Again, priest teaches his flock about liturgy – this guy gets it! (Part II)

Posted on 21 January 2009 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

At St. Mary’s in Norwalk, CT, Fr. Greg J. Markey is instructing his flock on liturgical matters.

I have written about this fellow before.  He "gets it".

We saw Part I the other day.

Let’s have a look at Part I (of two) with my emphases and comments.

January 25, 2009           

             Part II: Yet beyond the lack of fidelity to the Vatican II liturgical norms there is still a deeper question which has only now begun to be addressed by Pope Benedict XVI: whether the liturgical reform of the Second Vatican Council that we have today was what the Fathers of the Council intended. [This is a good point.  And it is nearly a forbidden question in many circles.  The answer is, of course, "NO! What we got is nothing like what they asked for."]  Addressing the discontinuity between the Council’s idea of liturgical renewal and the final form of the Vatican II Mass, the then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger wrote: “(I)n the place of liturgy as the fruit of development came fabricated liturgy.  We abandoned the organic, living process of growth and development over centuries, and replaced it –as in a manufacturing process– with a fabrication, a banal on-the-spot product.”

            For example, today much of what Catholics think is the Second Vatican Council liturgical reform did not in fact come from the Council: “To the ordinary churchgoer,” wrote Cardinal Ratzinger, “the two most obvious effects of the liturgical reform of the Second Vatican Council seem to be the disappearance of Latin and [even more damaging] the turning of the altars towards the people.  Those who read the relevant texts will be astonished to learn that neither is in fact found in the decrees of the Council.”   There is a long list of other changes as well that are simply not in the Vatican II documents either: removing altar rails, Communion in the hand, altar girls, etc.  

             For this reason Pope Benedict XVI’s decision to liberalize the Traditional Latin Mass (Extraordinary Form) is essential to reconnecting us with our lost tradition, and understanding what authentic worship of God is all about.  This Mass was the Mass of our forefathers, of countless saints, and which in its essence dates back to the earliest Church.  [YES!]

            Inspired by the Holy Father, I began the Extraordinary Form at the parish every Sunday over a year ago.  As your Pastor I wish more people in the parish would understand that we have been given a treasure here at St. Mary’s with this Extraordinary Form, and while the Mass is definitely growing, it is still a disappointment that more people do not recognize what this is all about.   [Sadly the case in so many places.  It is hard to draw people upwards into something more challenging.]

            If we look at the full array of Masses here at St. Mary’s, we see that there is a progressive solemnity to each of the liturgies on Sunday, with the 9:30 am Extraordinary Form representing the fullness of our liturgical patrimony.  [That is a good idea.  It is like… dare I say it… growing up in their Sunday worship.] The Ordinary Form at 4:00 pm, 7:00 pm, and the 8:00 am are done reverently, and has the fixed parts of the Mass (Kyrie, Sanctus, Agnus Dei…) sung in Latin during Advent and Lent.  The Spanish 1:15 Mass has a beautiful choir which sings the Latin Mass parts all year round.  The 11:30 am Ordinary Form of the Mass has the largest volunteer choir, with the Gloria, Credo, and Pater chanted in Latin every Sunday, and at least once a month the entire Mass is done in Latin, ad orientem (facing East).  Finally, once again as the fullness of our liturgical patrimony, we have the Solemn High Extraordinary Form of the Mass, with a professional schola singing the Mass parts in Gregorian chant and renaissance polyphony, and a full set of servers.  [If Fr. Markey needs another assistant….]

            I encourage people to come and attend the 9:30 am Extraordinary Form so that they will experience what is in my opinion is the fullness of Catholic worship, and which communicates the Sacred to a higher degree than the other forms.  The Ordinary Mass is a simpler version of this more ancient form, yet points to this fuller expression of worship.  [I have written many times about the TLM being the "grown-up" Mass.  More and more I think this is true.]

            I ask you to attend a few times because it sometimes takes a little while to appreciate its subtly, beauty and order.  Even if you prefer the Ordinary Form of the Mass, your attendance at the Extraordinary Form will at least help you understand our history and the Ordinary Form better.

