QUAERITUR: SSPX wedding

From a reader:

My cousin is soon to be married in a SSPX church, a church which his family has been attending for twenty years, since he was in fourth grade. I read on a Catholic website that such a wedding was not valid or even licit, and that it was not a lawful marriage. Is this all true and correct? In their current situation, what would make such a marriage valid? Would the marriage be valid if it were held in a Catholic chapel and the ceremony performed by a priest who is diocesan approved?

Furthermore, does my family have the obligation to inform my relatives of the dangerous situation into which they are entering? They typically dismiss any opposition on their chosen way of life, and are quite adamant in believing that they are doing the right thing.

 

All sacraments must have proper matter and form in order to be valid.  For a marriage to be licit and valid, recognized by such as the Church, there must be a minister who witnesses the marriage for the Church as a part of the proper form.  The minister is generally a bishop, priest or deacon, but sometimes permission can be given to a lay person to witness the marriage.  But, the fact remains that for the marriage to be valid and licit there must be, as part of the form, an authorized witness.

SSPX priests are suspended a divinis from the moment of their ordination.  They do not have faculties from proper authorities to witness marriages, nor can those faculties be assumed. Thus, the marriages they witness are not licit or valid.  They would have to be validated by the Church.

However, they might be entering a lawful marriage, in the sense that the SSPX priest could very well be registered with the state and could legally witness a civil marriage.  As a matter of fact, some ex-priests do a rent-a-priest thing because they are still legally registered with the state.  Their marriages would be civilly legal, but not valid or licit – just as those of the SSPX priest.

Does "your family" have the obligation to inform your relatives?  I cannot answer that. You stated that they tend to ignore what they are told.  You said that your cousin has been attending this chapel for decades.   This is their world view.  They are rooted in it.

As a result, would having a talk with them do any good?  Would it do harm?  Would it drive them farther from your ability to influence them for the better?  Would they be easier or harder to help back into unity with the Church if you told them this or avoided their wedding? 

I cannot answer that for you.

In the meantime, I am sure that they are trying to do the right thing as they see it.  Their problem is a problem, but it is not necessarily one of faith or of commitment. 

Patience is very important.  Kindness is going to be the key.  So many families have been divided by this thing some people call a "schism"….  though we are avoiding that word these days.   Card. Castrillon, President of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, has been stating that the SSPX is not in schism and we have to go with that.

Try to find the way that will help to heal rather than making a point with the result of greater division.

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Signs of Pelagianism

My friend Fr. Ray Blake, the distinguished pastor of St. Mary Magdalene in Brighton has a good commentary on his blog today.

Pelagianism: I hate it, but it is very British. It is really a variant of Arianism which says God did not truly become Man, because Jesus was not truly God.

Pelagianism denies the action of Grace in the world, man is saved by his own goodness and efforts, rather than by God.

It is what we do, rather than what God does that matters, therefore the value of the sacraments is the psychological effect they have in our lives, rather than the direct intervention of God. It denies the power of Grace, of the role of the Blessed Virgin, of miracles, of the power of prayer: Pelagians above all would deny the role of the Holy Spirit, of His act of sanctification. Wherever there is attempt to place man at the heart of the faith, there we should expect to find Pelagianism.

Pelagianism expects Man to be strong rather God’s grace to be powerful. Catholicism, or as we could call it, mainstream Christianity, acknowledges mankind is weak and wholly dependant on those things God gives him.
Signs of the Pelagian:

The Church is a human construct, there is nothing or little of Grace about it.

The Liturgy and prayer is about how it makes us feel. Feelings rather than Grace are important.

Revelation is not a given, something given for today and all time, but something of that past that depends on our interpretation.

Ultimately Pelagianism says God is irrelevant to society and to the individual.

Pelagians tend to have a poor view of mankind, what see is what you get, because their is no room for Grace. It is also elitist, insofar as it values a human being by his goodness, his talents, his skills, his willpower.

Devotion to the Blessed Virgin is the destroyer Pelagianism, her whole being was about saying yes to Grace, and being the Mother of God she became the source of Grace. Her life shows the effects and power of Grace

Perhaps another sign of of the Pelagian is a defense of the lame-duck ICEL translations and resistance to the norms of Liturgiam authenticam..

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A purpose of Summorum Pontificum

There is a wonderful phrase in Latin…

Repetita iuvant.

