:

    We don’t have a rose dalmatic – and never did, I believe, back illis in diebus.

    Which makes somewhat sense, back in illis diebus, as the “Laetare laxing” of Lenten practice would be in this case that the dalmatic would be at all; it wasn’t on the other days of Lent and I believe Advent.

  26. majuscule says:

    I just happened to be at three Masses. The first two–Novus Ordo, the same priest, different churches–I saw two shades of violet. (I was making an announcement at the end of Mass at the first one so I got there near the end of the homily.) The other Mass was a TLM–Missa Cantata. Now that’s a different story. The chausable was a beautiful rose Roman style with gold trim.

    The two Novus Ordo Masses were in my parish, which doesn’t own a set of rose vestments, so I wasn’t surprised. However another priest in the parish has borrowed rose vestments in the past and I’m sure he did again this year.

    Another couple of notes–although we had been instructed not to cover our statues until Passion Sunday, they were covered at the other parish church (where I was making the announcement). Also, it had been suggested that, because it was Laetare Sunday, we might place a small bouquet of rose colored roses on the altar on each side of the tabernacle, which we did in both churches.

    In the poll I voted for rose vestments because there was no option for those oddballs who attended more than one Mass. :)

  27. Hans says:

    I have a rose dalmatic (a nice but inexpensive Italian set that I got on sale, even) and a separate rose stole (that was a gift), but our priest doesn’t have a set and has said he doesn’t look good in “pink”. Though perhaps he would wear it if someone (especially if it’s not me) got him a rose chasuble; hmmm.

    But at least the holy water is back in the fonts. Those who wanted them dry (mostly the new ‘environment’ committee and some of the rectory staff — including the wife of my confrère) claimed that they have always been dry (which they may well believe) during Lent, but I pointed out that if they had been dry last year, I would have said something then also, and I didn’t have to. So he said he would ask our episcopal vicar and let him decide; they were full again this past Sunday! I haven’t said anything, not wanting to appear to gloat.

    [In regard to removal of Holy Water for all of Lent, the Holy See’s Congregation for Divine Worship clarified in 2003 (Prot. No. 569/00/L) that the removal of Holy Water for all of Lent is not permitted. They refer to the wrong-headed practice as a praeter legem innovation which is “contrary to a balanced understanding of the season of Lent.” Moreover, “The ‘fast’ and ‘abstinence’ which the faithful embrace in this season does not extend to abstaining from the sacraments or sacramentals of the Church.”]

  28. Hans says:

    Nightcrawler: What the GIRM says is

    337. The vestment proper to the Priest Celebrant at Mass and during other sacred actions directly connected with Mass is the chasuble worn, unless otherwise indicated, over the alb and stole.

  29. Titus says:

    I did not hear Mass said by iPadre, but perhaps our priest listens to his podcast, because I heard a homily on the same topics.

    We had rose for Mass, but it’s a borrowed chasuble (albeit a very nice antique one) and we don’t have a rose cope, so Father had to wear the purple one for the asperges. There are nine yards of rose-colored silk on my sideboard, however, waiting to be dropped off at Gammarelli’s during Holy Week. We should be in business by Gaudete Sunday.

  30. Titus says:

    Nightcrawler: What the GIRM says is

    337. The vestment proper to the Priest Celebrant at Mass and during other sacred actions directly connected with Mass is the chasuble worn, unless otherwise indicated, over the alb and stole.

    I suppose it is conceivable that Nightcrawler’s priest has some sort of dispensation, either as a result of location or personal disability. Such things have been known to happen.

    Or he could just be a loon. There’s not enough information to know.

  31. Adam Welp says:

    Voted rose, but it was really a rose chasuble with a violet overlay stole.

  32. andia says:

    Rose Chasuable with violet lining. It was..interesting.

  33. Hans says:

    Oui, mon père, je le sais.

  34. iPadre says:

    Wow! Someone is listening!!!

    Just not sure who “Discerning Altar Boy” is.

    [Sorry… could you repeat that?   o{];¬)   ]

  35. Nightcrawler says:

    No disability or dispensation. We purchased all new vestments about three years ago. His stoles are very special to him. That is what he told us. Along with he doesn’t have to wear vestments.

  36. NancyP says:

    Rose vestments for our celebrant and a rose dalmatic for our deacon.

    Father gave an excellent homily on spiritual blindness and our need to be open to God’s healing in our lives. We can experience God’s healing in the confessional, first and foremost. If we behave like the Pharisees, we will not be able to see how God extends His mercy to us and we will be blind to His healing touch in our lives.

    I was also touched by one of the hymns, which I have not heard at Mass since I was very young. (“At That First Eucharist”) Praying for a healing of divisions within the Church and for a return of “wand’rers” to the Faith through this lovely hymn brought tears to my eyes.

  37. J Kusske says:

    No rose vestments in Beijing I’m afraid–made it to evening Chinese mass at the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception or the South Church, the one Matteo Ricci founded, and it was all violet. The English mass community here never has rose vestments either. The Russians of course don’t do rose, but I’m looking forward to red at Pascha liturgy!

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