            With all of the liturgical growth here at the parish over the past five years I hope that these two Pastor’s columns would help people to understand the big picture of why I am making these decisions.  It is not my own personal whim which motivates me, but my desire to have our parish think and worship with the mind and heart of the Church.

            Furthermore I think it more than a coincidence that the crisis in the liturgy over the past forty years coincided with so many other ecclesial crises:  [as our worship goes… so goes the rest of our Catholic lives.  Change our prayer, you change our belief and who we think we are before God.] the radical decline in priestly and religious vocations, the shrinking and closing of Catholic schools, the breakdown of the family and the growth of the culture of death, the painful clergy scandals, etc.   The Mass is the heart and source of our faith.  If is the Mass is deformed and weak, then so is the rest of the body. [yes] As Pope Benedict XVI has written, “I am convinced that the crisis in the Church that we are experiencing today is, to a large extent, due to the disintegration of the liturgy.” [Tell it, Reverend!]

            In conclusion, nothing will affect a renewal in the Church and in the culture more than a renewal in the liturgy.   The Mass not only expresses what we believe, it shapes what we believe.  Come, open yourself to what the Holy Spirit is doing at this point in history, and worship our Lord in the coming year in spirit and truth.

Sincerely in Christ,

Fr. Greg J. Markey
Pastor

Again, WDTPRS praises Fr. Markey for his sound insights and bold work.

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QUAERITUR: Divided Sanctus and Benedictus

Posted on 20 January 2009 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

From a reader:

I attended the local EF Mass …  It was as usual, the most beautiful thing this side of heaven.  I have one question however on a point I had not witnessed before.  During the chanting of the Sanctus Sanctus Sanctus, the schola did not finish up with the Benedictus qui Venit in Nomini Domini.  I thought it odd, but paid not further attention as the priest proceeded with the Canon.  During the consecration however, the schola chanted the Benedictus.  Is this proper or traditional? I have not heard this done before.

 

Yes, this is proper.  It is generally not done in the newer form, the Novus Ordo, but it has always been proper and traditional in the older form. 

You will find that in orchestral and polyphonic settings for Holy Mass through the centuries, the Sanctus and the Benedictus are divided.  The Benedictus would continue after the consecration and/or the "Elevation Sonata" that might be played.

These days it is said that in the newer form there should be no music during the recitation of the Eucharistic Prayer.  Of course the Eucharistic Prayer in the newer form is to be spoken aloud now. 

This is all going to be rethought… and it must be rethought.  As a matter of fact, His Holiness Pope Benedict in his writings before being elevated to the See of Peter, suggested that the silent Canon would be a good thing.

I agree.  I think we need both the silent Canon and the reclamation of our musical heritage which includes, of course, settings of Mass that have a divided Sanctus and Benedictus.

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Archbp. Carroll’s “Prayer for Government”

Posted on 19 January 2009 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

The following prayer was composed by John Carroll, Archbishop of Baltimore, in 1791. He was the first bishop appointed for the United States in 1789 by Pope Pius VI. He was made the first archbishop when his see of Baltimore was elevated to the status of an archdiocese.

John was a cousin of Charles Carroll of Maryland, a signer of the Declaration of Independence.

Americans among the readership might print it and bring it to your parish priests and ask them to use it after Mass, perhaps on Inauguration Day.

This needs no translation for Catholics who love their country!