The Pertinacious Papist has a good reminder:

Una Voce America’s Nota (No 39, Fall 2008) carries the following brief excerpt from the address of Pope Benedict XVI to the Bishops of France on the Anniversary of his Motu Proprio, Summorum Pontificum:

Sunday, September 14, 2008 It is never too often said that the priesthood is indispensable to the Church, in the very own interest of the lay faithful. Priests are a gift from God to the Church. Priests must never delegate to the faithful [those] functions which are related to their own mission. Dear Brothers in the episcopacy, I ask you to remain desirous to help your priests live in intimate union with Christ. Their spiritual life is the foundation of their apostolic life. You shall exhort them gently to daily prayer and to a dignified celebration of the Sacraments, particularly of the Eucharist and of Reconciliation, as Saint Francis de Sales did with his priests. Every priest should be able to feel glad to serve the Church. At the school of the Curé d’Ars, son of your land and patron of all preists of the world, do not cease to repeat that a man can do no greater deed than to give the Body and the Blood of Christ to the faithful, and to forgive sins….

Liturgical worship is the supreme expression of priestly and episcopal life, and also of catechetical teaching. Your mission of sanctification of the faithful people, dear Brothers, is indispensable for the growth of the Church. I was prompted to detail, in the motu proprio Summorum Pontificum, the conditions for the accomplishment of this mission, in that which relates to the possibility of using both the missal of Blessed John XXIII (1962) and that of Pope Paul VI (1970). The fruits of these new dispositions have already seen [the light of] day, and I hope that the indispensable pacification of the spirits is being accomplished, thank God.

I comprehend your difficulties, but I do not doubt that you will be able to reach, within reasonable time, solutions which are satisfactory to all, so that the seamless robe of Christ is not torn anymore. No one is excessive within the Church. [If you are within the Church you are, by definition, not excessive.] Everyone, without exception, must be able to feel at home, and never rejected. God, who loves all men and wills that no one be lost, entrusts us with this mission of Pastors, making us Shepherds of His sheep. We can only give Him thanks for the honor and confidence He places upon us. Let us endeavor to always be servants of unity.

[Acknowledgement: from "Strong words on Summorum Pontificum," Una Voce America – Nota (No. 39, Fall 2008), p. 2.]

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“In rigorous hours…”

 

With a tip of the biretta to the Laudator….

Robert Louis Stevenson, Winter:

    In rigorous hours, when down the iron lane
    The redbreast looks in vain
    For hips and haws,
    Lo, shining flowers upon my window-pane
    The silver pencil of the winter draws.

    When all the snowy hill
    And the bare woods are still;
    When snipes are silent in the frozen bogs,
    And all the garden garth is whelmed in mire,
    Lo, by the hearth, the laughter of the logs –
    More fair than roses, lo, the flowers of fire!

 

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QUAERITUR: servers sitting on steps during TLM

From a reader:

Have you any information regarding alter servers sitting on the steps of the sanctuary during a TLM Mass? This is occurring in a local parish during the times when the celebrant sits (while the choir sings the Creed and Gloria) and when he does the readings in English from the pulpit (even during the Gospel when the congregation is standing).

 

I know that servers sit on the steps at certain times during a Pontifical Mass, but I don’t know of other situations.

Perhaps the readers have seen this done.

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QUAERITUR: Rose vestments during the week after Gaudete Sunday?

Rosacea vestments during the week after the 3rd Sunday of Advent?

I reader sent me this:

In re: Rosacea, today I came across this interesting instruction, found in "Matters Liturgical" 9th edition (1956):
 
119. b. Rose-color vestments may also be worn, if the ferial Office is said on the Monday, Tuesday, or Thursday following the 3rd Sunday of Advent (S.R.C.: Nov. 7, 1935; see The Priest: April of 1952).
 
So Rose on Thursday it may be.  After all, I read it in a book.

 

This obviously applied to the TLM.

Anything more to be said about this?

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QUAERITUR: satifying 1 January Mass obligation

From a reader:

Per the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), January 1, the Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God, is a holy day of obligation — one of the few non-Sundays throughout the year when Catholics are required to attend Mass.

Since I follow the Traditional Calendar, along with my church, Old St. Mary’s here in Washington, we celebrated this feast, known as the Maternity of the Blessed Virgin Mary, on Saturday, October 11. 

Did I satisfy my obligation for attending Mass on the feast of Mary, in her role as Mother of God?

No.

Going to Mass on 11 October does not satisfy the obligation to go to Mass on 1 January.