PRAYER FOR GOVERNMENT We pray, Thee O Almighty and Eternal God! Who through Jesus Christ hast revealed Thy glory to all nations, to preserve the works of Thy mercy, that Thy Church, being spread through the whole world, may continue with unchanging faith in the confession of Thy Name. We pray Thee, who alone art good and holy, to endow with heavenly knowledge, sincere zeal, and sanctity of life, our chief bishop, Pope N., the Vicar of Our Lord Jesus Christ, in the government of his Church; our own bishop, N., all other bishops, prelates, and pastors of the Church; and especially those who are appointed to exercise amongst us the functions of the holy ministry, and conduct Thy people into the ways of salvation. We pray Thee O God of might, wisdom, and justice! Through whom authority is rightly administered, laws are enacted, and judgment decreed, assist with Thy Holy Spirit of counsel and fortitude the President of these United States, that his administration may be conducted in righteousness, and be eminently useful to Thy people over whom he presides; by encouraging due respect for virtue and religion; by a faithful execution of the laws in justice and mercy; and by restraining vice and immorality. Let the light of Thy divine wisdom direct the deliberations of Congress, and shine forth in all the proceedings and laws framed for our rule and government, so that they may tend to the preservation of peace, the promotion of national happiness, the increase of industry, sobriety, and useful knowledge; and may perpetuate to us the blessing of equal liberty. We pray for his excellency, the governor of this state , for the members of the assembly, for all judges, magistrates, and other officers who are appointed to guard our political welfare, that they may be enabled, by Thy powerful protection, to discharge the duties of their respective stations with honesty and ability. We recommend likewise, to Thy unbounded mercy, all our brethren and fellow citizens throughout the United States, that they may be blessed in the knowledge and sanctified in the observance of Thy most holy law; that they may be preserved in union, and in that peace which the world cannot give; and after enjoying the blessings of this life, be admitted to those which are eternal. Finally, we pray to Thee, O Lord of mercy, to remember the souls of Thy servants departed who are gone before us with the sign of faith and repose in the sleep of peace; the souls of our parents, relatives, and friends; of those who, when living, were members of this congregation, and particularly of such as are lately deceased; of all benefactors who, by their donations or legacies to this Church, witnessed their zeal for the decency of divine worship and proved their claim to our grateful and charitable remembrance. To these, O Lord, and to all that rest in Christ, grant, we beseech Thee, a place of refreshment, light, and everlasting peace, through the same Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Savior. Amen.

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A sad sight

Posted on 19 January 2009 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Sniff…

Many thanks to FGZ for this wonderful gift from the wishlist. 

I enjoyed every drop.

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“Who am I?”

Posted on 19 January 2009 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Any ideas about who this saint is?

This is not an allegorical figure.  There is a halo and no other allegorical depictions in the place.

Click for larger images.

Readers can send in their photos and we can do this more often.

But only hard ones, please!  Puzzlers.  Tough to identify.

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Again, priest teaches his flock about liturgy – this guy gets it! (Part I)

Posted on 19 January 2009 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

At St. Mary’s in Norwalk, CT, Fr. Greg J. Markey is instructing his flock on liturgical matters.

I have written about this fellow before.  He "gets it".

Let’s have a look at Part I (of two) with my emphases and comments.

January 18, 2009

           Part I: These past two Sundays I have dedicated my Pastor’s Column to New Year Resolutions.  First I recommended that following Pope Benedict XVI’s lead, people no longer receive Holy Communion in the hand, and start receiving on the tongue. [Three cheers!]  Secondly I recommended that people start correcting themselves when they use the Lord’s name in vain.  [Very good!  The two are connected.  Apparently this priest takes the cura animarum seriously.] This week I recommend that everyone in the parish make it a point to attend the 9:30 am Extraordinary Form of the Mass at least a few times during the coming year.   [Yes.  The EF is for everyone and a parish shouldn’t be divided into two ghettoes.]

            To begin to understand why, perhaps it is best to ask a question: How many Catholics today even realize that there is a liturgical crisis currently going on in the Church?  [!] Many parishes during the post-Vatican II era fell into irregular liturgical practices to such an extent that Pope John Paul II needed to commission a juridical document in 2004 for the universal Church in order to address the issue: “It is not possible to be silent about the abuses, even quite grave ones, against the nature of the liturgy and the sacraments as well as the tradition and authority of the Church, which in our day not infrequently plague liturgical celebrations in one ecclesial environment or another.  In some places the perpetuation of liturgical abuses has become habitual” (Redemptionis Sacramentum, 4).  [After a while people think the abuses are the norms and that perfectly legitimate elements of the Roman Rite are abuses!]