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QUAERITUR: antiphons during midday hours in new office

From a seminarian:

I have a small but irksome question about the Divine Office.  In the "new" Breviary, during this time in Advent there is but one antiphon, but three Psalms for the recitation of one of the Midday hours.  Judging from the practice in the 1961 Breviary (or any other solid criteria), could you tell me whether the antiphon is to be repeated (once or more) in between each Psalm or whether it should be said only before (and after) the whole group of Psalms?  Finally, ought the Gloria Patri be said both between different Psalms (in the above case) and between Psalms that have been broken up (as often happens in the Office of Readings or sometimes in the other Hours)?

Thank you for your response and expertise.  With the promise of my prayers,

Thanks for the promise of prayers.  I need them and earnestly request them.

I think I’ll let you kind readers instruct the young fellow! 

What do you want to bet we’ll get different answers? 

o{]:¬)

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Ottawa’s Archbp. Prendergast lays down law on kneeling

From the Ottawa Citizen with my emphases and comments.

Ottawa archbishop lays down law on kneeling  [Huzzah!]
 
Jennifer Green
The Ottawa Citizen

Wednesday, December 03, 2008

Ottawa’s archbishop has ordered all Catholics to conform in how they kneel during mass, despite widespread grumbling that uniformity doesn’t equal sanctity, or even unity[Well… its a start.]

Archbishop Terrence Prendergast circulated a letter recently asking that everyone kneel for the entire Eucharistic prayer from "Holy, holy, holy" to the conclusion "Let us proclaim the mystery of faith" — about five minutes in all.  [It’s sooo haaarrrrrd!]

Currently, some congregations stand for most of the prayer, kneeling only as the priest prepares holy communion. Some stand for the whole thing; others kneel throughout.

Archbishop Prendergast said in his letter: "I have noted a wide range of practices … which present a lack of harmony in a matter where we should be united — the worship of God.

"I know that it may not be easy for some to accept. However, I am convinced its implementation will bring blessings to our archdiocese and I invite your co-operation with this directive."   [YES YES YES! This is an example of "Save The Liturgy – Save The World"!  Kneeling with have consequences.  I believe I wrote something about this yesterday, about genuflections before the Blessed Sacrament.  Kneeling, I think, makes a difference.]

In an interview later, he explained: "It’s a sign of reverence. People say, ‘I don’t like that. We are the people set free, we no longer have to kneel to God,’  [Oh… yes.  We are so grown up now!  Modern man is so very sophisticated.  We don’t have to kneel.] and I said, ‘Wait a minute, we do have to kneel to God. Christ knelt in the garden. People knelt before Jesus. Why can’t we do that for a few minutes at mass?’ "

One woman told him her husband might not come to church because of this. "She said, ‘we French Canadians have a bit of an inferiority complex. We don’t like people telling us what to do’."

He replied that, if the husband does come, he is free to stand through the prayer, but at the back of the church, where he won’t confuse everyone else.

It seems a small thing to ask the faithful to kneel during mass, but opponents say that’s just the point, especially since it is the archbishop’s first firm order since he arrived in this area last year.

"Is that all they have to think about?" asked former Ottawa councillor Toddy Kehoe, a parishioner at St. Joseph’s parish on Laurier Avenue East. "I don’t see the Catholic church as doing loving things. [Unreal.] I don’t see them as the caring community they should be. It isn’t whether you stand or kneel."

St. Joseph’s Rev. Richard Kelly declined to comment, as did a staff member who said in an e-mail: "It is hard to believe that a kneeler is such a big topic, and I wish I could say something about this piece of furniture that was meaningful, and about the prayer posture we have been requested to assume, but we are in difficult times and the focus for us as a parish is really how can we participate in the truth and reconciliation process with the aboriginal community of Canada."  [WHAT?]

Even Rev. William Burke, associate director of the national liturgy office at the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops, refused to comment for fear of fanning the controversy. Canadian bishops have already agreed to adopt this rule when the new missal, or Catholic mass book, is introduced in the near future.

Archbishop Prendergast acknowledged the underlying strains. "Every time you talk about liturgy, everything else going on in the church is reflected.[Exactly.]

Right now, the Catholic church is asking, "Is (the mass) our thing or is it God’s thing? There are certain tensions in the church about that[Well said.]

"After 40 years since the Vatican Council, we have gotten away from certain aspects of reverence; we’re trying to have more harmony and co-ordination. Harmony will help bolster a sense of divine worship, something that has slipped away.

"What has happened with the liturgy is that it is being asked to bear too many things." [It is at the heart of who we are.]

At one mass, people got so enthusiastic about greeting each other at the exchange of the peace that it took 45 minutes to get back to the pews and resume the service.

"That’s not what mass is about. It’s about worshipping God," Archbishop Prendergast said.