            Habitual abuse means that neither the clergy nor the laity at Mass even realizes that the Sacred Mass, that which offers true worship to God and forms Catholic identity like no other act, is being deformed.  Such ignorance of the nature of the liturgy prompted Pope Benedict XVI, then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, to write in 2000: “Liturgical education today, of both priests and laity, is deficient to a deplorable extent.  Much remains to be done here.”  Sadly these attempts by Rome to correct liturgical abuse seem to have been virtually ignored by much of the Church at the parish level.   [Apparently not in Norwalk!  I wonder what Fr. Markey’s neighboring priests think about this?]

             Since I arrived here at St. Mary Church in 2003 I have tried to address these issues and as everyone knows, I have made the renewal of the liturgy a priority for the parish.  [As worhsip goes, so goes the parish.] The first thing I did as pastor was to simply bring St. Mary Church into conformity with the norms of the Church.  In the following years, I introduced singing the Latin Mass parts into all of the Masses, depending on the Mass and the occasion, as the documents require: “…steps should be taken so that the faithful may also be able to say or to sing together in Latin those parts of the Ordinary of the Mass which pertain to them.” (Sacrosanctum Concilium, 54).  [Excellent!  I almost never see a priest quote this!] Thirdly I reserved altar serving to boys alone in order promote vocations to the priesthood.  [Better and better.]  Finally, I have tried to imbue the liturgy here with a sacred spirit, avoiding profane greetings and actions, and I sought to build a sacred music program that would truly reflect our rich and ancient heritage.

            Most importantly, I have attempted to educate everyone about why I was doing all of this.  I have held numerous evening classes on the liturgy over the years, given homilies and written bulletin columns, trying to explain the proper spirit of the liturgy, and the authentic liturgical norms of the Church.

            Many Catholics, who have been rightly offended by the profanation of the sacred over the years, joyfully embraced these changes.  Some while not familiar with liturgical theology, have grown to understand better why a reverent liturgy is a more prayerful experience, and have also supported the changes. 

            Nonetheless the decisions I have made have been hard for others, and there have been not a few complaints.  I am sometimes saddened by the brazen words of people who come to me and criticize a St. Mary’s priest for actually prayerfully offering the Mass according to the liturgical norms.  [Isn’t that sadly so often the case?  They run at you with the invincible armor of ignorance and arrogance.] To me, the person’s comment is symbolic of the current liturgical crisis: many years of a more casual liturgy, and even habitual liturgical abuse, are hard to overcome.  Furthermore, the fact that so few parishes are implementing what the Magisterium is asking us to do makes the changes at St. Mary Church appear even more strange.
 
        [QUAERITUR]    Yet how many Catholics truly understand what the Mass is: the re-presentation of the Sacrifice of Christ’s crucifixion to God the Father? (Catechism #1367) Some people are still coming to Sunday Mass expecting liturgical abuses or to be entertained by the priest, rather than the real reason we come – to worship God, offering this perfect sacrifice according to the means handed down to us by Mother Church. 

            If only more people understood that novelties and priestly creativity in the Mass take away from this transcendent reality, [MYSTERY] and suddenly the sacred act is profaned, taking on the mere personality of the priest.  No!  As Padre Pio says, at Mass we are to humbly pray like St. John and Our Lady at the foot of the cross.  Would that more people’s comments to me about the Mass reflected this understanding.

Fr. Markey has his head screwed on in the right direction, that’s for sure.

How many of you are wondering what it would take to move to Norwalk?

More tomorrow.

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South Bend, IN: Bp. D’Arcy’s TLM

Posted on 19 January 2009 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

As you may remember, His Excellency Most Reverend John D’Arcy, Bishop of Fort Wayne – South Bend, was to celebrate a TLM, Pontifical Low Mass, at St. Patrick’s on Sunday.

Behold.

Brick by brick!

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Follow-up: Ad Orientem in Ann Arbor, MI – a priest reacts

Posted on 18 January 2009 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Subsequent to my posting about the initiative of Fr. Gerald Gawronski at Old St. Patrick’s in Ann Arbor, MI to "re-orient" his parish worship.

In their parish bulletin the decision to celebrate ad orientem versus was discussed.  In this, it seems parishioner, not the pastor, is commenting.

My emphases and comments.