"At one time, nobody ever applauded. Now, they applaud for everything. It becomes more like a concert."

As to his authoritarian message, [perhaps "archiepiscopal" message] he said, "The bishop is the mentor of the liturgy, moderator, the one who calls the shots. I try to do it gently."

Nevertheless, to both clergy and congregants, he says, "I know you disagree, but I would like you to come along."

If someone comes to church and stubbornly stands, they won’t be asked to leave. But, the archbishop says, "You sort of wonder, what are they proving when there are two people standing in a church of 500 kneeling? Some people always have to let you know they’re right."

WDTPRS applauds Archbishop Prendergast.

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QUAERITUR: Not genuflecting during Novus Ordo Mass when crossing tabernacle

From a reader:

Could you comment on part of GIRM #274, specifically:
 
"If, however, the tabernacle with the Most Blessed Sacrament is present in the sanctuary, the priest, the deacon, and the other ministers genuflect when they approach the altar and when they deaprt from it, but not during the celebration of Mass itself."
 
I know that this is a change in the 2002 GIRM, and I really have a hard time with it.  I don’t mean to be scrupulous, but I always feel conflicted about it when serving.  If I don’t genuflect (as is what used to be done, even in the previous Novus Ordo GIRM), I feel as though I am being irreverent.  Christ is present in the tabernacle whether Mass is going on or not.  However, if I do genuflect, then I feel as though I am being disobedient.
 
What should be my attitude in approaching this directive?

There is a real tension here.

First, this idea that we don’t genuflect to the Blessed Sacrament when passing before it in the sanctuary during Mass stemmed from a desire to emphasize the sacred action going on at the moment.  As a result all sorts of changes were proposed, for example, only distributing Hosts consecrated at that Mass rather than any reserved from another Mass.

While I don’t have any problem with the idea that we should stress the sacred action hic et nunc, which is an important dimension of true active participation in a fuller sense, there are some practical considerations.

You know… sometimes these high falutin’ ideas don’t take into consideration what is a matter of common sense. 

The fact is that we do see the tabernacle there and we know that the Blessed Sacrament is in there and we actually believe that this is God present in our midst.

Ignoring any of these things, from some goal of stressing the here and now seems to me problematic.  What occurs to the one who watches people troop back and forth across the sanctuary and ignored the Blessed Sacrament is… well…. perhaps just shy of scandal.  I suspect that it would undermine the respect people have for the Eucharist if they constantly seen their Eucharistic Ministers and servers, et al., ignoring the Lord.

Funny thing: Liberals always ask you to ignore the evidence of your senses.

Anyway… while this is one of those rubrics I think could be happy broken without much fuss, it is nevertheless important that we who desire that the liturgy always and everywhere be celebrated according to the rules should ouselves obey them.

The texts of the translations are dreadful.  That doesn’t mean we should just change them according to our own lights.  I am right about what I write on the prayers in WDTPRS and the lame-duck ICEL texts are jsut wrong.  But I don’t therefore change the texts.  The same goes for rubrics.  The genuflection thing is in the Novus Ordo now.  So be it.   I admit that I forget from time to time, since I don’t say the Novus Ordo all that often these days and the genuflections are by now hard wired into me.

You know…. I know about all the fancy ideas about emphasizing the immediate sacred action blah blah blah but it is just wrong not to genuflect, isn’t it?

I think people are smart enough to handle the idea that we can reverence the Blessed Sacrament in a tabernacle by genuflecting and not lose track of the fact that they are at Mass and there will be a consecration.

After all, people have for centuries been able to see that during the distribution of Holy Communion Jesus is all over the place in the church. 

And yet their heads don’t, in fact, explode.

 

So, friend, I have a hard time with that rubric also.  I understand the idea behind it, but I think there are other important dimensions the egg-headed desk liturgists didn’t consider when they implemented their pet theories in the revised rubrics.

What should your attitude be?   At least strive for resigned obedience and the patience to be consistent with the others who are serving there.

Also, you might pray for a greater return of the older form of Holy Mass where these sllly things do not vex us so.

BTW… I think every faithful and reverent genuflection and act of faith helps to Save The World and everytime people ignore the Lord or are irreverent weakens us all. 

Remember: Pope Benedict hopes that there will be a positive influence of the one use on the other.  We might start by geting rid of these sorts of things so that the newer Mass will be in greater continuity with our tradition… in which we genuflect as we pass before the Blessed Sacrament wherever and whenever because we believe It is God, Our Lord Jesus Christ, sacramentally and truly with us.

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