    A few weeks back when Fr. Gerald announced that he was going to start saying the Sunday 10:30 Mass ad deum (a Latin reference to the priest saying Mass while facing the tabernacle), I was unsure if I would like it or not.  I am someone who has read a lot of liturgical books and knew what the General Instruction of the Roman Missal said about it – that is, I knew the “rules and regulations.”  But I was uncertain how I would actually like it once he started doing it and how it would effect my subjective experience of going to Mass.  Therefore I decided to try to put out of my mind all the theology I had studied and the books I’d read and just observe the Mass as somebody just walking in off the street, like a blank slate.
    Several things struck me about the experience: [1] first, I think there is a great aesthetic beauty when the priest says Mass facing the Lord.  Everything seemed to come together up at the altar: the beautiful backs of the vestments (which we so seldom see), the elevation of the host in front of the crucifix calling to mind the sacrifice of Christ, the unity of the priest, servers and entire congregation praying and orienting themselves towards the mystery being accomplished on the altar. [This is not an inconsiderable point.  And it opens up the deeper realization of just how well the Roman liturgy was worked out and, of course, based on experience of centuries.  Holy Church is the greatest expert on humanity there has ever been.  There is the "psychology" of the liturgical experience to consider also: what impact does it have?  The Roman liturgy is unsurpassed in this sphere.  When it is simply carried out, as the books indicate, it has tremendous power.]
    I thought the coalescence of all of these elements made the experience something transcendent – takes our attention from the face of the priest, and refocuses it on the sacrifice of Christ.  This reminds us that the Mass is not about the priest or his “performance,” but about Jesus’ offering of Himself to God the Father.  [The point of liturgy is to create an encounter with mystery.  If liturgy doesn’t do that, it has failed.]
    [2] Another beautiful theological truth came to me as I watched Fr. Gerald consecrate the host upon the altar, hidden from the view of the congregation, and then suddenly elevate it after the consecration.  The elevation reminded me of something wondrous, like the sun suddenly rising from behind the mountains and breaking forth upon the earth – just as Scripture refers to Christ as the Sun of Righteousness who rises up with healing in His wings (Mal. 4:2).  [Each Rite has the genius of denying to the participants some aspect of their senses.  At various times people may not see or may not hear certain things.  This is part of the "psychological" impact of the rite.  It supports that encounter with mystery precisely in those heightened moments of the sacred action as described by the writer.]
    The fact that the consecration happens out of view of the congregation and that we do not see the consecrated host until the elevation brought to mind a profound truth: though the suffering and death of Christ was public, it was also hidden.  Many people witnessed the physical death of Christ: the women, the disciple John, and the Roman centurions.  But in another sense, the true suffering of Christ was veiled. Nobody can possibly get a glimpse into the agony He endured from bearing the sins of the world, from enduring the total rejection of love and the desolation that came with it.  No human being can ever comprehend this suffering. [mystery]  This is what I got out of the Mass: the consecration happening in secret, veiled like the interior agony of Our Lord at His death, but then followed by the elevation before all the people, just as He was lifted up upon the cross for the whole world to gaze upon.
    In the end, I found that I lost nothing by experiencing Mass said with the priest facing the altar, but that my experience was greatly enriched.  It made Mass a more beautiful and edifying experience, and refocused my attention on the sacrifice being carried out on the altar, which in the end is what the whole liturgy is about: divine love offering itself for the salvation of mankind.  As far as I’m concerned, anything that can bring this home to me more firmly is a welcome addition.  I mentioned this because I think it is good for us all to discuss it.  I was talking with Fr. Gerald the other day in the Church and he asked me what I thought about the Mass being said this way, and this article is my response.  What do you think about it?   Please let Father Gerald know.  He is available to talk about it.

I would be interested to know the responses.

When Pope Benedict issued Summorum Pontificum I stated in the press and in interviews, in my articles and on this blog, that it would exert a "gravitational pull" on the way the Novus Ordo was celebrated.

I also said that Summorum Pontificum would affect the whole Church because it was such a gift to priests, especially to young priests.  As priests learned about the older forms – and in this case the older, or more tradtional celebration of Holy Mass ad orientem they would come to a new understanding of who they were at the altar and what they were doing.  In turn, this would impact an entire parish. 

Pope Benedict’s writings on celebration ad orientem are much better known now that he is Pope.  He has drawn attention to the proper orientation of Holy Mass through the so-called "Benedictine arrangement" of the altar, which is really just a transitional arrangement on the way to actually ad orientem worship.  Summorum Pontificum has also helped to reinforce the sense of continuity we must have in our worship when using the Novus Ordo.

This was not just a "brick by brick" event, I think.  It may have been "block by block" in Ann Arbor.
 

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QUAERITUR: covering relics when the Bl. Sacrament is exposed

Posted on 18 January 2009 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

From a reader:

Is it still rubrical for reliquaries to be covered when the Sanctissimum is exposed?  The old rubrics call for it, I believe.

 

So, this is about what to do in the newer, post-Conciliar forms of liturgical actions.

A long time ago the Congregation in Rome replied to a question.  When the new rubrics are directives are vague or absent, are we to do things as we have always done?  The Congregation replied that it was not to be assumed that we should in those cases do things the old way.

Well… then what in the name of all that is holy are we supposed to do?  Make it up as we go?

That seems, in fact, to have been their intention.   A close reading of the book which came out under the name of the former papal MC Archbp. Piero Marini reveals the laser beam focus the Bugnini and the Consilium had in stripping Rome of its centralized power to regulate liturgical matters and to place everything in the hands of local communites. 

The resulting discontinuity with the past and between local Churches has been devastating for our Catholic identity.

This is one reason why Pope Benedict has given us Summorum Pontificum whereby the older Missale Romanum and older Rituale and Pontificale can be used freely.  We must regain continuity and thus revitalize our Catholic identity.

Thus endeth the lesson.

To our question.

My understanding is that relics on the altar were in the old days and now when the older forms are used, to be covered in some way or removed in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament exposed.  In practice, they are sometimes exposed on the feast of the Saint whose relic is exposed for veneration.  This is probably not the case with relics of the True Cross, with documents, etc., but I am not sure.

My answer is that if it was done that way before, then do it that way now!  Did the Blessed Sacrament suddenly get demoted in dignity?

Also, when it comes to Exposition and Benediction if you follow the old way of doing things… which you are perfectly free to do know, then you have your answers to these questions. 

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QUAERITUR: follow-up to “kissing the ring of a bishop”

Posted on 18 January 2009 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Taking up issue of kissing a bishop’s ring, which we have look at before, this is from a reader:

I wanted to add a few comments about kissing a bishop’s ring outside of the liturgy. 

Technically there is no hard fast rule about genuflecting on the left knee, though this is often a pious custom.  During the liturgical actions, the genuflection to a prelate is always made on the right knee, because he has the fullness of Christ and is Christ at the altar. 

Also, one should only bow low to an auxiliary bishop when kissing his ring, because he is not the local ordinary. 

The confusing point about this is that traditionalists were so accustomed to genuflecting to Archbishop Lefebvre (who because of his personal rank one would genuflect to), that they continued the practice unaware with the four new bishops consecrated for the SSPX, who are actually only auxiliary bishops themselves.  Several SSPX priests attempted to correct this less-correct practice early on, but gave up after some time.  In any case, my 2 cents worth

 

Genuflecting on the left knee for a bishop: Yes, pious custom.  But it is a good one.  If one forgets and does so with his right knee, he won’t got to hell for it.

In liturgical actions, the genuflection is always on the right knee.  Good reminder!

One should bow, not genuflect, to an auxiliary.  Okay, he is not the ordinary.  Though I think one should always genuflect in the case of a Cardinal, anywhere, and probably a papal legate.

The "personal rank" of the late Archbishop Lefebvre and genuflecting: He wasn’t an ordinary anymore.  Why genuflect?

The four bishops consecrated by Archbishop Lefebvre are NOT auxiliary bishops.  They are not in union with the Holy See and therefore have no mandate which would indicate a genuflection.  However, I believe they often take to themselves trappings they would have had no right to use even in the old days.  Let’s us pray that their situation, and excommunications, can be taken care of soon, so that everything can be regularized.

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